If you want help: >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs: >NO i5 7500/7600K or i7 7700/K. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY COFFEE LAKE >G4560/G4600 for non-gaming (light tasks) or bare minimum gaming builds with a dedicated graphics card >R3 1200 - Budget builds (best with OC + fast RAM) >R5 1600 / i5 8400 - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs >R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper / i7 - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use
RAM: >Current CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal >Before buying RAM for Ryzen, check your Mobo's QVL or look for user reports
Graphics cards: >Consider Vega 56 for a Freesync monitor >Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon) 1080p >GTX 1050Ti and 3GB 1060 are the only reasonably priced cards; 6GB 1060 or 4GB 580 if you want to overpay a little >GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >GTX 1070/Ti and 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced >GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4K) >GTX 1080Ti
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 240GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor
is Kryonaut worth it? I'm getting a 1600x and an H7 cooler (+be quiet highspeed fan) which I plan to OC to 4ghz. My case will have pretty shit tier airflow though so I thought its probably best to save every degree I can.
Lucas Butler
Daily reminder that Covfefe Lake was supposed to launch with Zen+ near early 2018. Intel shat it out to stop the Ryzen hype (which actually delivered surprisingly for AMD). i7 8700k is still a pretty strong CPU tho
Julian Rivera
user who forgot stand offs what's your status
Charles Nelson
If I was the CEO of Intel I would have unironically named it Covfefe Lake. Would have been pretty fucking hilarious.
Daniel Wood
Why not use Conductonaut if you are playing around with OC anyhow?
Julian Long
my case had stand-offs welded into the case, it was okay
Hunter Harris
Drumpf would've literally killed Inlel though
Asher Ramirez
So are you still having issues?
Andrew Bennett
If you're going to overclock then why get the x model? Unless it's on sale there isn't a point. Intel's naming process is required to be convoluted and meaningless. That would have too much purpose.
first build and I don't know anything about liquid metal compounds so I'm scared to use one
Benjamin Hughes
Gay maymay case, I don't like it or the full window variant.
Plus why bother with an extra case fan?
James Rivera
Do you plan to overclock both your CPU and video card?
Joshua Gonzalez
i dont see why i couldnt try
Carson Jenkins
> first build Just let me point out you probably don't need to OC.
> I don't know anything about liquid metal compounds You don't need to know much apart from them conducting heat *multiple times* better.
Just don't apply it on alu and check that it didn't spill over (because liquid metal can do that and short mainboard components... but it only requires eyes to check, not skills).
Julian Taylor
Good to hear, because I would recommend the SC Black over the FTW model if you aren't intent on getting the most out of your parts.
Xavier Davis
kek I thought that fan was a steering wheel for a moment
Jason Diaz
What the fuck ram should I get with Ricen 1600 - the only thing left!
Owen Price
the stocks are fine?
Adam Morgan
whats the difference
Adam Moore
Yes, the stock fans on most higher end cases these days are fine.
And even just turning one or two tends to be enough for even an average gaming machine. (YMMV if you have stacks of HDD and a lot of multi GPU nonsense which isn't mostly cooled through its own vents but into the case for some reason, and all in one machine).
Michael Bailey
The FTW model is more expensive due to a more capable cooling solution. In my opinion it isn't as good of a value as the cheapest EVGA 1070.
Liam Jenkins
Is the Windows RAM speed display in the resource manager reliable?
Connor Kelly
what's the Ryzen chip itself made out of? I may not /need/ to OC but I've seen the performance benefits of it in benchmarks and I would like to regardless as a learning experience. I chose not to go with the 8400 for various reasons but one of them is the fact that I can get pretty damn close to it at 1440p with a 1600x OC'd. Application should be fine, I have steady hands.
Zachary Roberts
Depends on what it says compared to what your BIOS says If it's half of the total then that makes sense If it's an odd number that doesn't relate at all then something is wrong
Connor Hill
You do know that you don't need liquid metal to do OC. Any quality thermal paste is fine.
Austin Ortiz
Hey Sup Forums what ram should I get for this build: pcpartpicker.com/list/23DbWX >budget 700$ cad >for music production and a bit of games
Anthony Russell
>If you're going to overclock then why get the x model? Are Ryzen CPUs binned?
Jacob Hughes
hence my original post? lol
Leo Stewart
>7100 Hold on. Why? This thing is a joke compared to the 1200, at the same damn price. Plus, the 1200 has good $50 boards. They supposedly are, but it makes little difference. The advantage of an x chip is that you don't have to overclock. Some 1600s perform better than some 1600xs.
Memory prices are not going down withing the next 6 months. Also, you can get RAM that performs similarily to that for $90.
Liam Young
HELP
I want to build a computer to MAKE games, not really to play games. I want something that will demolish Blender and GIMP and Ableton Live Suite.
I'm looking heavily at a Ryzen 1700 CPU but the new Intel CPUs just came out and I don't really know how good they are since I've been looking at AMD this whole time. So here are my options: >Go with the 1700 If I do that, what Mobo should I choose? I've kind of decided to go with 32 GB ram already. Mostly for Ableton >Look into Intel If I do that, what should be the processor to look at? If it's the 8700K, then why should I just just go for a Threadripper or something? Also a recommendation for a mobo.
David Thompson
Is it worth it to go from fx 8320e to i7 2600 for games? The newer ryzen/intel cpu+mobo+ram is more than im willing to pay for.
James Butler
whats the fucken difference ive been using a 720p
Jose Barnes
Just built my first pc pretty proud of myself just got everything to boot. 2 questions you plug the ssd with the sata cables right?
And im using this old ass cpu fan right now and it has trouble spinning with out me giving a little push. Any advice?
Hunter Brooks
Do all of these scale well with multiple cores/threads? If so, then Ryzen (or even Threadripper)'s stronger multicore will aid you more than Intel's weaker performance. Most importantly, what's your budget?
Blake Brooks
Yes, 2.5" SSDs use SATA power and data cables. Buy a new CPU cooler if it doesn't start automatically.
Zachary Roberts
I know Blender will, GIMP probably will and Ableton is more RAM dependent than CPU bound but it can spread the load around the cores/threads.
My budged is around preferably $700 USD since I already have a case, PSU, and drives. I'm mostly in the market for a CPU, motherboard and RAM. The ram will probably be half of my budged since RAM is stupidly priced.
Jaxson Cook
What's the way to go?
David Wright
I made this with the 1700. I don't know much about the board but it's a cheap X370 so it can be substituted if you want. Second cheapest 4x8 kit also, only $6 more than the absolute cheapest and a lot faster. Does this look good to you? pcpartpicker.com/list/2Bp6Ps
Matthew Torres
EATX is special and fits in barely any cases ATX is pretty standard mATX is cut-down but that can be a good thing mITX is cut down to the point where you have to specifically want it in a build
Julian Martin
So far that looks good. Any reason to use a 4x8 kit vs a 2x16 kit if price is nearly the same? obviously later I can stick another kit in if I want to but are there performance benefits?
Kevin Johnson
Is there any reason not to use Windows 10 in current year? Are all of those sketchy rumors about it when it was launching still a thing or was that conspiracy by macshitters and earlier windows version purists?
Mason Butler
>E-ATX
srs bsns
>ATX
Regular business
> m-ATX
This build was sponsored by Razer™
>m-ITX
HTC
Ayden Howard
if ur gaymen then no, only tinfoil retards will tell you otherwise
Jayden Collins
Would there be any appreciable difference between a 2500K and a 3570K in terms of heat generation? I'm sick of how much hot air my 2500K machine blows into my room during the summer and the 3570K seems like it might be the solution since it has a smaller die with denser lithography.
Brandon Roberts
i just assembled my new parts and they run great 1600 16gig 3200 ram gigabyte b350 it runs great, only issue i had was the case plate thingy has padding on it and that made it hard to align the screw holes onto the case. did some pressure and it worked out fine. omg its so fast, i had a phenom 1 before, lol
Andrew Lewis
there are no performance benefits on ryzen
Aaron Collins
For most people probably ATX or mini ITX.
The latter allows you to use a smaller cube case, but it also won't have as many slots / ports in case you want to farm RAM modules or SATA drives or whatever.
Even on Sup Forums, quite many people won't need more ports than a mini ITX board has, though.
Cameron Parker
I couldn't find anything 3000MHz CL15 that was close to the price in 2x16 kits. It would cost about $10 more and you would have slightly higher latencies. As for performance, having 4 sticks means your PC can oull data out of all of them at once, instead of having to wait. This doesn't double performance, but it can increase performance slightly in some CPU or RAM based tasks. It's up to you if you want to do 2x16 or 4x8, since either is fine. There are, but if none come to mind for you then don't worry about it.
Hunter Mitchell
mATX is enough.
Samuel Richardson
If you are gaming, use 10. If you are afraid of the NSA, you shouldn't be considering windows in the first place. Including 7.
Aiden Sullivan
Primarily gaming, with some photo/video/3D other stuff on the side
none come to mind, but I haven't done any research, and don't know anything about windows 10 so none would come to mind with my knowledge of it
Hudson Brown
>Daily reminder that Covfefe Lake was supposed to launch with Zen+ near early 2018. And it will be. Nothing changed.
Asher Parker
just get w10, and if you get shilled on linux dont use some godawful distro
Charles Anderson
Name a shop
Carson Robinson
Do 8th Generation Intel CPUs require a Z370 MB?
Jaxson Myers
at the moment
Andrew Baker
They don't require it (other motherboards will launch in 2018), but it's you only option. Basically yes.
Angel Gomez
Any reason why get a 960 EVO over a PM961 (OEM version)? even in user benchmarks it's about 10% difference in writes and 1-2% in reads
Little known about this ram, there's a 2x8 kit with similar number and it's e-die. If this one is e-die too that will mean 4 ranks per channel which is a bit high for ryzen if you ask me
How can I make sure no bad shit gets onto my new system?
I'm almost exclusively going to be re-downloading installers and games and stuff so I'm not worried about that. But I also have an external HD with about 500GB of shit and I don't know if there could be viruses or corrupted files that could harm my new build
David Powell
Run an antivirus? Wipe the drive except for a few files you want to keep?
John Sullivan
I suppise the best option would then be the $340 2x16 if they don't go in stock soon.
You should be fine. It's only 2800MHz so I assume it should have wider compatability.
Hudson Robinson
>How can I make sure no bad shit gets onto my new system? Bury your system in your backyard.
Carter Roberts
That's an interesting voltage (1.25v). Either typo and it's hynix die with 1.35v or something cool.
Tyler Cox
When is Polaris successor coming out?
Hudson Lopez
Any chance i'll be able to hit 140hz~ on a 1440p with a 980ti
Elijah Walker
Post /guts/
Juan Ross
You can't hit a hertz number, only a framecount. In order to reach 140 frames you'd probably have to have a 1080ti, and the 980ti is bascially a 1070. You will have to drop quality settings to get that far.
David Ramirez
Depends on the game, but you can probably tweak your settings enough for it.
Joshua Morris
Sure you can; hertz is just a measure of frequency. 140fps is analogous to 140 Hz, and although it's standard to reserve Hz for monitor refresh rate denotation, what they said is totally decipherable with context.
Dominic Baker
Whats a good 300 series mobo for a i5-8600k and a good paired ram?
Isaac Clark
The Z370 Extreme4 is where VRMs begin for coffee lake boards. Not sure about RAM though.
Michael Garcia
There are already graphics metrics measured in hertz, such as core and memory clocks. Plus, video cards don't output frames at regular intervals. You can understand it, but it's annoying, just like calling a video card a GPU.
Ryder Murphy
What is better take slower gpu and have Freesync or buy a better gpu and don't have it? I'm thinking of buying 1060 3gb bc im on a budget but idk what is better
Brayden Bennett
>calling a video card a GPU is annoying
Julian Myers
A video card isn't a GPU. There's still PCB, memory, and cooling solutions, along with (sometimes) a backplate, and ports.
Samuel Hughes
GPU refers to a unit and doesn't equal to a silicon chip.
