/MeNa/

No Berbers, Jews and Turks Edition
تكلم بالعربية

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first for /tr/

Second for Jews :^)

şitty thread tbqfh

fourth for amazigh diaspora

ما شاء الله

The wrong side won the war

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Bad edition

Israel is more successful than your shitty Memestine

why do yemeni men walk hand in hand like this?

i'm not a muslim

Araps are gay
I'm not muslim I am a greek

:DDDDDD

I'm not muslim I am a greek

Je ne suis pas musulman

Saladin was not a kurd he was an arab

Goodnight /mena/
I am not muslim

you like israel?

@63515474
Je ne suis pas musulman

je nique ta mère et ta race fdp

allah protège la Turquie

bande pute

hope you get purged

and this is why we are hated

>

no more apologies!
They want to talk shit, let them get hit!
Takbir ya ikhwan!

and whats your solution exactly?

you cant defend whats happening or this religion any longer

the only solution is complete reformation, Islam in its current state is an absolute hellhole

>we need to reform
we literally don't stop listening to the memes
the only thing we need to do is be strong enough to enforce our values through media like the west is doing now

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strawpoll.me/11000503
Ghassan what do you think

>strawpoll.me/11000503
good kooord :3

first and probably last for /horn/

>Islamic Values
WHAT VALUES???

hae you read the quran? or worse yet the hadith? its values will not work with todays society

back in the 7th contury it was a beacon of hope, it was a way forward that is why its called the Golden Age of islam

Algebra was discovered, Astrological disoveries were made, Mathematics and Medicine had multiple breakthroughs

that was because Islam bought peace to them, AT THAT TIME

now the world has evolved, the values in the Quran and the way of life it dictates do not correspond with today, we NEED to reform.

when the Christians reformed peace was in Europe and colonization and trade became prominent, and discoveries were being made that rivaled and later surpassed the Muslims

its the only way to go forward, or we will lag behind just like the africans

please explaın why it is not relevant for me to have four wives, a slave servant and wear sandals and a white abaya in scandinavia? it is very important to me

Do they exist, Ghassan? He spoke arabic. Why aren't we good pan-arabists and lets just claim him. An arab is someone who can speak arabic right? Right habibi?

wew, the ummah is sicker than I thought
the europeans, myself included idolize the former periods of europe.
In all of its chaos we believe that the ideals of democracy, and invention and exploration that they held, led to current prosperity. Even will all the killing betrayal, and stupidity that was espused, we still love it.

As a muslim I believe that all of quranic values of right to life, property, caring for family and community and worshiping the creator and looking for him will lead us into an even greater age of prosperity.

Stop being a self hating cunt

top kek, those 4 wives might save your race from destruction

>explaın
he's a turk

Do you really think a reformation would work?
I honestly don't see it working at all.
Look at Turkey. They reformed Islam for 90 years and Turks were very moderate and secular Muslims.
It took only one Islamist government to convert millions of these moderate Muslims into crazy pube-bearded Islamists. It's extremely easy to brainwash people into Islamism.
I'm not for embracing a new moderate secular Islam, because I know that the result wouldn't be any different in MENA of that in Turkey's. I think Islam should be completely abolished.

>racist white muslims
globalisation at its best

I'm so sick and tired of seeing Arabs cling to Islam as if it's our only hope of reaching happiness and ending our miseries when it's exactly what's causing them.

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YA 3AZEEM

أنا مكسيكي

هل أستطيع أن أكون معكم هنا؟

تشي

>Islam
>causing miseries
you can make that claim when you all start practicing Islam correctly

Arabs are getting hit because you left the pefect deen. You abandoned allah and he abandoned you.

In america all the arabs that come here sell pork, wine and deal with interest and lottery, they send it back home and you all get fat with haram.
ahlan ya meksikano

it's not what's causing them that , in my opinion : all arabs should let their history go , they still live there
اهلا وسهلا فيك
كيف تعلمت العربي ؟

how dare, he was turkmen

والله لا أفهم العامية إلا قليلا

أظن أن تلك الكلمة كلمة قبيحة لكن لست متأكدا

أهلا يا أمريكي

سكنت في مصر سنة كاملة في مركز حتى أدرس اللغة

طبعا بسبب الإسلام فعلت ذلك

آسف بحثت عما كتبت

Che? تقصد؟

اه ,هيك قصدوا على الأغلب
سكنت بالقاهرة ولا الأسكندرية ؟
وشو طعامك المفضل ؟
انا بعتذر منك - بس لازم اسأل سؤال الطعام لأي اجنبي بتعلم العربي

Practise Islam correctly - just like ISIS is doing you mean? We should treat women like absolute shit, enslave non-Muslims, kill and torture anybody that critisizes the Islamic faith with cold blood, ban any sort of creativity and art, rape women and children to oblivion, etc.? Just drop your mental gymnastics and admit to yourself that Islam is an extremely horrible and deadly idealogy. It's not a religion of peace. It's not a religion of love. It's a religion of slavery and torture.

Turkey is still ages ahead of the rest of the midle east in terms of secularism and respect of people's privacy and ideas, yes it will fluctuate between liberalism and coservatism, and the people have yet to reach european standards of civism and political awareness, but the secularism of the state is set in stone now, it's not descending back to the levels of arabic islamism ever again.

تشي = CHI
The /int meme
Nevermind anyway

you're talking about wahhabisim , the fact that sunni islam became the wahhabi islam is disgusting

>Practise Islam correctly - just like ISIS is doing you mean?
If you think ISIS is practicing Islam your just as dumb as the average Sup Forums user, its really sad to see muslims being as ignorant as non-muslims are about Islam.

Follow a madhhab and you'll find that Islam is perfect and Islamic law is always constantly being reformed. Its sad to see people like you and him cant even understand that Islamic law and systems gave birth to the western institutions of law is sad

wahhabis are a vocal minority, do you even madhhab? What did they teach you all in elementary???

اهلا وسهلا حبيبي الى مركز الاسلام في اربع شان
نحن هنا نحب الاسلام جدا
جئت الى موقع مناسب لك يا اخي في الدين
المهم، من الضروري ان اسالك اسالة عن اخلاصك في الدين
هل تصلي؟ واذا لا، لمالا؟ أليس الصلاة واجب لنا؟ كم سم لحيتك؟
انتظر جوابك
بارك الله فيك

they are the truest followers of sahih el-bukhari and muslim mate.

are you denying the legitimacy of bukhari and muslim? are you a kafer?

Yes 100%

as this guy said turkey is leagues ahead of the other Islamic nations, we have to adapt to the modern age, can you honestly think of one thing used in that age that we still use to this day that we haven't improved on

القاهرة و ربما يوما من الأيام سأرجع فأريد أن أعرف أكثر من اللغة فقط

طعامي المفضل كان الكشري حتى الآن أريد أن آكله من جديد و طبعا الفول كنت آكله كل يوم
حقا الطعام في مصر ليس شيئا كبيرا

نعم أصلي و لحيتي صغيرة لأنني لا أستطيع أن أخرجها إلا قليلا و بارك الله فيك

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>trueset follower of bukhari and muslim
top kek
stop acting like you know hadith
bukhari and muslim's collections and what is contained within them is only a tiny fraction of what is relied upon for islamic law
the founders of the 4 madhhabs lived decades before bukhari and muslim were born
the hadith they narrate were already codified, interpreted and either accepted or denied

secularism destroys the only thing the arabs can ever be proud of, without islam you are literally nothing but sandy and oily people

>البخازي ومسلم
خخخخخخخ
محمد مات سنة 632 والبخاري ولد في 810.

محمد مفتري و كذاب

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>stop acting like you know hadith

I do, sadly

Abu Huraira reported: The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) said. When any one of you awakes up from sleep and performs ablution, he must clean his nose three times, for the devil spends the night in the interior of his nose. Bukhari - Book 002, Number 0462:

Narrated 'Amr bin Maimun: During the pre-lslamic period of ignorance I saw a she-monkey surrounded by a number of monkeys. They were all stoning it, because it had committed illegal sexual intercourse. I too, stoned it along with them. Bukhari - Volume 5, Book 58, Number 188:

Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "Yawning is from Satan and if anyone of you yawns, he should check his yawning as much as possible, for if anyone of you (during the act of yawning) should say: 'Ha', Satan will laugh at him." Bukhari - Volume 4, Book 54, Number 509:

I agree

اذا كان مفتري و كذاب 23،4 % من ناس فالعالم تعمل بما قاله، انت شنو عملت في حياتك ؟ :^)

the shittiest """argument""" I have encountered by now

نكت خالتك يا اخو المنيوكة هذا انجازي بالحياة
مسمي نفسك مسلم و حتى فلم الرسالة ما تعرفه
youtube.com/watch?v=p_U9s3fDBTo

>اذا كان مفتري و كذاب 23،4 % من ناس فالعالم تعمل بما قاله
thanks khalid ibn alwalid

> wahhabis are a vocal minority, do you even madhhab? What did they teach you all in elementary???
> wahhabis
> minority
kek , a minority that owns the arabic media

اهااا
انت لا تصدق البخاري؟
تعرف انك صرت كافر بالنسبة الى سبعين بالمئة من
مشايخ السنة؟
والان انت مرتد، عقابك الموت

you don't, you dont know the difference between targhib and tarhib, usul al-din, fiqh, aqidah or qasas

you dont know about ruwwat, you dont know about riwiyah or athar

you dont know hadith, find a mdhhab and a teacher

>what is a vocal minority
reading comprehension
talk to your local shuyukh, shafi and hanfi scholars you a7maq

زرت الأزهر ؟
شو اللي عجبك بمصر ؟ وليه ترغب بزيارتها مرة ثانية ؟

>لحيتي صغيرة
لا يجوز، برا

what the fuck are you talking about ? wahhabis came years later after shafi or hanafi , they say that they follow them , but fuck it : all of what they do or talk is ibn tamimyeh work

I know all of those terms actually

the terminology and methodology is quite irrelevant to the context of the hadith, though. why are you sidetracking? I showed you the more comic sides of bukhari, do you want to see the gruesome shit?

ibn ta3miyah didn't come up with anything btw, he basically took all the practical sides of islamic governance from the holy texts and put them in one place

wahhabis are an anti madhhab group, what re you even talking about? they slander the imams
especially imam abu hanifah
if you knew that you would know that collections are irrelevant in the face of narrators
and the earlier have precedence over the later
Bukhari is a book of hadith not fiqh

lol no berbers,jews,turks
>the arab butthurt sure is real

ibn taymiyyah is irrelevant
until the saudis there was never an islamic state that practiced anything based on his fiqh.
He came 100s of years after the fuqaha and the madhhabs of the fuaqaha were also the law of the islamic territories

ماذا تكلمت عني, يا ابن العاهرة؟ سأعرفك انني تخرجت الأول في صفي في القوات الفقمية, و شاركت في العديد من الهجمات السرية على القاعدة و عندي فوق ال300 قتيلات موثوقة. انا مدرب في حرب الغوريلات و انا أفضل قناص في جميع القوات الأمريكية. انت لا شيء بنسبة لي إلا هدف آخر. سأمسحك بدقة لم ترى من قط على وجه هذه الأرض, حدد كلماتي. هل تظن انك يمكن ان تذهب بقولك ذلك على إلانترنت؟ فكر مجددا. بينما نحن نتكلم أنا اتواصل مع شبكة الجواسيس السرية حول الولايات المتحدة لتحديد عنوانكا الأن, فعليك ان تهيىء نفسك للعاصفة, ايها الدودة. العاصفة التي تمسح الشيء المثير للشفقة الذي تناديه حياتك. انت ميت, ايها الطفل. يمكنني ان اكون في اي مكان و اي زمان, و يمكنني ان اقتلك في 700 طرق, و هذا فقط بيدي. لست فقط مدرب في قتال بلا اسلحة, بل ايضا لدي القدرة على كافة الأرسينال الأمريكي و سأستخدمه بكافته لمسح مؤخرتك التعيسة عن هذه القارة. إذا فقط علمت اي عقاب غير مقدس جلبته تعليقتك السخيفة على نفسك, ربما قد خرست. لكن لم يمكنك, لم تفعل, والأن انت تدفع الثمن, ايها الأحمق. سأبرز الغضب عليك و سوف تغرق فيه. أنت ميت, يا طفل.

عم بتحكي مع واحد اللى يفكر نفسه شيخ وعارف اسلام وشو فيه كاملا
هو كمان واحد وهابي وما بيعرف زي 90% المسلمين

كسمك
فهمت ال"""""ميم""""" نتاعك ولاكن كيف لخرى
وكسمك
م شاء الله
وطبون مك
كسم الشيعة وكسم السنة وكسم المسلمين انا مسلم قرآني :٤

wahhabism is the puritanical version of hanbalism (which are puritanical themselves)

shit thread


t. good poster

abrogation in hadith? loll, why are they adhered to then? i like where you are going with this but i hope you realize you're fighting an uphill battle, careful to not be labelled quranist by a durka and beheaded

تروح ع مسجد وتصلى في يوم الجمعة؟

agreed
t. non-squiggly poster

you realise there were infighting between madaheb and firaq as well, and a lot of talk about muh seniority as a source of legetimacy, it's not like these 4 are "official" or something

Why do you think Bukhari and Muslim are all there is to hadith?
Many scholars have criticized their collections
>كسم الشيعة وكسم السنة وكسم المسلمين انا مسلم قرآني :٤
you have to accept hadith
>puritanical
thats not how it works
fiqh and aqidah are two different things

you are really an idiot, the madhhabs were all about sorting through hadith
this isnt an uphill battle, this was how islam was practiced before abdul wahhab's ideology was spread with saudi petro dollars
you dont know hadith you dont know fiqh

>نتاعك
كس امك و ام لهجتك و ام دينك

>this mad

>fiqh and aqidah are two different things
so?

ان شاء الله اخي فالله :٤
كسمك انت يا راس زبي، مغربنا وطننا روحي فداه ومن يدس حقوقه يدق رداه
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>coming from the second best spic country
You realize you would've been wiped out for not being Aryan, right?

have you even been in the middle east once in your life? wahabbism has taken over mate, arab sunnis are now wahabbi in ideology, you are living in a bubble.

tb.h i was hoping you'd be a bukhari apologetic, good comedy value there

>it's not like these 4 are "official" or something
الحق دائر بين الاربعة
seniority is a big source of legitimacy, the closer you are to the prophet the better
4 imams > ibn taymiyya > abdul wahhab
in teh 4 imams
Abu Hanifa > Malik > Shafi > Ahmad bin Hanbal
imam ahmad's puritanism was in aqidah, the madhabs of fiqh are not the madhhabs of aqidah

:)
where ur panarabism now

حلو
نعرف انك ما بتصير (لا يمكنك) تصلي بدون الحديث صح؟

كس كل اناث عائلتك و مليار عير زنجي بكس كل مغربية من مليلة شمالاً الى الكويرة جنوباً