If you want help: >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs: >NO i5 7500/7600K or i7 7700/K. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY COFFEE LAKE >G4560/G4600 for non-gaming (light tasks) or bare minimum gaming builds with a dedicated graphics card >R3 1200 - Budget builds (best with OC + fast RAM) >R5 1600 / i5 8400 - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs >R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper / i7 - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use
RAM: >Current CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal >Before buying RAM for Ryzen, check your Mobo's QVL or look for user reports
Graphics cards: >Consider Vega 56 for a Freesync monitor >Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon) 1080p >GTX 1050Ti and 3GB 1060 are the only reasonably priced cards; 6GB 1060 or 4GB 580 if you want to overpay a little >GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >GTX 1070/Ti and 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced >GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4K) >GTX 1080Ti
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 240GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor
Since the new Ryzen is coming up, does anybody have links to new info?
Michael Lopez
x370 audio quality. contenders; taichi, gigabyte k7, crosshair vi.
what do?
Nicholas Carter
Sold off my 7700K & DDR4 last month for a bit more than I paid for it. Bought a new mic, mouse, webcam and other shit with it instead. When will upgrading actually be worth it? I currently run a 1060 3gb with a 4690k.
I don't know what's wrong with your drive My 2TB BarraCuda is way faster but it is also probably a different design.
Jose Stewart
Probably next generation
Brayden Butler
Fuck
Gabriel Rivera
Well that's why I was planning on just buying a new drive to see if everything will be okay.
Because 1mbs read/write doesn't sound right at all when loading games.
Adam Wood
>turn pc I built for the firt time on >comes on, feel fucking amazing >doesn't have a dvd player so have to buy a usb tomorrow when the stores are open Sheeit
Leo Johnson
japanese sand grinders told the world they would be charging a lot more for sand grinding in the next few years. So, you've done goofed, unless you sold spare parts only for those knicknacks.
Jordan Wood
a used 4790k would be a decently cheap upgrade otherwise ryzen probably, or wait for better cost:perf from intel depending on your budget
Christian Sanders
I recently set up a corsair h60 in my comp and in the manual it said to set it up on the rear as an intake whats the best way to set it up
Kevin Miller
Best build right here guys, fuck covfefe lake and poozen, just buy this and your set for the net 15 years.
What's your case? Having a cooler as an intake will push hot air into your system.
Tyler Murphy
An ibuypower trace case its a prebuilt im fucking around with
Gabriel Reed
I just realized I need a cooler for my 1700x. Suggestions? I got a full tower so size isn't an issue and I'm going with that Crossfire VI Hero, so it needs to not get in the way of that ram or anything else.
And depending on the cooler, a suggestion of number of fans would be nice. Would I still need two intakes and two outtake fans be fine still or would I need to reduce the number of them, for example.
Wyatt Brooks
I have no idea what im doing idk what the best orientation for the aio and fans should be. Right now i have the AIO set up as intake and exhaust fans on the top.
Mason Lee
Why the fuck did you plan on upgrading a 4790k to a 7700k?
1st one has swappable HDD rack for easy multiboot.
2nd has no front bays, but it has front pannel HDMI port for Vive, which I plan on using. And since I'm not swapping HDDs I could add SSD to it too. with only $60 extra.
I haven't tried dual boot with a new mobo yet. Is it easy to configure in the bios? How is it handled? does the mobo bios completely turn off SATA ports for HDDs that aren't in use by the OS? Or will I be able to access all HDDs connected while dual booting, which might cause software/OS issues.
Christian Johnson
This pic reminds me of the people who constantly go on about how higher RAM speed is negated by higher latencies, (which is true) but forget that it's not negated completely and benchmarks prove higher speed RAM more than compensates for the higher latencies in practice.
Hunter Cooper
It's best to have intake near the bottom or the front, and exaust near the top or the back, because the cool air will be lower and also further away from your components and the warm air will be higher up and around your components. NH-D15 is ideal for power and complete silence, but any cooler over $40 would probably work for it. Read comparisons on noise and temperatures between models.
Mason Adams
How do I get this down to $300? Its for a friend and he is a retard so it has to be micro center. pcpartpicker.com/list/V2NywV
William Gutierrez
Tell him not to buy a computer holy shit
Levi Sanchez
Should i set up the aio as an exhaust regardless of what the manual says then?
Liam Myers
Buy used. Buying a dirt cheap PC new is dumb, especially with RAM prices.
Robert Flores
Yes, because with a 120mm rad you are going to want as little temperature as you can get.
Robert Garcia
4690k. Got the 7700K extremely cheap.
Christopher Morgan
I've had 2 Seagate drives for years, but I always see people hating on them here. Is there a better brand of hard drive that I should be getting? Also, are hard drives bigger than 1 TB more prone to failing?
James Diaz
I need more HDD space... only 3TB out of 8TB left :(
Evan Garcia
Dont rads preform better as intakes?
Hunter Hall
So I am putting together a PC for my cousin for Christmas this year. I have most of the parts besides the CPU and RAM, I bought an am4 board but cant decide if i should get an x4 950 or spend more for an r3 1200. based on benchmarks ive seen the x4 950 is only slightly behind the g4560 , im on a budget and got most of the things cheaper then listed pcpartpicker.com/list/ZtdFBP
the R7 360 was only 40$ brand new and the mobo was 27$, also where to git cheapest ram
Brayden Johnson
The SSO2 D-Type that's 94 dollars, right? Not the absurd 200 dollar one I'm seeing.
I assume I have to grab the am4 adapter kit too.
Isaiah Hill
create a usb bootable?
Luis Gray
I hope you realize that devs are ditching support for that CPU architecture right? It doesn't support newer instructions.
My temps for everything are fine now having it set up as intake and that with only one exhaust fan. idles around 25-28 Celsius on cpu gpu around 34 Celsius. Im assuming adding some intake in the front of the case and more exhaust on the top would only help. So im conflicted whether i should flip it or not
Lincoln Rogers
New shitter here about to start building. I've watched 4 different PC building videos from start to finish and I want to make sure I'm prepared.
Here are the notes I made on ways you can completely fuck your entire build. Am I missing anything, and what steps should I pay special care to and absolutely take my time and focus because guides maybe overlook the potential disaster?
>at any and all points of assembly; static >getting fingerprints or in any way touching not the side of the CPU >inserting CPU at a slight angle, too hard too soft, or having it not perfectly aligned when you press the lever down >inserting ram at the wrong angle, too hard, too softly, or the wrong facing >putting the cooling unit on too tight, or not tight enough >applying too much, too little, or moving too much after applying the thermal compound >installing the motherboard IO shield improperly or not setting up its prongs right and having it stick in the inputs and fry the circuit >bolting the motherboard down with the incorrect amount of force and causing it to b too lose and crack, or too tight and crack >when inserting any of the cables that connect to the motherboard, inserting them incorrect direction or slot and damaging the pins >not securing any of the drives properly and having them vibrate and damage themselves or other components >inserting and securing the graphics card improperly and bending/snapping the inserts >poor cable management throughout that will cause the build to catch fire after X weeks of use due to poor ventilation
Did I miss anything else that I absolutely should keep close attention to?
Matthew Carter
Whatever you do, keep in mind that a positive case air pressure is better because if the air in your case is forcing itself out then your fans can achieve the same temperatures at lower RPMs. So if you keep your radiator as intake, you should have that and at least as many other intake fans as you do for exaust. For example, 2 fans on exaust and your radiator along with 2 other fans on intake.
Daniel Sullivan
These are all problems that would matter 20 years ago but you have a 95% chance of not breaking anything if you go in blind.
Jack Lopez
So how do I get my ps4 controller to work for steam? I mean it detects it but sometimes the inputs fuck up. On windows 10 by the way.
Ayden Davis
You probably need drivers
Aaron Ward
Do you know which ones? I'm pretty sure I've downloaded all my motherboard ones.
Isaac Peterson
user i'm a complete retard and had anons in this thread help me build my pc by telling me which parts. After I got all the parts I watched two different youtube video guides and was able to build mine easy. The only thing that I fucked up on was not putting the graphics card in right but that was an easy fix.
Henry Brown
I was thinkimg controller drivers, but I looked it up and support is still in beta right now.
Ethan Barnes
So steam can't handle ps4 controller yet. I'm guessing I have to find a 3rd party program then? Or should I just buy a wired xbox1 controller? Or any other good controllers you can recommend?
Christian King
I believe that the program DS4Windows could help you. Otherwise, you would have to get an xbone/360 controller.
Matthew Lee
>steam can't handle ps4 controller yet I've definitely played numerous games on steam with my ps4 controller. If steam itself doesn't support it, the game(s) must?
Justin Green
The issue is that games favor xinput, and steam support is still in beta (as far as I know).
Isaac Taylor
I tried playing witcher3 but my ps4 was bugging and wouldn't let me select some things. Did you go in big picture mode or regular?
So I guess I'll get ds4windows since I think the wired xbone controllers are a bit expensive.
So yeah I have to install a 3rd party driver or something righ t?
Logan Murphy
How important is the difference between UDIMM and RDIMM? Would you ever consider unbuffered?
> ddr3 over production, decreased demand price fell.
> ddr4 mfg learned.. kept supply at low to steady state. now increased demand and steady state supply so increased prices.
Adam Morales
Piledriver was a mess. It probably will hold you back at 1080p.
James Green
Whats a cost effective way to set up storage, without shit being unbelievably slow? Are HDDs dead tech yet? Are M2 mounted sdds overpriced shit?
Please help.
Henry Nguyen
Hmm ok, i guess ill just get an i7 2600k then.
Dylan Garcia
It depends on your budget. You could RAID 0 two hard drives for double the speeds (but also a quite high failure rate, make sure to get very reliable drives and do backups) if you have basically no money. You can get a 500GB SSD for $130. Optane I guess but it's Intel exclusive and only boosts frequebtly used programs.
Logan Peterson
I'd spend the extra 40$ on the R3 1200
Hunter Moore
No and no. >Platters are still great, they aint going away ever. Fairly priced. >SSD prices are accessible now, you can afford a storage amount that wont be full from windows 10 allocation. >RAM is expesive. >CPU/MOBO are real cheap.
Cost effective would be a 200ish GB main SSD with whatever external or internal platter size you can afford.
Justin Kelly
This is way too cheap to be good in any way If it's for gaming seriously just get a console
Kayden Moore
Why hasn't the logical increments site updated for coffee lake?
Brandon Phillips
Logical Increments is trash It's based on price instead of performance
Jackson Perez
Price matters unless you're a top % jew, user.
Kayden Flores
I mean it in a bad way It combines parts not because they work together but because they have similar costs. Like telling you to het 8GB of RAM with a 1600 and 16 with a 1600x even though you should have 16 either way. Also telling you to buy a cooler for the 1600, which you certainly can but if you aren't overclocking that's downright retarded.
Anything below the 1050ti range isn't worth buying, and anything above a 1070 and you shouldn't be looking at this sort of site. Things like CPU, storage, case, cooler are all up to you and a site will get it wrong 90% of the time.
Juan Morgan
Platter drives if you want to store a library of movies/music. Many don't need that.
Luis Roberts
On top of that, parts are labeled at MSRP and things like the Vega 56 would be way higher if they were in stock.
>> ddr3 over production, decreased demand price fell. This is literally wrong. DDR3 price has gone up too.
Xavier Young
Will an M.2 SSD give better results than a SATA SSD with an 1600x?
Eli Ward
Get full Windows or OEM from Kinguin Looks great otherwise M.2 is a form factor, not a protocol. There are AHCI and NVMe M.2 drives. The results depend on the application. For scratch disk or work with heavy reads/writes, NVMe drives are superior. For daily/gaming use, NVMe is equal or barely better.
Jaxon Long
I ordered an 8700k would getting a 1080 ti over a 1070 ti be worth the extra money since I already have a beast CPU, or would getting a 1070 ti be a better idea since I'm probably only going with a 1080p monitor because 4k monitor prices make me sad.
Aiden Roberts
Full windows? You mean Pro? OEM? These are alien words to me, please spoonfeed. I've never bought windows before, always pirated but its a damn hassle nowadays.
Zachary Reyes
Why was the 1060 the only one to not get a Ti?
John Cruz
>Sixti It did
Jason Watson
I ordered parts and the retail guy told me he could assemble it for 75 european dollars, windows license included
Is this shady?
Brayden Morris
Build it yourself.
Parker Peterson
What do you think of manirelli's latest modest gaming build?
But if I buy windows Ill end up spending more myself and at least I'll know it'll be done well
Adrian Foster
Is there a list of games that utilize 6 cores or more?
Adrian Martinez
OEM is for businesses who put together PCs like Dell. This isn't as flexible since these aren't meant to be upgraded and any customer support is supposed to go to the OEM, depending on how Microsoft feels. Pro is mostly useless.
Gavin Ramirez
Simply terrible.
>at least I'll know it'll be done well What makes you think that? A friend of mine is a giant retard and keeps ordering from """"professional"""" PC builders, and its always the same shit, no cable management, fans on the wrong way, etc. The professionals don't give a shit and just want to get the job done quickly.
Zachary Nguyen
It's more of a spectrum than a list. Some games can utilise one core at 100%, and the rest at 20%.
Noah Collins
This, I am pumped as fuck about my 8700k, even though I know its overkill for all of what I'll use it for right now
Ryder Baker
Well is there a way of telling which? If I'm going to get a 6-core CPU, I want to know the games it'll benefit.
Jack Martinez
Most will not in all honesty. At least not noticeably, unless you just have the money to burn or you have a 300 series mobo, it's not really worth it.
Joseph Evans
Ok, does that mean there is not a list?
Hudson Evans
It's fine. Basically the same thing as the Midrange 1080p build in the OP. But there's no HDD
Pretty much all AAA new games.
1070Ti is fine for 1080p 144Hz
Looks good
>It combines parts not because they work together but because they have similar costs Correct. LI has a good concept but poor execution in its current form.
480-512GB has a pretty good price/GB I'm thinking about updating the some of the builds in OP to include that size SSD. I'd have to move away from the m.2 form factor in those builds though.
I'm not even amused
No just OC to 3,9
How the hell do you "not put the graphics card in right"?
Pretty trash build. Basically a good way to waste money May as well get the Athlon because he'll be ditching everything except the RAM and HDD when he wants to upgrade and the 360 is an extremely weak card so you'll be graphics bottlenecked anyway Look for a sale/good price on 3000-3200MHz RAM so he can at least keep that
Consoles have 8 cores, so all new games that need CPU power can use the 6 you're getting.
Nathan Brooks
What intel gen competed against the fx series? And shortly after what intel cpu was there that would still work with win7 that was more than quad core?
Thinking about swapping boards and chips off a 8350 for its intel equivalent for gaming/multitasking such as streaming. Hoping to just need to swap a board and chip since I already have a RX 480.
Nicholas Perez
can a 1060 6gb handle a 144hz 1080p monitor? do I need a cpu cooler for the i5 8400?
Kayden Parker
3200 DDR4 CL10 when? or is it possible?
Anthony Reyes
Really it depends on particular models. If you don't want to bother researching the model (if the data even exists publicly) just get HGST 1.5 and 3TB are prone to failure but the above comment applies
Used components Go caseless Find a HDD at Goodwill Swap to GT 1030 if it's cheaper I know you want your friend to get on PC, so what you actually need to do is find a used Optiplex with a Haswell i5 or i7 and put in a 1050 or 1050Ti
Noah Peterson
Is this a joke?
Aiden Collins
Looks pretty damn good, but get the 2TB BarraCuda. 1. Not on ultra/new games 2. No; stock is fine.
