For suggestions on programs that aren't bloat refer to suckless.org/rocks
Acceptable GNU/Linux distributions that aren't bloat
Gentoo Debian(NET ISO) Void(Hipster but werks) Alpine(Pretty damn minimal)
Another protip to keep your system minimal is to keep your package count lower than 999.
Get recommendations to see if your system is bloat or not >OS >DE/WM >Video/Music player >Image viewer >File Manager >Text Editor >Shell >Web Browser >Terminal
Protip: If you aren't comfortable with the terminal or aren't proficient with GNU/Linux this thread isn't for you.
A nice quote "Minimalism = A very good thing" Too much of something is never good."
vis - vi-like editor using Lua and structural regexes commands, I'm quite fighting with configurations and there isn't an ecosystem with plugins yet, probably gonna have to find the IRC to lurk on and get some help github.com/martanne/vis
ffplay - tool that comes with ffmpeg for playing videos and music
signify/minisign - cryptographic signatures with short Ed25519, no keyserver ecosystem, just plain keys about the same length as PGP fingerprints, signify originates from OpenBSD, minisigh is clone for dnscrypt. Can sign Tar archives using its header field, this is pretty handy. jedisct1.github.io/minisign/
upspin - solution for remove filesystem sharing by Rob Pike and collective. This isn't just protocol for remote filesystem as 9P is, but rather full solution with encryption, keyservers and good control over who can access it. Has drivers to mount the remote filesystem thus applications do not need a special network client plugin, just operate on files. upspin.io/ youtube.com/watch?v=ENLWEfi0Tkg
>Another protip to keep your system minimal is to keep your package count lower than 999. Package count is a retarded measure for minimalism.
Hunter Evans
There is no minimalist browser that works with modern web, even suckless surf uses the webkit2gtk which they hate
Easton Walker
True but if you need to get work done, you need to get work done. It doesn't have to be lower 999. But Lower than 999 is ideal.
Jaxson Parker
>modern web Yeah, thats why i chose firefox.
Joseph Rivera
Why emacs isn't minimal?
Ayden Peterson
openbsd rio from plan9port mpv; acme+ffplay plan9port's jpg/png/gif sam, ed acme rc, ksh surf st
btw vim/nano are absolutely harmful, so is Mozilla Firefox. Linux is considered harmful too, but so is BSD to somewhat less extent. harmful.cat-v.org/software/firefox nice name collision with vis program they have everything one could need
Kevin Brooks
Depending on how packages are made, you can have less bloat with more packages.
William Price
I might add openbsd to the OS chart.
Adrian Thompson
Can i livestream with openbsd? Does openbsd have obs?
Colton Jenkins
obs = bloat and harmful shit. ffmpeg will work though.
Camden Morales
>ffmpeg will work though. Very interesting. Can i stream youtube from ffmpeg? Can i also have a facecam with ffmpeh
Wyatt Ross
Yes you can, youtube uses RTMP which ffmpeg supports. i think ffmpeg supports layering media but im not sure about that.
It's simplest screen recorder you can ask for, I've also seen some guides to stream on twitch etc., but can't point a good source without trying.
Jason Watson
any solution for navigating lines with up/down arrows in acme or you just dealt with it?
Elijah Murphy
>suckless.org/rocks >browsers >no firefox >post has firefox Why are people recommending firefox now? I switched because of all the bloat in firefox. Is that no longer the case anymore?
Ryan Morales
i dont have up/down arrows imo clicking on the scrollbar is fine.
Luis Gomez
>ffmpeg will work though. ffmpeg does not have canvas composing so if one of your inputs goes dead so does the stream.
Jaxson Garcia
I'm loooking at the arch wiki. Theres something called ffserver. Is that the thing that connects my stream to youtube?
Jacob Ortiz
Actually has extenions like ublock origin and umatrix
Henry Rogers
Go ahead and use qutebrowser or surf or what ever the fuck. I don't have all the anwsers cuck.
Zachary Carter
touch screen or weird keyboard?
Adrian King
whats the best password manager? I am currently using Keepass
Austin Hill
It's deprecated. You can use normal ffmpeg to stream to youtube: ffmpeg -re -i input.mp4 -vcodec libx264 -acodec aac -f flv -rtmp_buffer_size 64k rtmp://youtubelive.etc
Thomas Bailey
>felt for the harmful meme
Juan Ross
Surprisingly sane list in that image. It's mostly stuff I'm using. Why not also list ranger under file managers, though? I use Thunar mostly, but I want to move to ranger.
Grayson Ross
ffserver is the opposite. it serves. you just use plain rtmp for connection from regular ffmpeg 60% are quite popular
Carson Rivera
Brain or a text file that is encrypted.
Tyler Moore
Is that really the command? Also isn't there more to it? I heeard in youtube there is something called the streamkey you need to put into obs
Angel Howard
Yeah its sane and minimal. I didn't want to go full autismo
William Russell
It's part of the output address. I was lazy about adding all this: rtmp://a.rtmp.youtube.com/live2/43ax-g2g2-y2bb-clkq The gibberish at the end is whatever key you find in the Ingestion Settings tab depending on the resolution you pick. There are more settings possible, depending if you need to do any adjustments on your input, or at what bitrate you want to send your video/audio.
Landon Jenkins
>It's deprecated. Thats the arch wiki is shit and vague
Parker Taylor
why*
Alexander Lee
How do you know all this. Also how would i add the facecam
Jace Martinez
>How do you know all this I have been using ffmpeg for various purposes for several years now. It does the job most of the time.
As you can see this requires quite a lot of shit to read. If you want to get shit done, it may be more sensible to use OBS.
Brayden Edwards
Want to use Firefox, but qutebrowser is just so much better. All it needs is more privacy plugins.
Benjamin Cruz
Wizards assemble !
Advanced users of GNU/Linux (and I mean advanced), remember to try Source Mage GNU/Linux. True source-based distribution, and (in contrast with Gentoo and Arch) is: Free from obfuscated and pre-configured code. Fully committed to GPL, uses only free software (as in freedom) in their main package. With even the documentation licensed as FDL. Without 3rd party patches, sensible defaults or masked packages. Doesn't need obfuscated python libraries, only bash. Use clean dependencies as they came from upstream developers, which by the same provides instant updates. Can heal broken installs. Can also use flags.
Do you like Arch Linux's AUR? Do you like Gentoo's portage (or ports-like) package manager? With SMGL's "sorcery" you get all that. Making new spells (packages) not found in the grimoire (repository) is easy sourcemage.org/Spell/Book
An I missing anything if I use cmus over mpd+mcnpcpcpcp? Can I still get a visualizer?
Logan Roberts
Working on a full terminal based environment to use in my server, low end machines also benefit. I search for alternative applications that work in either text only interface, ncurses, or the framebuffer. I am not writing anything the tools are already there, is just a matter of configuration. For example the window manager replacement I use is GNU Screen but there are other alternatives like Twin or any terminal multiplexer of your linking, also fbterm to use fonts on tty and set a wallpaper. Also for spreadsheets there is slsc, for word processor (not text editor) there is WordGrinder that can edit ODT files.
I made MPlayer work! Can now watch videos on the TTY. Currently tweaking a window manager and framebuffer resolution.
I have planned a full desktop environment and this is one of the steps. Anybody doing something similar wants to join?
Ryder Brown
>void >hipster die
Landon Myers
>60% that's pretty sexy, user
Jose Murphy
>gpl >bash ewwwwwwwwwww
Noah Nguyen
t. cuck
Gabriel Cooper
mpd runs as a daemon so you can close ncmpcpp and still have your music playing or open 30 different clients and still interact with the same mpd server. you can close your xserver for example, it just feels much more comfy for me and more minimal since you don't need a client to interact with it.
Nicholas Perry
>runs as a daemon so does mocp and is much more easy to setup and navigation is blazing fast
Jason Thompson
Debian 9 XFCE Music from phone computer is for work Images - fuq dat Thurnar or Terminal depends Learning Vim and emacs now nano Shells Firefox Terminal - whatever goes don't really care
Levi Smith
Give me a live usb distro with de/wm bloat free
Cameron Wilson
alpine.
Daniel Lee
which editor is next to vim?
Oliver Morgan
Vim such a pita might as well try it.
Josiah Mitchell
>OS Debian sid, switching to Devuan soon. >DE/WM I use both i3 and xfce for different occassions >video/music player VLC/Youtube >File Manager PcManFm >text editor VSCode >shell zsh >Web Browser ff quantum >Terminal DE default terminal, both urxvt and st are for retarded ants.
>>OS switching between arch and ubuntu mate(not so much mate anymore) >>DE/WM i3 >>Video/Music player cmus/vlc >>Image viewer Not sure I think default is currently Shotwell Viewer >>File Manager thunar >>Text Editor vim >>Shell Bash >>Web Browser iridium / firefox / chromium >>Terminal urxvt
Luis Hernandez
>using alpine for anything but cloud containers
Isaac Anderson
>firefox
Benjamin Wood
yuck, i bet oyu have no friends
Xavier Evans
Damn you, PR sector.
Brandon Lee
You gonna post the template?
Nathan Cruz
>OS Manjaro >DE/WM xfce for the win >video/music player mpv moc/foobar2k >File Manager thunar >text editor still searching one >shell bash >Web Browser chromium >Terminal xfce terminal
Nathaniel Carter
isn't termite smaller than urxvt
Andrew Mitchell
>OS Arch >DE/WM i3 >Video/Music player VLC/ncmpcpp >Image viewer feh >File Manager ranger >Text Editor vim. But I need intellij for java >Shell bash >Web Browser firefox >Terminal urxvt
Arch was my first distro but I didn't get into ricing/minimalism until a couple months ago. What's the best way to get rid of dependencies that I don't need anymore? I would always pacman -R stuff I didn't need but completely forgot about the dependencies that were installed.
>OS Void >DE/WM bspwm and WindowMaker >Video/Music Player mpv for video, mpd + sonata and ncmpcpp for music >Image Viewer feh >File Manager pcmanfm and mc >Text Editor Vim >Shell bash >Web Browser Firefox and links >Terminal urxvt
If you need a graphical environment you're already bloated.
Thomas Nguyen
>OS Ubuntu 17.10 >DE/WM i3 (recently switched, it's amazing) >Video/Music player cmus (still haven't had the need for a video player) >Image viewer ranger with w3m. Ubuntu's preview thing. >File Manager ranger/Ubuntu's file manager >Text Editor vim, learning emacs now, Rider for day to day work. Plan is to learn emacs (with evil) well and use it in conjuction with Rider for Unity3D work. You know, use the best tools for the job >Shell fish >Web Browser firefox with vimperator but I'm not switching to qutebrowser >Terminal Ubuntu's default gnome terminal. Still haven't decided what to switch to.
Justin Green
*now switching to qutebrowser. So far so good, need to start playing around with it and configure it
Luis Wright
>OS macOS >DE/WM i3-gaps >Video/Music player mpv/mpd+ncmpcpp >Image viewer Finder's built in thing >File Manager Terminal >Text Editor vim >Shell zsh >Web Browser Chromium >Terminal urxvt
Jacob Bennett
I'm honestly waiting until per domain settings are made so noscript like features can be implemented
Cooper Smith
How are you doing this on Mac? Are you just running X11 server? How's the experience moving from X11 to mac apps? I ask because I would need to run many mac apps, wouldn't be able to go fully terminal.
Jack Cox
>How are you doing this on Mac? What do you mean? >Are you just running X11 server? Yes, running an X11 server is necessary for running an X window manager. >How's the experience moving from X11 to mac apps? 4-finger swipe. I just keep them on separate workspaces, but I spend most of my time in i3.
Caleb Peterson
Sorry, meant like were you running X or a VM.
OSX is an ideal OS for me because Im a mobile game programmer by trade. This setup you're describing doesn't sound bad. I tried something similar with Windows and WSL but back then it was still in beta and certain things with tmux weren't working. I might give it another go now that it's out of beta. I really like Ubuntu though. I need to make up my mind soon though because I'm planning on purchasing a System76. Apple computers just suck though... sigh
Josiah James
nano
David Miller
theres is a reason why arch isn't there. It's BLOAY
Gabriel Torres
BLOAT**
James Robinson
>Minimal guide Forgets CRUX
Easton Baker
crux? use lfs bitch. Memes aside look at the quote in op's post
Justin Stewart
thoughts about ranger? its quite a comfy fm once you configure some previews and get some custom binds for setting background and such. problem is its python, could be a lot better but I'm currently not aware of anything that'd fully replace it, mainly on the preview supporting part. >inb4 just use shell, I like my previews, they're too useful
Charles Sanchez
>thoughts about ranger?
For suggestions on programs that aren't bloat refer to suckless.org/rocks
File managers
mc - Midnight Commander is a free cross-platform orthodox file manager ranger - ranger is a file manager with vi key bindings written in python but with an interface that rocks
Bentley Bennett
>look at the quote in op's pos What am I looking for exactly?
Noah Bennett
>Minimal guide Forgets CRUX
Quote "Minimalism = A very good thing Too much of something is never good."
Carter Turner
Are you implying that CRUX is TOO minimal?
Kayden Taylor
No, its just gay. No one uses it. Deal with it pussy.
Elijah Adams
Argumentum ad populum, perhaps?
Benjamin Hill
God i want that pepe to fuck my ass. Mmmmmm
Leo Richardson
one thicc toad
Charles Reyes
>sxiv > feh This.
Mason Reyes
>I have been using ffmpeg for various purposes for several years now.
yeah its a lot of reading and shit. But this question is important. Would my stream be more better and faster by using ffmpeg ?
Justin Long
>OS void, alpine on the laptop >DE/WM spectrwm, fluxbox on laptop >Video/Music player mpv for video, mpd+ncmpcpp for music >Image viewer feh >File Manager shell >Text Editor vim >Shell bash, ash on laptop >Web Browser chromium until i can login to discord on ff w/o it crashing, w3m on laptop >Terminal urxvt
PapeMoon is basically the suckless philosophy applied to Firefox, OP: palemoon.org/info.shtml
Jonathan Cox
palemoon isnt in gentoo or debian repo's fuck outta my face.
Jaxson Russell
Debian's default repos are a joke. You should know by now that practically every project hosts it's own repos for that nonsense: linux.palemoon.org >Additionally, Pale Moon is included in and can be installed directly from the default repositories of the following distros: >... >Gentoo Overlays
BTFO
Joshua Price
Additionally, Pale Moon is included in and can be installed directly from the default repositories of the following distros:
Manjaro
>manjaro ewwwwwwwwwwwww
Julian Davis
Ranger has full previewing. You can easily preview code, markdown, images, html, pdf, tar, zip, and anything else you can think of. You can either preview and also just have it open in a program of your choice. You can also easily specify which program you're going to use. Image previewing in ranger is easy to setup on most terminals, including iTerm2 on OSX and Gnome Terminal on Ubuntu. Some are better than others though.
