Arch vs Antergos

Arch users:
>hurr durr there is only one way to do things and if you are noob gtfo
Antergos users:
>Pacman and the power of RR should be learned to everyone, i am ready to instruct new linux users.

Manjaro users:
>It just werks

at the cost of bleed edge

Antergos:
> thinks it is a distro when it's only a custom repository on top of Arch official ones

Arch:
> Teaches you how to build your system and is the real distro.

More like

Arch users:
>hey user, I see you like Arch/Antergos too, that's pretty neat, even though the distro you use doesn't matter the AUR is quite comfy

Antergos users:
>XDDDDDD Archfags hate their lives and make the whole installation needlessly difficult to impress other archfags... Antergos is superior and anyone who uses anything else is a fucking cunt

Manjaro users:
>Well that took 50 minutes to install but it's okay because I didn't have to type anything, and oh yeah I get to have a rolling release that's STABLE unlike you retarded archfags, I don't care that you think packages are stable on Arch because devs test them before updating because on my system there is even more testing before release, yeah, I'm cool fuck you Arch fags

Arch isn't difficult to install, takes like 5 minutes and isn't bloated. I don't see the problem.

i use antergos
its for people who dont want to be manjaro plebs but who are too dumb to install arch
its breddy good

the problem is that the installation makes arch look more complicated than it actually is. Heck, even void knows that a GUI installation should be good enough.

You only type like 8 commands
# mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda1
# mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
# mkdir /mnt/boot
# mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/boot
# pacstrap /mnt base-devel
# genfstab -U /mnt >> /mnt/etc/fstab
# arch-chroot /mnt
# mkinitcpio -p linux
# reboot

Then install whatever DE/WM you want, add a new user with sudo privileges and that's it. If you want an even easier process and a few extra packages you can use arch-anywhere.

Oh yeah I forgot to install grub. Still that was all from memory, and if you're reading the wiki it should be even easier.

Arch users:
>lmao you actually need an installer? You’re not a real man unless you manually do tedious but easily automated tasks.

Antergos users:
>Yeah, nah the Arch install process is just a boring waste of time. I can choose the Antergos base install option and get the same thing as an Arch install without even having to pay attention.

lacks swap m8

Antergos takes longer though. I've timed it. And to get "the same thing as an Arch install" you would have to pay attention and manually change quite a few things, which kind of defeats the purpose.

You don't need swap.

maybe, but it is good practice having swap

You can always add swap at a later date if you need it. I'm using 1.8GiB / 8 with Firefox, Kate, Dolphin, XFCE, multiple terminals, KDEConnet and KeePass open.

All you have to do is comment out the Antergos repo and then its Arch. I’d like to hear about all these things you have to disable. Also I doubt you timed it.

>Add more packages than Arch
>Surprised when Arch is done faster
huh?

and the difference is not very big either desu. idk why are we even complaining about installation time.

And also untick all optional software that you don't need, which requires your attention. Go ahead, contradict yourself some more.

>Add more packages than Arch
Exactly my point. I was never surprised, the time to install doesn't differ much to be noteworthy either, which is also my point.

Because for some reason you think it takes longer or is harder to install Arch. I honestly think you just jumped on the Arch-hate meme and now you're damage controlling because you're realizing there's basically no important difference between Arch and Antergos. You can either save a few minutes by typing a few commands, or brainlessly click next, it's up to you. This brings me back to my first post Thank you for proving me right :^)

ok m8

Perhaps now you'll stop crying whenever someone says they use Arch? I hope so

o-k

Now we can all get along nicely, let's turn this into a screenfetch/neofetch thread

>Download arch iso
>wget fuckface.github.io/archstaller
sh archstaller
(Do some things)
reboot
You only need 3 commands to install arch, lol. There are 50 installers on github. Including the goddamn void installer.

>Arch:
> Teaches you how to build your system and is the real distro.
That's Linux From Scratch you stupid

Don't forget wpa_supplicant if you need to set up wifi.

>neofetch
>be an Antergos user
>sudo pacman -S lsb-release
>neofetch
>be an Arch user now

>And also untick all optional software that you don't need, which requires your attention. Go ahead, contradict yourself some more.
Wow, I have untick CUPS and... oh thats it? Sure requires more attention that typing everything into the terminal and making sure everything is spelled right! Retard.

You can just edit the os-release file

The buttdamage is real

Not an argument

It is an argument - because you're butthurt you're spouting nonsense, which instantly nulls any point you have. The truth is there is no real important difference between Arch and Antergos: you can either save a couple of minutes by typing a few commands, or you can mindlessly click next. Either way you'll end up with the same system. Honestly, I think it's quite pathetic for you to be so buttmad over an OS, no one cares what you use. I'm just trying to help you see that because it's posters like you that are ruining Sup Forums, and maybe, just maybe you'll stop and actually contribute something useful for a change.

>Either way you'll end up with the same system.
So you’re finally admitting that I’m right. Good.

Finally? I've been saying that this entire time. I don't think you read my original post all the way through. Do I type too much? I struggle to keep things concise when I'm drunk, but still if you're going to argue you should at least get your facts straight.

I still don't understand why Arch doesn't have a installer. 95% of people just follow the same guide to get the base system installed anyway.

Manjaro users:
Hey, check out my new time machine!

because the arch community is full of spergs who go into full tard rage when someone suggests offering a convenient, slightly more opaque alternative
they're the "gay marriage will lead to legalized child rape" crowd of computing

>advocates gay marriage
>cries on the internet about pointless things
You're a faggot.

But I followed a guide to install a distro using the command line! I'm an elite hacker now, mom!
Convenience is for n00bs.

Mint users:
>Yo sayin' this shit is Leenax?

Arch users:
>once you learn anything in Arch, it's pretty simple to do. Installing Arch only takes 10 minutes.

Antergos users:
>I spent an hour trying to get wpa_supplicant to work and then gave up. XD arch is so hard to use.

>arch users
i'm so smaahhhht
>antergos users
hurrr durrrr
>manjaro users
(no brain activity)

Is it me or antergos default DM is glitchy as hell? It crashes all the time.

idk works on my machine, it may be the DE fucking up.

ITT: Strawman arguments

Arch:
>Install programs you want
>Configure them how you want
>Done

Antergos:
>Install
>Remove LightDM crap (it's a security risk)
>Install DM of choice (or lack of DM)
>Remove Antergos repository crap
>Remove GUI updater crap
>Remove Numix crap
>Remove Yaourt crap
>Remove any other crap you don't want (e.g. NetworkManager, whatever else it decides for you that you want)
>Go through all the configurations anyway, because you need to set it up how you want it, and you have no idea what things Antergos configured already or how it configured them
>Done

Hmm...

Do you have lizard eyes, how the fuck can you stand that colour scheme my man? Power to you for using xfce4-term but jesus christ

>Arch
>remove systemd
>remove pulseaudio
>replace gcc for musl

>Void
>just werks

Hmm...

But why? SystemD and Pulse Audio are great.

It was mildly tongue in cheek, but I actually prefer using runit to systemd, and musl is nice. As far as pulseaudio goes, it seems unnecessary for me. On a fresh void install, audio worked universally and perfectly via alsa on everything except firefox (thanks based devs), so I literally installed pulseaudio just for pornhub.

I've installed arch twice, after that, I started using antergos to save some time with the installation process. The apeal for antergos for me anyways is that it's basically a 1 click installer for arch

Tried Antergos after using Manjaro for a long ass time. Was rather disappointed, mainly because I chose my home country as region and thought only the locale (monetary values, dates and such) to be what I have heere, while the language I chose in the beginning of the installer will be the main langauge.

Unfortunately that wasn't the case. Antergos will install the language based on the region instead of the language chosen on the first screen of the installer. So I had to mess around to get the language back to English. Manjaro does not have that issue. Though I liked Antergos' encryption section of the installer way better than Manjaro's.

All in all, I'll probably give Antergos a little more time, but in the end if it plays out exactly like I think it will, I'll probably go back to Manjaro. I haven't had a single issue with Manjaro with breakage or package issues, settings or anything whatsoever.

that is mainly because manjaro is intended for busy people (or newbs) that don't want their OS or programs to break and at the same time wanting bleeding edge packages.

>Arch
>Run a few commands
>Install your DE/WM
>Done

>Antergos
>Click a couple buttons
>Install your DE/wm
>Done

this is what i don't get
why care so much about the installation time anyway? how often do you reinstall? does it matter if it takes a couple more minutes to install what you want manually when you're going to use the same system for several years or more?
that, and maintaining the system will take more time and effort in the long run, which is no different between arch/antergos/manjaro

this seems to only be an argument for people who've never used linux before, and have only just gotten past the installation stage

Not a single mention of Artix?

who?

>using KDE programs with XFCE

What's that, about 500 extra package dependencies? What's your package install count looking like?

I distro hop every two weeks

exactly, you don't know what you're doing

Show us on the doll where the Arch user touched you, OP

>didn't partition anything
>didn't format boot
>didn't install a bootloader
I mean sure if everything is already setup it's only 8 commands
Also >ext4

Can I be a real Arch user if I use the Arch Ultimate Install?

>I literally installed pulseaudio just for pornhub.
Why not just Open With mpv?

My fucking sides, man, I love this fucking board.