Your opinion on "the internet of things"?

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The S in IOT stands for security.

I don't like IOT being baked into every new home appliance, but I'm not going to lie its kind of fun to hook raspberry pis up to things and do stuff with the GPIO.

it's gay

I can watch porn on my watch, my fridge, my washing machine, and probably a lightbulb too!

It's stupid nonsense for people in the upper middle class to waste their money on. And the government loves it to spy on you.

The truly wealthy basically live in SCIFs these days when they're not actively using a computer for something. Analog can't spy on you with CIA malware.

it's bad
most things in general are bad

lole

Buzzwords.

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It's going to be even more fun with GPUs at the edges machine-learning everything.
When my car knows it's me from the way my fat ass sits in the seat, that's when I know I'm truly in the future.

Awful concept. 'Internet of things' things will last as long as they're updated by their manufacturer, so about 12 months. I want my fridge and oven etc. to last 2 decades.

existential statement

" it's just the internet of things~ "

I don't know what the fuck it is, can someone hold my hand and explain what it is??

Useful in a commercial or industrial setting.
Gimmicky in for personal use for the most part.

Imagine the worst buggy software you can, then imagine that running your thermostat and fridge, while also being connected to the internet.

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>make post on twitter about a poor experience with a Samshit product
>all that shitposting makes me hungry so I go the kitchen for chicken tendies and dew
>the fridge door won't open and so I tug on it a bit until it starts talking
>"I'm sorry user, I can't let you do that" says the Samdung fridge in a calm female voice
>I begin to cry as it says "do not worry, your tenders are protected with Samsung (TM) Smart Seal (TM) technology"
>Samsung didn't like my comments so they locked me out of my own refrigerator until I send $50 and a letter of apology
>have to hook up SPI programmer to the board of the fridge and Libreboot it
>welcome to 2017 where the botnet wants you to starve

Yeah, and it's hundreds of dollars more expensive than "dumb" appliances. Normalfags are fucking retarded.

Networked, increasingly smart everything.
Your fridge tells you that you're out of peaches, since it knows that you're the only person in the house who likes them.

Largely a waste of time. Take the internet connected kettle or toaster for instance. You have to stand in front of it to fill it with water or load it with bread, and then it becomes easier to press a button to start boiling or slide a lever to start toasting rather than fish out your smartphone. How much of a lazy bastard do people have to be?

Having said that, if some meme company wanted to pay me £££ to bugger around with some microcontroller jazz then i'd do it, and maybe take the opportunity to put some back doors in so you can use non-DRM bread or whatever.

I think the concept for those ones is to pre load everything at night and it rigged to start up with your alarm clock

you don't need internet for that

Any "thing" that has internet, I throw in the trash

Even then the concept fails if you're the kind of person who has to hit the snooze button about 5 times before they finally roll out of their pit, and by then the water has gone cold and so has the toast. The more organised people who actually want that kind of thing could do the same with a cheap non-internet connected timeswitch. Even without all that stuff it's only a 5 minute job at most.

I've just not seen a really compelling IoT idea so far that would make me want to sacrifice my privacy, security and bandwidth, internet kettles and light bulb rental doesn't really cut it.

Litterally this. And surveillance. Now you have a spare processor barely being use everywhere but up your ass,

>DDOS server with army of wireless refrigerators

>since it knows that you're the only person in the house.
FTFY

>He says while posting from his internet enabled device
Neat.

This is where free as in freedom software and open protocols mean something.

I don't want Samsung or google to run my home, but I'd like a Linux server to turn on my lamps with a voice command through an open standard.

Just not the internet part: 2 separates LANs, 1 for phones and pcs, one offline for everything else.

Come one free community, all I've seen is not rocket science, you can do that.

>welcome to 2017 where the botnet wants you to starve
Let's be honest here, you need to spend less time going to the fridge. Maybe look into Librebooting a treadmill you pudgy bastard.

it all works out if you live in trash to begin with

A meme.

Dancing on the grave of the internet.
The /nu/smartphone gimmick.
>IT'S CONNECTED TO TEH INTERWEBZ XXDDDD

>worst korea tech
can't wait for best korea to open source ICBMs

thats why "thing" was in quotes

Why can't you find any that respect your freedom?

Can we agree that smart homes and automation and shit would be a thousand times more exciting and cool without the botnet?

I would love to have my alarm switch on and off automatically based on my phones location, have my fridge send weekly notifications on item consumption and projections of needed amounts, cameras to let me know when my dogs need to pee and being able to remotely open the back door, lights and tvs working with voice commands and a proper home assistant.

But I just can't trust the fucking botnet and I definitely can't trust big multinational corporations with my security and privacy.

*Internet of shit
ftfy

I remember when people used to say this about cell phones.

Obviously, yeah. That's not the way we're heading however, unless you want to DIY things. You could DIY a lot of that, maybe not so much on voice shit, but I've personally felt like pressing buttons was somehow hard or inconvenient.

It's just small Linux systems being built into everything because designing dedicated microcontrollers is expensive. All of them want to be on the Internet so the manufacturer can collect usage metrics to resell to advertisers, and none of them are meaningfully hardened.

You have to physically have something before you can throw it in the trash, mr. grapes.

That's almost as edgy as the people who said the same thing about connecting a computer to the internet.

computation will evolve where it can be incorporated into anything and everything but most iot stuff now is just fucking stupid

i dont want advertising and capitalism in my life

Jewish mind control program to enslave humanity but it won't happen because transhumanism will happen first, actually probably both will happen BECAUSE FUCKING GLOW IN THE DARK CIA NIGGERS AAAAAH

> what could possibly go wrong?

It's the Megaman battle network future.
Devices full of viruses on every step.

>the sink gets botnetted
>h4k3r programs it to not work for minorities

Botnet

If I wanted to control stuff through the internet I'd hack normal appliances to be controlled with a raspberry pi and just use that

the internet of things is a good idea as long as its not used too often or in things which wouldmt even properly benefit from it such as the tap in your image. Used correctly making home devices "smart" could be great but theres a pretty fine line between when its alright and when it goes too far

Some things are made better with the internet, most arent'.

Look at Juicero as a prime example or mashing IOT into things that don't need it.

Can a computer be cursed by black magic, evil spirits or out-of-this reality malwares?

>all these retards posting about smart toilets and fridges
>implying iot starts and ends with household products

A computer is too simple of an antity tohost an evil spirit, or malware from far more advanced civlisations from other dimension, but black magic curses are definitely an option.

Most people never realize they are though, they just keep brosing horrible places like Sup Forums as if it was a perfectly normal thing to do for human beings, never noticing they are being corrupted by their own hardware.

May also cause virginity.

Probably not, but it probably can be plagued by EM issues that are pretty much the same thing.

upboated

Smart toilets? When the west mostly doesn't even have toilets on the level of Japan?

What's the point?

>Maybe look into Librebooting a treadmill you pudgy bastard.

it's called a windows install

>The botnet wants me to die of dehydration

Please present one example of an IoT device that does something useful.

There is no point because you will either say it's not useful or call them a lazy fuck for not wanting to push buttons.

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>how important can it really be then???

Super botnet
youtube.com/watch?v=b0Bt0lkpV_U

I want off this ride.

Nope, not everyone is a manchild like you that wishes to be babied the fuck out on everything. Kill yourself numale.

I have been virgin before it was cool
Spoopy
Ok ok but.... which version gives you AIDS?

Yeah why would I want to automate menial tasks and save myself time to do other shit?

Keep pushing that vaccuum around faggot while my robot does all the work and I get on with other shit.

To be completely honest it has massive potential for Automation if you do it yourself with custom shit.


However all fucking Comercial products are shit and unsecure as fuck due to shit the way they where made and the features that where included.

Thanks for proving the point. There's no need to whip out your phone when the device is in front of you.
The reality is, so long as the internet is based on a advertisement model, it will be user for borderline shady things like >go wash your hands
>have your face logged into a database instead

I'm going to enjoy it when everything goes to hell in a couple of decades, and I end up stuck with shit that actually still works.

Your time is not as important as you think it is. You are not important.

So far, there are zero (0) serious automation solutions to home issues, only gimmicky shit with you the user in the last position in the chain of interests.

Its just not worth the hassle.

I remember looking forward to all this home automation stuff becoming common place.

It seemed so futuristic and cool:
youtu.be/0BHIknNa6Eg

I never anticipated the botnet, now it horrifies me. Now even if you throw out every piece of technology you own everything you do you is still tracked and catalogued. It makes me want to go full Unabomber innawoods

Let's talk about these dubs instead

A dumbass gimmick in the vast majority of cases

>I never anticipated the botnet, now it horrifies me.
Oh how I miss the days before I even knew what a botnet was. I envy those who are ignorant and can actually enjoy life in this world.

Or maybe if you know you tend to hit the snooze button ~3 times on average you plan accordingly? Retard.

>End up hitting snooze button 4 times
>Your toast is cold
>End up hitting snooze button 2 times
>Nothing is done

I have hunch it will be a fad

,then again everyone I know who are home-owners with money to burn are my relatives in their mid-50's, and their idea of tech is having an ice maker integrated into the fridge or a pre-programmed expresso maker. IoT in the broader sense, makes no fucking sense to them.

All the people my age at around 25 are too busy studying or just starting out in the World. So I guess it really depends how this generation plus the one slightly above and below will take it.

I really fucking hope it doesn't become a thing though. I also believe the current political climate is highly volatile when it comes to privacy issues and surveillance, and that's going for leftist redditors and right-wing conservatives, so maybe there will be a movement to reject it as we are more tech-savvy having been brought up with it.

It can be nice when actually warranted. Not sure what purpose a smart faucet serves, I guess you can dispense a measured amount or something but easier to just use my fridge for that which also has the benefit of being filtered. Though I guess you can filter your faucet too but it's more hassley and you're gonna waste your fucking filter washing dishes, and anyway who needs it in the bathroom of all places? This looks like it's in a hotel though so not sure what the deal is, maybe just some fake shit to rile up people like in here.

Also will admit I bought up 20 of those dash buttons when they were a buck each, enjoyed my $100 in Amazon credit (plus $20 in no rush digital credit that I sold to some guy for $15 paypal) and it can be fun sticking them around the house and hooking them up to my Nook HD+ to automate various things.

There is literally nothing wrong with a system like this, as long as it stays entirely offline.

There is one thing I wouldn't be too fond of and that is any type of automated security system for when your away from home even if offline someone could still tap into your wires and unlock the door if the control protocol was unsecure.

Home automation does not have to be a botnet it's just the internet of shit that has made it that way

Nu-male or not, the weekly ritual is somewhat important, as a grounding principle, at least to me. There's a certain satisfaction in cleaning your room, mowing the lawn, for example. I don't think I would voluntarily have this taken away from me. Also for such simple tasks I would rather be self-reliant, less chance of something cocking up.

Does it really bother you guys that much if the botnet knows how many times you flush your toilet or turn on your lights or some shit?

This just seems so mundane and trivial to me as to be a complete non-issue, but then I've never been one of the big privacy buffs anyway.

But the metadata user!
I want to believe I'm not already a part of a soup!

The way I see it as would you want a corporation and by extension the government to know pretty much every thing you do on a daily basis in the what is the most private space you'll ever have that being the inside of your own house.
No outsider and especially no damn company or government should ever really know what goes on inside your house your a fool if you throw that privacy away.

When it comes to "minor" stuff like that, it's more of a bother that companies usually sell the information and make money off of it, and aren't very forthcoming about the fact that they do it.

A company collecting information about the usage of their product purely to assist in development/support of that product is absolutely okay as long as they ask for participation up front. It's absolutely not okay if they don't clearly ask for permission before collecting anything, and it's absolutely not okay if they sell the information to third parties.

It's not merely about how many times the toilet flushes, it's the implications. I don't care if the government keeps a backlog of my poops - the question is rather if I was given a choice to say yes or no, I would rather say no. I wouldn't let my neighbour keep a poop backlog on me, why would I let the government? There's also the issue of the slippery slope, if they are capable of that, then what would they try afterwards.

From poop records to face surveillance in a crowd for political dissenters.

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dont forget paying your isp an extra fridge fee cause of le net neutrality xD

Kek

It's not about smart toilets being part of the botnet, it's about alarms, locks, cameras, etc... being part of the botnet.

Heck even without the botnet, the vast majority of electronic locks can be opened simply by shorting out two wires which are often easily accessible behind conduit boxes, readers and other fittings.

heh