If you want help: >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs: >NO i5 7500/7600K or i7 7700/K. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY COFFEE LAKE >G4560/G4600 for non-gaming (light tasks) or bare minimum gaming builds with a dedicated graphics card >R3 1200 - Budget builds (best with OC + fast RAM) >R5 1600 / i5 8400 - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs >R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper / i7 - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use
RAM: >Current CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal >Before buying RAM for Ryzen, check your Mobo's QVL or look for user reports
Graphics cards: >Consider Vega 56 for a Freesync monitor >Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon) 1080p >GTX 1050Ti and 3GB 1060 are the only reasonably priced cards; 6GB 1060 or 4GB 580 if you want to overpay a little >GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >GTX 1070/Ti and 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced >GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4K) >GTX 1080Ti
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 240GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor
Why are there no affordable options for general PC use? x86-64 non gaming just browsing and watching videos.
Andrew Bennett
I'm looking to upgrade the GPU because the fans are broken on my current one (and also it's getting a tiny bit out-dated.) should I go for the 1060 3GB? Also is it worth upgrading my 8GB DDR3 RAM to 8GB DDR4 RAM? Is the CPU ready for an upgrade or is it still OK?
Jeremiah Baker
Looking to play games by the way Things like Fortnite, PUBG, GTA V
Sebastian Green
Is the jump from 802.11n to 802.11ac worth the money for wi-fi?
Gabriel Davis
That's what I was thinking but those standoff pieces came with the case and I haven't seen any mention of built-in standoffs in the case manual. As I said it fits perfectly without the pieces though.
Jack Perez
Guys, should I upgrade my Poozen to a Covfefe Lake? I can't stand only getting 140FPS in games, I need 200 at the very least.
James Brown
Just buy a used prebuilt mini pc then, like the Thinkcentre. Under $200 on ebay and can do exactly what you want.
Justin Young
Anything resembling a timeline for the 2080 yet?
Brandon Lee
You cant upgrade to ddr4 unless you swap your motherboard and cpu. My recommendation would be probably a used 970. About same performance as a 1060 3gb, but could be found cheaper, unless you're only looking to buy new.
Cpu is still pretty good, but judging by your knowledge of ram and overall pc performance I assume it's not even overclocked.
Samuel Nelson
thanks for the advice friend
Eli Williams
>godlike >caution: ultimate power >xtreme >LEDs our the ass >8+4 and then another 6-pin >four 16x PCI-E and three m.2 slots on fucking socket 1151 >$500 Just goy my shit up.
Leo Lopez
I don't know how you can live with having a chip that's under 300 degrees.
Bentley Long
Why does my new PC freeze for 5 seconds after saving an image or upload one from chrome? Even if I save it to a location other than my C:/ drive it locks up every time I save an image.
What PDF reader should I use?
Caleb Robinson
how can you install the processor before removing the cover?
Nolan Green
What computer parts do you have and what OS are you using?
Daniel Brooks
About 63 years
Elijah Ramirez
I'm thinking about building a desktop. I want to be at least the next level up from my current laptop which has the following specs: >CPU i5-4340M >GPU GTX 850M >RAM 8GB
Dylan Moore
Am I dumb for not understanding where to connect all the wires on my mobo?
More specially the sata cables and case buttons There's 2 different sata connectors and the case ones aren't very clear
Jose Morris
He needs to change out the cooler for the cpu. He has the base one which just isn't strong enough as seen by the cpu temps. I bought the 212 meme, because it was cheap, and my temps are in the low twenties at idle.
Jace Johnson
Kinda. Take out the manual for your case and the Mobo read it and work at it slowly.
Aiden Parker
What would you do on it, and what is your budget?
Landon Watson
8700k, 1080Ti. Brand new build
Carson Perez
I'll consider that
Gabriel Lewis
What's the point of the 1060 6gb? How is it for 1440p?
Thomas King
How about RAM model and board?
Jace Stewart
Recommend me a good 4k monitor that isn't going to burn a hole the size of the sun into my wallet
Evan Gray
Gaming pro carbon, 16gb G.Skill trident Z
John Watson
He has an H81 motherboard, so he couldn't overclock the CPU even if he wanted to.
Camden Turner
first time bulder here which one of these should i go for
PRIME B350M-A AMD B350 (SOCKET AM4) DDR4 MICRO ATX MOTHERBOARD
Probably the Gigabyte one since it has an extra PCIe slot. The Asus board is a smaller form factor (Micro ATX vs ATX), so use that one if you plan on building in a particularly small case.
Juan Lopez
grow up
Levi Lewis
It's a pretty mixed bag. The main reason I am looking to build one is that I finally can as I am going to be living in one place for a decent amount of time so no longer need a laptop. I don't want to go to the trouble of building a desktop for it only to have the same specs as my laptop. I suppose I would proritise a better CPU over a better GPU. My budget would be around the 500GBP mark.
Austin Long
my bad that gigabyte one should be the micro version, is Asus more reliable? thanks.
Joshua Young
What are those buttons for?
Carson Brown
If it's just basic browsing you can get something used that will work fine if you put more RAM or a video card in.
Evan Cruz
I want to upgrade from my 2609 to an 8700k but between the CPU, Mobo, ram, and fan it'll cost like $550 maybe one day lol
Wyatt Wood
Can an old psu slowly causing an hdd to fail?
If so, how can i make sure?
I'm asking cuz my wd from 2012 was having problems and yday i plugged in a replacement and it only showed up on bios after replugging and restarting 3 times....
Grayson Jones
is a 450 watt Psu enough for ryzen 5 1600 and a 1060 6gb
Brandon Nelson
Yeah
Ryan Hughes
At stock speeds, sure.
Elijah Thomas
How many hard drives? Will you overclock either the GPU, CPU or both? Do you plan to put more shit in said PC in the future? If yes, are you fine with buying another PSU again later on?
IMO you should put another 30 dollars and get a 650 or 750. Also check johnnyguru review of the PSU you want to buy to see if it's well made or not.
Michael Baker
I was thinking of getting this new motherboard, and because I'm running Wi-Fi, the integrated 802.11 ac intel chip seemed appealing:
But I noticed it doesn't seem to include the Dual Band 2T2R antennas, at least the description doesn't say so. I know the Asus Strix z370 MB comes with two antennas, so I was wondering if every WiFi MB does, because those antennas seem difficult to find and/or expensive.
Am I better off just forgetting about integrated wi-fi and buying a bluetooth USB adapter?
Ryder Rogers
I screwed the 3.5 bay screws into the motherboard standoffs by mistake and now all but 3 won't screw out. What can I do?
You guys think RAM prices will drop in the next few months, or stay the same?
Austin Flores
the msi click bios is absolutely awful
Christian Torres
Depends on what you mean by a "few months." I personally don't believe they'll drop that much until the last 2-3 months of next year.
Oliver Hughes
I'm thinking of building my rig around February next year and I was really tempted to buy some parts during BF sales (including RAM), but instead opted for buying just a nice monitor and leaving the rest for next year. I expect pretty much all other components will either stay the same or drop in price, but the RAM worries me a bit since I have a sneaking suspicion that they might actually amp up prices even further
Signs point to no. RAM prices are unlikely to fall unless the production capacity increases, and none of the major producers are building new fabs.
Jose Fisher
the Corsair cx (2015) psu's are not for gaming or heavy work loads
Samuel King
Shieeet, then I guess I missed the lowest prices for a while. Gonna hope for some After-Christmas sales now, though RAM sticks rarely get more than a 5% discount
Easton Mitchell
>tfw I can't understand if that mobo is real or a parody image.
Brody Hall
I have one, will run pretty much anything on ultra at 1080p60, except really taxing games. Would not recommend for 1440p. I upgraded to a 1440p144 monitor and realized I have to upgrade my card to actually utilize the refresh rate I paid out the ass for.
Chase Baker
You put the processor in its socket, close the lid and the plastic part pops out.
Gavin Gomez
It's real and it's great
Jace Gutierrez
thnks for the heads up i swap it for 550w, is it worth paying an extra £10 for full modular?
Oliver Scott
Assuming the m.2 drives don't explode given they are wedged between gpus.
Not particularly. Full modular is more useful in teeny tiny cases or if you love having tempered glass.
Logan Cruz
Thoughts on the Silverstone Primera RGB?
Ian Barnes
Just over a year ago, built my current PC-- 6700k, 1070, 16GB DDR4, etc. Was a completely new PC over my old one-- 3570k, AMD 7850, 8GB DDR3, etc. 'Problem' is, is that I barely push my current system. Bar a couple AAA games I wanted to play, I basically only play Siege (which uses like 40% GPU on my settings), and a few other games here and there, but they're not demanding (e.g. Nioh, Furi, etc.) and emus. I've been meaning to sell off part of my old rig, but honestly, I've been thinking of switching back to it and upgrading the GPU, and then selling my current rig for like the same price I bought it at ('cause of all the price hikes atm.) It's tempting. I'm a bit out of the loop, but you could still run games on a 3570k right, especially if oyu OC'ed it? And I could chuck in whatever pre-owned GPU I could find, around 290 performance. I also wanna switch to AMD for freesync-- I have been meaning to get a new monitor for the longest time to go along with my current build, but man... gsync is expensive, and I couldn't decide between 1440p or 1080p/144hz (think I'd prefer the latter.) I'm honestly just being jewy here and trying to min/max my spending here-- I don't need the power of my current PC, and if I could sell it for around the same price I bought it all for... interesting proposition.
Jonathan White
ASRock AB350 Pro4 or ASRock X370 Taichi
for getting an 1600X to 4.0 GHz?
Levi Nguyen
As far as cases go, what aspects do you look at the most?
Air Flow? Cable Management? Aesthetics?
Brayden Collins
Just sell your 1070 and half of your DDR4 RAM, plus all of your old rig. Buy a 580 and a Freesync monitor. With the way you currently game, that shit will last you for 5-8 years
Kayden Smith
Air flow, dust filters and quietness (THICC cases can isolate some of the sound from fans)
John Scott
would LX 600W 80 PLUS BRONZE FULL MODULAR POWER SUPPLY fit this build
is there a difference between 6cores/6threads and 6cores/6threads for gaymin? Since I'm waiting for coffee lake might as well wait a little more for the i5 K version that will be 6c/12t, I heard with more threads you might experience less stutter and a smoother experience, is that true?
Just the way Ryzen had a better experience than the 7700K in some games because of stutters, worse frametimes when all cores and threads were used in some games with the kabylake.
Jeremiah Taylor
Looks good You may have too little RAM
Josiah Sullivan
>mfw all-out Threadripper 1950x build waiting at home for me to slap together when I come off the road for Christmas vacation
Angel Foster
That first paragraph made no sense so I'll assume you're asking if SMT makes a difference when you already have 6 cores. Currently it doesn't, since multicore isn't widely suppoeted, but in maybe a couple games it will give some advantage and in a few years many games could take full advantage.
In short, the 6/6 chips and the 6/12 chips will do the exact same in most modern games.
Whaddup peeps completing a build today ,i havent built a performance pc since late 2009 ,the game sure has changed. my specs now are >>Z270 pro motherboard x 4gb patriot ram sticks >>i7 7700 >>m.2 128 win10 (for the directx12) tb/2tb(backup) wd hdd x120mm fans >>all glass case >>(old graphics) gtx650 ti 2gb all in all it will cost me around 400$ keep it alive for the year
Jack Cox
Due to some Amazon and delivery guy fuckery I now have one extra NF-A14 fans. I plan to have three intake fans at the front, one at the bottom, and one exhaust at the rear. Case is Define S. Is this a bad idea? GPU is open air (1080)
Kayden Nguyen
Why do indians think AMD is somehow less jewish than Intel?
Landon Anderson
Taichi
Brody Ward
>i7 7700 It's outdated look at the 8th gen intel cpus
Luis James
Yeah I meant to say if there will be a difference in frametimes between the current 6c/6t i5 8600K and the next intel i5 9600K(?) that supposedly will have 6c/12t.
Caleb Flores
>i7 7700 It's outdated look at the 8th gen intel cpus the I5-8400 is basically the same performance and its $200
Sebastian White
>gtx650 ti 2gb also I got the gtx650 1 gb and it can't handle the new games without downing res to disgusting proportions.
Charles Kelly
I didn't notice my post number until you quoted me. Nice.
Nex gen Intel is all speculation, but there's a strong chance that the i7s will be 8/16. Anything about i3s and i5s is just speculation, but they could be upped in thread count or stay as they are now.
As for performance, it looks like they'll be refreshing 14nm again so maybe higher efficiency and slight clock gains, but nothing serious in single core. I wouldn't bank on the 9th gen if you're in the market now, but it's fine if you can hold off for however long it takes.
Jacob Wood
Nobody is saying that AMD won't take your money. If you like their philosophy more in things like multicore and value chips, then they are more agreeable, judaism isn't a factor.
Ethan Brooks
will I be able to play at 1080p60fps while streaming with a r5 1600 and a rx 580?
Jaxson Price
As you see games still depend on clockspeeds very much but more cores tend to be faster to a certain point. 6c/12t is the sweet spot right now I'd say. In a year 8/16 will probably be more widely utilised and faster.
Liam Perez
Depends on how graphically demanding the game is, and you might have to set some settings from ultra to high.
Jacob Morgan
>That pic Jesus fuck I think I'm going to puke
Christian Parker
Beware of the chipset heatsink's ultimate power.
Thomas Richardson
RGB xDDD >entry level board vs enthusiast level board for getting maximum overclock possible How do you think?
Andrew Russell
>activate windows lol
Luke Ortiz
Can freesync cause input lag like normal vsync?
Julian Ross
kind of endearing actually
Colton Lee
The Taichi has much stronger power phases, probably because it costs between two to three times as much depending on the day. A higher end B350 board would be the best option if you care about pricing at all.
Brandon Clark
Name one b350 board with actually good vrm. Pro-tip: there's none
Ryan Gonzalez
Are the 8th generation 6 core CPUs still garbage for multitasking?
Nicholas Wright
The 8700k (lol) matches Ryzen 7 in multicore. The 8600k comes close to the 1600 (overclocked) but can't quite close the gap. 8700 beats it in multicore.
Blake Powell
Do I really have no choice but to buy windows if I wanna do a fresh install after upgrading from 8350 to 1600? Currently have 8.1 OEM. I feel like I need to do a fresh install or something will go wrong
Nathan Rivera
noob question: what even makes a mobo better than another, besides having more ports? wtf is vrm?
I just picked one that was compatible with my cpu and that's it
Liam Phillips
VRMs supply power to components on the board, with some dedicated to the CPU. More is better, but quality matters the most. This can allow more dtabke overclocks and further overclocks compared to cheap boards.
Daniel Mitchell
Buildzoid, pls. Not everyone is going to be pumping 1.6v through the chip and making the vrms handle 400w of cpu.
