Know your history, anons

Know your history, anons

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wiki.illumos.org/display/illumos/illumos Home
hpe.com/us/en/servers/hp-ux.html
www-03.ibm.com/systems/power/software/aix/
minix3.org/
apple.com/macos/high-sierra/
freebsd.org/
dragonflybsd.org/
netbsd.org/
openbsd.org/
blog.tintagel.pl/2015/01/03/code-rot-openbsd.html
openbsd.org/goals.html
openbsd.org/security.html
openbsd.org/innovations.html
youtu.be/wTVfAMRj-7E
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Linux#Linux_under_the_GNU_GPL
twitter.com/SFWRedditImages

Where's windows? You know, the thing that has like 90% market share right now?

Umm this is a timeline of GOOD operating systems!

>no games
>good
pick one

>no market share
>good

>no games means not good
Go back to Sup Forums

Go Sup Forumsa/ck/ to your Sup Forumsa/s/e/m/e/n/t/

>thousands of games
>no games

>he fell for the market share maymay

Don't forget to specify desktop market share

>games
>gains
>gayums
>gay ems
>gain mus
>gay moss

can someone get this toddler out of here? he's clearly violating global rule #2

>implying iDevices and imitators matter

>rule
>roole
>ru ewl
>roll
>ruwl
>roowl

>he thinks these are the only thing he was talking about

>muh FOSS
Fuck off Stallmeme

This.
>You're not free unless you suck my cock exactly how I tell you

Where's Minix? You know, the os that linux was basically forked from?

Also, it's a bit misleading to separate FreeBSD from the original BSD, since it was literally just a branding change due to AT&T being patent trolling dicks.

thou are blind!

>GNU/Hurd
Is it even remotely usable yet?

Oy, fucking transparent png's with black text on a black background. OP, why you hate mobile users?

Dude, nobody actually USES servers.

Exactly. Servers are outdated. Everybody knows sites are all hosted on clouds now.

>that feeling when you realize there are people who don't know the cloud is just someone else's servers.

>we don't use servers anymore
>instead we just use servers

Nobody above 15 years of age cares

back to with your shitshow

Wow this thread sucked.
Nobody has anything to actually say on any of these unices?
Comparisons?
Contrasts?
Experiences?

>can't tell the difference between a Sup Forumsmic and Sup Forumsnime

>Argentina
>Canada
Sounds like you can't tell the difference, retard.

i know it was an Sup Forumsnime made in Argentina and shown in Canada.
You must be pretty fucking dense.

It's made in Canada, retard.

Learn to read before you write.

>Comparisons?
OpenBSD > *BSD >= Illumos/Solaris > everything else

>Contrasts?
OpenBSD: Simple, stable, and cleanly designed with sane defaults
*BSD: an upgrade from the half-assed, ad-hoc world of linux
Illumos/Solaris: underrated, well engineered OS

>Experiences?
OpenBSD: best
*BSD: better than most alternatives
Illumos: at least it has pkgsrc
Linux: a mess
everything else: I can't even

Honorable Linux mentions:
NixOS, GuixSD, Void, Gentoo, OpenSUSE

Yay!

While I most certainly disagree with your point about Linux being trash, I do agree with your choices for honorable Linux mentions, and that three out of the 5 do not use systemd and look quite comfy. I personally am looking at trying out GuixSD and Gentoo myself in the future. I have tried Void and quite like its runit init system.

Why do you say that OpenBSD is a step above the other BSDs? Is it because Net/FreeBSD aren't as dedicated to security? I could certainly see that.

As far as Illumos/Solaris, what do you think puts them below BSD?

Im learning things uwu

bamp

bumping again with a list of where the other non-GNU/Linux shit is
wiki.illumos.org/display/illumos/illumos Home
hpe.com/us/en/servers/hp-ux.html
www-03.ibm.com/systems/power/software/aix/
minix3.org/
apple.com/macos/high-sierra/
freebsd.org/
dragonflybsd.org/
netbsd.org/
openbsd.org/

OP, you're a gigantic faggot.

Where is illumos in that infographic?

you got told and thats the best you can come up with?

you got fucking told and all you can say is the "go back" meme? give up you dumbass

Look, I love OpenBSD as much as the next guy, but I've never had hardware that actually works with it. It's such a fucking pain to buy parts to suit it.
Also FreeBSD has first-class ZFS and that's pretty fucking neato I would say

Solaris/Opensolaris basically

>Why do you say that OpenBSD is a step above the other BSDs?
Security is a partial reason, but I think the whole thing about OpenBSD being "The Security OS" is a bit of a meme. What really sets it apart is it's development philosophy, where they actively try to reduce legacy cruft, place high importance in providing excellent documentation, not being afraid to rewrite things better and simpler (e.g. libressl, doas, httpd, etc), prioritize giving the end user the most solid reliable system possible, and not being willing to withhold vulnerability patches from their users for needlessly long periods of time for the sake of protecting big companies that are show to roll out fixes and are paranoid about exploits "leaking" into the wild (yeah, that's a thing). So basically, "security" is just a side effect of their philosophy, and that's what I like about it.

This guy basically sums up most of my opinions pretty well though:
blog.tintagel.pl/2015/01/03/code-rot-openbsd.html

More OpenBSD info:
openbsd.org/goals.html
openbsd.org/security.html
openbsd.org/innovations.html

>As far as Illumos/Solaris, what do you think puts them below BSD?
I would actually say they're about equal, though in different ways, since I think Illumos is better designed overall than FreeBSD for example, but BSD's get a slight edge because they're more supported, and HardenedBSD at least is patching up a lot of the issues with FreeBSD.

As for why I put all those above Linux, this man explains it far better than I ever could:
youtu.be/wTVfAMRj-7E

Saved, thanks

Cool stuff. OpenBSD sounds like the best one if I wanted to try out one of those. I've also heard some good things about NetBSD having very clean, simple code as well.

Yeah for Illumos, I think it needs more time to get more support/develop more. I had a quick look through their package search and found a lot of common shit missing. Stuff that you would be able to get on any Linux and probably most BSDs.

You're welcome, user. there are a lot of versions of this image, but the other ones seemed a bit incomplete compared to this one.

>tfw you remember the time before "cloud" became an industry standard term

Pepperridge Farm remembers

This one is missing code sharing between FreeBSD and Darwin/macOS.

And NetBSD with the initial Mac OS X Server

Arch, Gentoo, Void, Devaun, Crux, Slackware, Void

Seeing that X is not a core part of the OS, that isn't really important.

BSD has just barely enough software to be usable, other UNIX and UNIX-like OS have almost done. How hipster do you need to be to use ones like plan9?

>How hipster do you need to be to use ones like plan9?
Not hipster, only severely autistic and depressed.

I thought it was initially fully NetBSD based before switching to FreeBSD

Ah, you mean this one.

Minix wasn't open source until 2000. You can get the PDP-7 Unix source code now, but that doesn't retroactively turn it into open source. It's highly misleading to label Minix 1.x as open source, especially since the closed source of Minix was one of the biggest reasons why Torvalds created Linux from scratch.

>UNIX
>good

Fuck off underage

>Winblows
>good

They are on the same level of quality, actually.
- t OS API designer

Please elaborate

Installing dragonflybsd right now!

PC has no good games you mong.

Ancient garbage.

Cool, user!
Let us know how it goes

oh and nice trips!

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>startxfce4
>don't start

I know jack shit about BSD, but don't you set a thing in your xinitrc and then do startx, or install a display manager and choose it from there? That's how I do it in Loonix.

>you got fucking told
>he actually thinks this

/thread

What you're saying is even more misleading. Everyone that bought the minix textbook got a full copy of the source code to go along with it, so you could always get a copy of the source code if you wanted it that way. It's not "free software", but it still qualifies under the looser definition of "open source", it just happened to be a commercial open source project at the time. It wouldn't make any sense as a teaching tool if the code were fully closed like you're suggesting.

I'm pretty sure Minix has always been open-source (it's the reference system for Tannenbaum's OS book, after all), it's just that it had some retarded education-only license that severely restricted it.

kys cunt

And now you can get it here, uwu
minix3.org/

It's just opensolaris 10 slightly patched and compiled by other people since Oracle ate Sun.

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Just took a quick look at the Minix site
wew

>Minix was one of the biggest reasons why Torvalds created Linux from scratch.
No it wasn't

The first versions of linux were close sourced as well

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Linux#Linux_under_the_GNU_GPL

>I had a quick look through their package search and found a lot of common shit missing. Stuff that you would be able to get on any Linux and probably most BSDs.
That's partially due to lack of interest, but has a lot to do with the those packages not supporting Solaris. Back when I was doing work with Illumos, one of the big problems was the kernel didn't have some APIs that python's psutils package needed to be fully functional so the package was neutered. That in turn broke a bunch of python based utilities we used on Linux and BSD. There where other issues like the standard utilities only supporting a more tradition and limited set of flags which broke scripts that used effectively standard flags on Linux, BSD, and Mac.

All of these issues can be worked around, but with such a small community it is up to you to patch the shit you need.

The biggest problem I had was that when Oracle took over and released Solaris 11, they took down all the Solaris 10 docs and the old Sun forums so you'd google a problem and the link would just redirect you Oracle's homepage. Archive.org helps a bit, but it was really frustrating.

>they took down all the Solaris 10 docs and the old Sun forums so you'd google a problem and the link would just redirect you Oracle's homepage.
Every time I think Oracle can't possibly get any worse, I find out shit like this. Oy.

You're confusing "open source" and "free software".
Linux has always been open souce. It just wasn't free software (as defined by FSF).

For clarification, here is the definition of free software:

A program is free software if the program's users have the four essential freedoms:

The freedom to run the program as you wish, for any purpose (freedom 0).
The freedom to study how the program works, and change it so it does your computing as you wish (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for this.
The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor (freedom 2).
The freedom to distribute copies of your modified versions to others (freedom 3). By doing this you can give the whole community a chance to benefit from your changes. Access to the source code is a precondition for this.

Well then minix was always "open source" as well

*a definition of free software

ok

Basically did, plus POSIX lacks stuff that enables PyParallel on Windows.

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>More Unix circle jerk
.NET master race. Don't forget it penguins, Jewgle, and macfags

kek