Almost 2018

>almost 2018
>nightlies stopped nearly 5 months ago
>latest release notes had the devs admitting it was a dead project and only volunteers can save it now.

Are we going to have to move back to VLC?

VLC 3.0 is supposed to be really good...

Mpv you retarded piece of shit nigger.

I still use it.
And if one day it does not do its job anymore, I'll change.

Mpc-BE

install mpv

VLC is really good.

why is this even an argument? it just works
> needs security updates
you use it as an offline media player (unlike vlc which is often used for streaming). hardly ever connects to the internet.
> new technologies
as long as win32/directX 9/dxva are still supported, it will work
> new formats
the wild west of codecs and video formats is done. most material is in common, finalized formats (mp3/mp4/h.264/aac/wmv/mkv etc). if there's anything new, third-party system-wide codecs and filters are supported

no one whines about not having new versions of 7z, imgburn, dosbox, or virtualdub. why? because they just werk. they're near perfect.

See

I use it and it works perfectly. Are you some kind of junkie that needs his everyday update fix?

I bet you still run WinXP

7.
7 is an improvement over XP.

it is only dying because its windows only

>dying because its windows only

How shortsighted of them.

CMPlayer aka bomi

not but I do. is that something to be ashamed of?

bloated

i'm still using mpc
but if something horrible happens and mpc suddenly stops working ill definitely go to mpv

Fpbp

VLC won

Can anyone explain what the reason for update would be?
What new feature would you need/use?
It plays video extremely well and works with madVR and other shit.
Is there viruses in my MKV. I never used it for streaming or anything. To me it's a player I use after I fully download a torrent.

It plays all the relevant containers and all the relevant codecs. Anime and movies all come in x264/265 anyways.

mpv. If you're a mouth-breathing cretin, VLC is fine.

What's good about MPV?

nothing, it lacks a lot of features
but it's common knowledge that if it's almost unusable and has anime pictures attached to it, Sup Forums will worship it

If you like computers, everything.
If you like video playback, everything.
If you like both, you found your new playground.

>perfectly fine software stops getting updates
>"WELP TIME TO STOP USING IT!"

People are using fucking uTorrent from 10 years ago and this guy worries about a perfectly normal player that hasn't been updates in a few months.

You are aware that people are using CCCP to this day with a horribly outdated MPC-HC and they don't even see the difference.

Nothing. There's nothing really bad about it either though. It'll play your stuff. But compared to MPC and VLC it lacks features, isn't as user friendly and have for whatever reason that escapes me gotten a reputation that it's the "best" player for specifically anime.

didnt you read the news about the subs interpreter? pretty much every player was affected, so what makes you think there are no bugs in your shitty player?

Top kek. Only fags watch anime

VLC needs a 'play next file in folder' option

Otherwise I'd use it all day every day.

I like the built in opensubtitles downloader that mpchc has. wish mpv had something similat.

YES I know about the subliminal script. it's fucking garbage

mpv has the best picture quality and performance while VLC has a lot of bloat features, shit performance, mediocre picture quality and mpc-hc is now dead.

>I like the built in opensubtitles downloader that mpchc has. wish mpv had something similat.

This is pretty redundant if you just use the sites or you know...get files that have the subs and commentary track built in.

But I guess you download the shitty YIFY files.

first. knowing the sites and going there to get the subs doesn't compare to pressing a key and suddenly having all the subs displayed so you pick the ones you like.

second not every release has the subs and you don't even know what the fuck is my first language so shut the fuck up you imbecile.

third, I usually get the rarbg 720p/1080 releases which don't tend to have subtitles.

get fucked

>going there to get the subs doesn't compare to pressing a key and suddenly having all the subs displayed so you pick the ones you like.

If they even have it. Then you have to go to another site.

>you don't even know what the fuck is my first language so shut the fuck up you imbecile.

Lol yet you can read english here

>I usually get the rarbg 720p/1080 releases which don't tend to have subtitles.

Confirmed for absolute pleb who downloads shrunken shit.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

not >i dl 60GB movies to watch on my 4" screen
>hurrdurr

I have a 60 inch screen and I watch either remuxes or rips by private tracker encoders.

works on my machine

for now

I think Potplayer is a nice replacement for mpc on Windows.

>wastes remuxes on a screen as small as 60'
>probably isn't 4K
>or HDR
>or ATMOS

Whats the point.

Use SM Player and use the MPC skin.

There's no need to update something that just werks

*corrupts video*

this
if it stops working, then i'll look for alternative

why do you need updates when youve achieved perfection?
when a new meme arises in video tech people will revive the project, but until then you dont need updates.

>using subs

the only problem I wish they fixed before abandoning it is the fucking MINUTES it takes to load huge playlists

mpv and vlc load instantly, I could literally have children in the time it takes for mpchc. and the problem was known for years.

It can be used with SMplayer to make it actually usable and not just a meme
MPC-HC still wins on windows though

>You are aware that people are using CCCP to this day with a horribly outdated MPC-HC and they don't even see the difference.
But they really should, since being able to take screenshots with subs in DAR is nice. madVR implemented that a few months ago.

LAV would probably handle that, and all you would have to do is revert to the ways before LAV was bundled with MPC-HC: installing it manually and setting it as the preferred external filter.

MPC-HC is dead, doesn't mean support for new stuff is.

>SMplayer
What are you even looking for in a GUI to install the bloated piece of shit on top of mpv?

>no need for updates
You niggers, AV1 is coming out soon™. Enjoy your no updates when the codec gets tweaked. MPC-HC is amazing, but mpv is just as good. Both just werk out of the box, but both need extra configuration for perfection.

Those "features" are bloat that could be happily done by external applications.

LAV filters handle the codecs.

Something that can be used without having to edit config files or having to use a nonstandard overlay "gui"

Potplayer or bust

config files can be a problem for brainlets but what else would you even be looking for?

Do they not support ipv6?

shhhh, let him act smart for once in his life

Strangely enough, the program has continued to function perfectly even after it "died" so I have had to do absolutely nothing so far.

>you're a brainlet if you don't want to limit yourself to config files
Taking the "real men use config files like in the good old days" meme seriosuly is the actual brainlet behavior

not a brainlet, but when I installed mpv there weren't config files to edit to begin with

if I wanted to edit anything I would either need to read the cmd output or google the switches and then manually place them

Even deader than HC

>avoiding the question
You are the brainlet if you can't use something without pretty buttons to press. This is toddler-tier thinking.

There's a difference between not understanding something and not wanting to do something when superior alternatives exist

Why do you need your media player constantly updated? Did it stop working? Is there a format you cannot play?

Are you just autistic and make this thread every couple of days?

How are GUIs superior when they are limited in functionality compared to conf files?

>superior alternatives
lol
To me, there is very little difference between a dropdown list telling you the available scaling algorithms and the manual telling that the scale= option has these certain options available. Only difference is that the gui will be more likely to overwhelm you once the player starts exposing a fuckton more options to you. At least with a config file, you don't have to bother with those other options until you specifically need them. Meanwhile, a GUI will just give you an information overload in an attempt to show every single option available. Considering the amount of options and the modularity of mpv, a GUI is just seriously impractical.

>Considering the amount of options and the modularity of mpv, a GUI is just seriously impractical.
Beatuiful way of saying "we can't make an usable GUI"

>no argument
There comes a point where the amount of options are so numerous that a GUI is literally impractical.

Because a GUI full of nothing but half-explained or even ambiguously explained options is obviously much better than a config and a manual that has the luxury of explaining its options in great detail.

Updates would be nice especially considering how many fucking widgets you have to work together in order to get top-tier playback. MPC-HC is afantastic player, but if it isn't getting updated then you have to worrry about security issues and incompatibilities with all of the "common" stuff that updates even faster - LAV Filters, madVR (is there an open source equivalent?), XYSubFilter or AssFilterMod etc.

I recently had to uninstall my setup which was based on LAV Filters Megamix (which pretty much gives you everything listed above) because of an incompatibility with one of my games (I think it is probably invoking LAV or whatnot) that plays a fucking movie on load basically.

I am thinking of reinstalling just MPV-HC, but I've also considered MPV hearing everyone rave about it - I wonder if MPV doesn't require all of the 3rd party shit listed above to be "great". If not, I'll consider it even though it has a shitty GUI and a .conf for everything. Really does need a better GUI though, even for fucking playback if nothing else.

MPC HC is great and it would be sad if it is no longer updated. However if something like MPV which is fully cross platform can step in and has a good development backing then that's even better.

>we can't make a GUI that has proper oncreen help

LAV filters are based on libavcodec (part of FFMPEG).
mpv is based on mplayer, which also uses libavcodec

cramming it all into the UI means that all the explanations need to be brief. If some explanations are too complicated to fit onto a UI, you would start looking into the documentation. At that point, why do you even need a GUI in the first place? You've essentially ended up in the same place as the config user.

>60'
>small

You're STILL only saying that you can't create an actually good GUI.

>You're STILL only saying that you can't create an actually good GUI.
Not even SMPlayer exposes all the available options on MPV, you retard. You have no argument other than "hurr durr good UI". You need to start arguing specifics.

I never said that SMPlayer is perfect, just that it makes mpv somewhat usable without config files

The rest of the world disagrees.
The more complicated the software the greater the need for a GUI since you cannot get a comprehensive idea of the software through a data dump of settings. I do not need to go through 30 pages telling me settings for an API for an OS that I don't use to find out how to turn the volume down.
A GUI shows you what's available and promotes learning through trial and error, showing you what an option does instead of trying to explain it in theory.
I see people use command-line arguments here all the time for software I learned through GUI and can see that they're all clueless idiots. They're sitting there using the godawful defaults for everything because they never learned the 30 or so flags, when I have a GUI that shows me all the settings, what they do, their valid ranges, and then shows me the output.
CLI's punish you for playing around
>syntax error
>syntax error
>syntax error
... while a GUI just werks.

here you are avoiding the main arguments again
So far, your argument only hinges on this vague idea of a "good UI" when you probably have no idea what it is supposed to be. Face it, with the amount of options available, a UI is seriously impractical. Why do you think scripting is still popular, anyways? Hint: it has something to do with the fact that your standard desktop environment (even windows) lacks the much more complex options that are available. To you, a retarded brainlet, everything can be done through a UI.

Not him, but the main advantage of a GUI (especially a good one) is that it is immediately explorable and discoverable, a user can immediately look through the logically-categorized UI and as such is informed both of the program's features and of the configuration possibilities. It doesn't require prior knowledge or research in order to use since it's self-explanatory to some degree. It won't (though it could) contain detailed explanations of everything, but it's not like the manual needs to disappear if there's a GUI.

The main disadvantage of config files is that you cannot know what the software is capable of, even at a surface level, without reading through the manual. Hell, immediately after install you may not even know where the config files are located, the syntax or if there's a single config file or multiple (if there's more than 1, what are they all used for? can/do they override each other?). Config files are not self-explanatory at all, a new user could even be experienced in general and not have any idea about how a new program's configuration works.

>some companies still use computers from 30 years ago, even older because they just work
>Sup Forumsoats panic because the program that works didn't get an update in 5 months

mpv has a gui to configure it. I think its called GLOW. Conf file will always be better though.

Mpv won't let you even decide on the fly to save as jpg or png, which would be pretty fucking handy.
>inb4 you can with a script
No you can't, that shit doesn't even work properly.

>muh brainlet
Nice argument
>Why do you think scripting is still popular, anyways?
Automation of menial tasks
>idea of a "good UI" when you probably have no idea what it is supposed to be
Just like you, but you won't even consider that creating an usable GUI is possible. You're probably a "muh minimalism" retard who believes he's the shit for manually configuring his minimal distro and so totally not a brainlet normalfag who fell for some retarded memes

cycle values with input.conf

The trips don't lie.

Do you really not understand how GUIs are more limited in configuration? Config files are way more robust and flexible. There is no argument against this.

>Config files are way more robust
Making a simple typo means that the file won't be parsed correctly. How is that more robust than letting a tested tool handle configuration? The developer also gets more freedom for how the configuration is stored, making XML files or registry entries a possibility to use instead of simple text files
If the GUI limits you then it's simply garbage

Yes, GUIs are meant to be intuitive and that's the point. You need to hide some options that are much more complicated and require more explanation than your usual on-screen help in order to avoid confusing the brainlets that can't function without pretty buttons. IINA exists and it's a pretty good front-end for mpv but it still hides options and are only accessible by using the config file.

>Are we going to have to move back to VLC?
Nah. On windows I still just use mpc-hc with madvr, or potplayer. On linux vlc is pretty shit, and mpv is a gift from the gods.

mpc wasnt affected by this to begin with

So you really dont understand...
I hate neo Sup Forums

>neo anything
user...
>his software targets brainlets so he cripples it intentionally

GUIs aren't more limited, they just take (much) more work from the developer compared to a text config file. It's understandable to not want to spend development time on making a fancy UI to configure every new feature, but that doesn't mean a proper GUI for configuration wouldn't work.

>not catering to both

Any sotware that has GUI targets brainlets. That's the very reason why you have a GUI in the first place. So that brainlets don't have to read the manual to start doing things. In other words: intuitive.

Just hide the more advanced settings like android or firefox do for example.