>After careful consideration, the Vidme team has arrived at the difficult decision to suspend the Vidme site and apps effective December 15th at noon PT. We’ll use this blog post to explain what this means for users, how we got here, and what’s next for us.
>What this means for users:
> • New sign-ups and uploads will be disabled effective today.
> • Existing videos will be playable and exportable from your video manager until December 15th at noon PT, at which point they will be permanently deleted from the Vidme servers.
> • All paid channel subscripitions will be suspended immediately, and subscriber-only videos will be exclusively accessible by their video owners.
> • Any outstanding earnings will be paid out upon verification within 60 days.
> • All Vidme paid subscriptions will cease as of today, and subscribers will no longer be billed.
No one used it. The reality is no one actually cares about censorship and all that hoohah. They only care about things that are popular to care about. Youtube censoring videos? No one cares except like a dozen right wing youtubers
Nathan Sanchez
this.
people are so afraid of change that they would rather stay on a crippled but popular platform.
Leo Bell
even the redditors didnt use this shit website for their videos
Carson Rogers
Sad, people were wondering why the staff went silent just a week ago, they were always active before that. I asked a question about a feature they were adding and responded right away that it was on their to-do list. That was 2-3 weeks ago
also there goes one of the Terry archives
Aiden Richardson
Will YouTube ever have viable competition?
Hudson Thompson
I think I used this platform once, and the speeds in yt-dl were slow as heck
Brandon Brown
I think I might of visited this website once, the problem is that it was just youtube without all of googles money and that can't turn a profit. I've always wanted to make a p2p video sharing app to challenge youtube, if it's p2p you don't need money to run it right? a lot of people hate youtube's censorship, ads, demonetization, and copyright policy. They just have no alternative.
Lucas Thompson
Leave Youtube to me.
Aaron Wright
not unless someone invests billions into it from day one.
you will never see a youtube competitor come from some dude in his basement.
Brayden Allen
At least private links can mostly keep copyright takedowns away.
Aaron White
they should have used some new tech to dramatically cut down the hosting costs... for example IPFS
Oliver Rivera
The fact that it never worked in my phone using the browser didn't help.
Wyatt Phillips
They have alternatives. Google is just powerful enough to brainwash people into thinking alternatives don't exist.
Kevin Robinson
I hate defending YouTube, but... their systems are better than what you'd expect from such a website
Isaiah Hill
This is sad
Matthew Cook
P2P does not work for video sharing. Just look at torrents: most torrents are already dead six months later. Only super popular stuff have a lot of seeds after a year or two. >b-b-but muh private trackers Nobody is going to use a platform that requires them to share shit for perpetually or get kicked. Most people don't want/know how to do such a thing. Not to mention that nobody wants to have a crippled connection to share shit.
Joseph Lopez
It used to work like that, and the only way to get taken down was someone manually reporting you.
David Anderson
this, i prefer Vimeo by a long shot but no one watches my stuff there
Carter Walker
IPFS is a p2p protocol that was actually designed for persistent storage of data unlike BitTorrent.
Adam Carter
Nobody can depend solely on a video platform, even YouTube operates at loss.
Evan Brooks
Vimeo has gotten worse too.
If it were half as popular as YouTube it'd be a million times worse, based on what they've done.
Joseph Foster
This is what happens with WhatsApp. It's hell to manage large groups.
Ian Jones
They mentioned P2P so they're probably considering that for their next venture.
Such a shame, I was actually making money in there.
Jason Allen
It worked for many chinese p2p video streaming services, making their clients allocate gigabytes chuck of distributed database on each user's pc.
Jonathan Harris
Youtube has a bunch of competitors. Facebook, twitter, reddit, tumblr, et al. They all want people to stay on their platforms and stop going to youtube and other sites. As bandwidth costs fall and they get bigger, they have all been investing in their own video services.
Sadly, all these big tech companies have the same problems Youtube does. And worse, they don't even share their advertising revenue with creators.
Aaron Allen
Of course they did, video streaming loses money, a shit tone of money.
Only big companies like Google are willing to support the billions of dollars in loses til they figure out how to make it profitable.
David Rogers
I've never heard of this until now and I've spent 10 hours a day on the internet for the last 20 years
Wyatt Anderson
quick someone save the porn
Brandon Lee
Video streaming is expensive as fuck and doesn't make money.
Jack Hernandez
>hailed as YouTube challenger, lel it was no where close to being as good as YouTube, and that's saying something
Nolan Mitchell
Time to download all my videos I posted there. Is Pewtube good?
Carson Phillips
>tfw just get a white screen visiting youtube while using LibreJS before you ask, it is entirely possible to use Sup Forums with LibreJS by using Sup Forums X
Nicholas Green
I watch your stuff there
Jose Allen
P2P does not work for anything... except maybe Linux distros.
This isn't the early 2000s anymore.
Hudson Long
>Sadly, all these big tech companies have the same problems Youtube does. And worse, they don't even share their advertising revenue with creators. every rich company and every rich person has made their fortune by exploiting other people
Not that it matters. Another centralized site wasn't the solution to the problems with Youtube anyway.
Juan Morales
Just took a peek, I wouldn't want to watch videos on a website with ~make money on advertisements~ as one of their core drawing features. Seems like it was doomed from the start.
Michael Fisher
>not unless someone invests billions into it from day one. and not make profit
Robert Murphy
>P2P does not work for video sharing I use popcorn time everyday. People would seed for people they like.
Jordan Martinez
What are some popular p2p video streaming websites?
What about Vidlii? Is it, dare I say, /our/ video platform?
Daniel Mitchell
Vidlii for old YouTube type videos and entertainment and Bitchute for informative videos. Best combo for a YouTube alternative.
Eli Sullivan
What if there was a video indexing site that had spiders to find videos all over the web? A meta video site
Jack Bennett
little kids didn't know what vid me was.
Ian Brown
So, exactly what Google/Bing Videos does?
Jack Flores
They only have a handful of video sites to search. They don't serch every video on the web
Christian Gomez
That takes me back to 2007
Aiden Gutierrez
Would it be reasonable for a content creator to host his videos on his own site? Or would that be prohibitively expensive for someone like a let's-player with literally thousands of multi-gibibyte, 1080p, 60-fps vides?
Kevin Rodriguez
people are mouth breathing retarded sheep that take the path of least resistance, that's the only reality you can really take from this
Grayson Hughes
SOMEONE CALL JASON SCOTT QUICK
Eli Barnes
There should be a GNU/Tube
-minimalistic, simple HTML design -video always played by the browsers' video element -requires little JS and that JS is free as in freedom -supports downloading, streaming and background play -no ads and analytics -video and audio stored in free as in freedom patent-free formats -360p only, no bloat
Zachary Harris
You could do it with a very small video size, or with less data and a different release structure (fewer much longer videos), but the blog-like format of youtube video uploads can only work with youtube (because google can write off the losses).
Will never happen. Video is far too expensive to serve in comparison to text or even images.
Gabriel Robinson
>Would it be reasonable for a content creator to host his videos on his own site? Sure. Depends on his fans. Are the marketable? Is the content suitable to market? How much will fans donate? >Or would that be prohibitively expensive for someone like a let's-player with literally thousands of multi-gibibyte, 1080p, 60-fps vides? It would probably be, for him. Let's play watchers are mostly kids, so they probably can't pay for patron. On the other hand they are too stupid to use adblock/use iPad where adblock is not avaliable.
Juan Martin
Video is a meme anyway. By its very nature (due to the size, and comparative difficulty to share) it relies almost entirely on large, centralised, platforms.
Repent now! Return to plain-text!
Zachary Campbell
Dailymotion has a ton of potential, if only people were to use it.
William Edwards
>"Hey let's compete with the huge video platform that hasn't made any profit since it launched and only exists because googles fat wallet keeps it on life support. Surely nothing will go wrong and we'll going to be successful"
Bentley Carter
how would you pay for servers? Idk the last time youve been on youtube without an adblock on but it rapes you with ads. HD video and lots of viewers needs $$.
Nicholas Murphy
same
Leo Watson
what a shame
Aiden Gray
When computer power and storage is cheap enough and we've hit the upper limit of what resolution people will ever want to watch, then maybe YouTube will be replaced by some FOSS alternative.
But then, I'm sure the next big thing (like immersive VR) will come along requiring a bunch more power/storage.
Brody Richardson
>meanwhile dailymotion is still alive
Jason Parker
Why can't the frenchies get it together? It's been in Youtube's shadow for 11 years.
They hired 200 engineers to redesign the site but no one seems to give a shit. And they discontinued their livestream service last month out of the blue.
Austin Reyes
Pornhub has all the infrastructure and resources to be a youtube competitor like tomorrow. Their site already does a better job at displaying related content. There's so much potential if only the current owners would take the plunge and open a non-porn version. They could have a billion dollar market.
Juan Cruz
They started to censor their content just like YouTube, which ruined the one thing that made it a viable competitor. Then, a bunch of german autists flooded the website with videos nobody cares about and it became and that was the end.
Oliver Gonzalez
>They started to censor their content just like YouTube How so?
Charles Jenkins
They froze the politics section for a while, and when they finally unfroze it all of the most popular videos never actually appeared on the front page namely because they were about politics. The moral of the story is don't cuck if you're already an underdog.
Jaxson Reed
What about a federated video sharing platform combined with WebTorrent?
Aaron Thompson
Pornhub is full of movies. Netflix, youtube, etc are all blocked at work but not pornhub for some reason. Watched a bunch of movies there, wolf of wall street, pulp fiction, gravity, the martian.
Aiden Johnson
This is why you use private trackers. They have the biggest archives of any media and everything is well seeded.
Eli Johnson
Video hosting on the Internet is a losing proposition unless you have endless money to burn like Google/Youtube or Apple
Kayden Walker
How do you find them though? I mean searching for wolf of wall street does not give you the movie, and movies where they have sex scenes, the only results are the sex scenes or parodies.
Bentley Hill
Vimeo has a bit of sweet spot though. It has a pretty niche use for artists and independent filmmakers.
I wish I could use it more but it's so fucking hard to find things on there.
Levi Williams
No. There were multiple attempts, with a lot of them being better than it and they all failed. The only way it would realistically be possible at this point was if all big and a lot of the smaller Youtubers collectively said fuck it and moved to another platform.
But that's never going to happen because that means they would make less money. At least for quite a bit until the new site catches on. So instead every Youtuber does the usual, constantly shitting on the site but also never actually trying to change anything because they make easy money on there.
Charles King
They do have a chance of making money with hundreds of thousands of wannabe e-celebs willing to grant extremely permissive licenses for their 'content' to glorified video hosts.
