2.5" HDDs

What the hell happened to high capacity 2.5" HDDs?
You'd think that now that programs are installed on SSDs, people would be more interested in high capacity, relatively silent HDDs with a low power draw?
But no, there are less +2TB 2,5" HDDs on the market than years ago. WD didn't even release a WD Red with 2 TB, although there have been blues and greens with that amount of storage ages ago.

Maybe it's just me living in Germany, where 1 kw/h is 27 cents, so a HDD running 24/7 drawing 2W saves me about 25€ a year compared to a HDD drawing 7W (so they'd save ~ their initial price over a course of 5 years), but they got so many other advantages that make them relatively interesting.
Still, they're dieing out. Why is that?
Does anyone know if any new releases are around the corner?

>where 1 kw/h is 27 cents
jesus christ and these eurotrash are calling us 3rd worlders

In my 3rd world country I can find 5TB Seagate barracudas for 250 euro

with smr. The only 3tb hdd in 2.5" without that shit is from toshiba.

Hard drives are slowly becoming irrelevant with SSD tech improving. HDD is old tech no matter how you spin it because it was made in like the 70s or 80s. Cheap SSDs with high capacity, high transfer speeds, and high read/write counts are the future.

Data hoarding on your notebook is silly for most people, and the serious sort get a business class notebook with drive expansion options. If you need to hoard a lot of data put it on a NAS and leave it turned off until you need it.

1TB SSDs are reasonably priced if you want silence, even lower power draw, and far better impact resistance.

There is no need for size (as in storage) in this form factor. SSDs are now used in that form (and much smaller) factor instead.

3.5" hard drives still grow as they have an actual use.

>1TB SSDs are reasonably priced
not in my country lol.

>27 cents to the kwh
>Literally paying as much as Hawaii, an isolated socialist state, does for electricity
Dumb haole

>just because it's old makes it irrelevant
ok. wake me uip when the wheel is replaced.

There's just really no reason for super high capacity HDD's. Back in the day before SSDs, all the Cheetah and Velociraptor drives were 2.5" with heatsinks. They had to be 2.5" to be able to spin at 10k RPM and 15k RPM.

I would still like to get my hands on 8x5TB 2.5" drives for pic related. Get 40TB in 2 DVD bays.

The wooden wheel was replaced by metal and rubber, which lasts significantly longer and has more control. We're not replacing hard drives, we're improving them by making them SSDs. The old wheel is obsolete compared to todays ones is it not?

You know what happened ? we reached a point where HDDs were increasing in size faster then we created data.

The typical person needs less than 128GB of space, so why bother trying to sell them several TB of space ?

its better to try and sell them some fast SSD instead, they will notice the speed from an SSD/NVME drive but will likely never fill up all those TB of space they could have otherwise gotten with a mechanical drive.

So the market for 2.5 inch HDs is drying up as it moves towards SSDs instead.

You're right about the SSD part but wrong about the storage space issue. Even your average everyday joe needs a lot of storage space. People store all their music and pictures on their computer, let alone the people who do work and game occasionally.

>Even your average everyday joe needs a lot of storage space. People store all their music and pictures on their computer, let alone the people who do work and game occasionally.

I don't believe I am.

Streaming is more popular than ever before, no need to store music anymore, even if we were to store music on the PC it doesn't take up that much space.
Sure people take lots of pictures these days, but even at their full resolution they don't take up that much space.

Work - well that depends what kind of work you wanna talk about ? if we are talking about dealing with very large files than why are you using a laptop ( the general realm of 2.5 inch drives)
if we are talking about writing up documents and other bullshit or even graphic design, neither of those are space hogs.

Of course we can bring up fringe cases where people need a shit load of space, but those are exactly that, fringe cases and for them those kinds of machines with lots of space do exist.

>Calling your ancestors trash
Oof lad, that's mighty feisty

Any particular reason you cropped out the price?

the "cloud" voided the need for large storage for consumer markets, so the large storage needs are reserved for enterprise customers

>no matter how you spin it

heh

Here in yurope they are

But isn't low (~100mb/s) performance, high reliability, low power draw (for certifications and subventions for being green IT) and low space used interesting for the cloud as well?
Most consumer cloud providers don't offer more than Gbit Connection anyway, so 220mb/s of 3.5" seems like unnecessary.
But shouldn't ssds be replacing low capacity hdds? Nobody needs 320gb hdds anymore, yet they released 5 consumer 2tb drive.
They even got 3tb drives, but they only use them for external drives. Is it really not worth it to market those on their own?
I don't want to use it in a laptop. Take a look at the odroid hc1. I'd have a powerdraw of ~3-4 watts using a 3tb 2.5" HDD. Even an empty nas from Synology would cost me three times as much.

There are, look at the Seagate external HDDs. But they are OEM. I got a 1.5 TB one from 2012. But: They are 9mm hgh. So they wonÄt always ifit if you want to put them into a caddy.

4 TB for 110 €, what do you want more? I paid about the same price for mine when it was new.

I don't really need an external drive and many come with a soldered USB connector.
Also is there any way of telling whether those external drives come with smr or not?
All I want is a local, network access storage that keeps in sync with my seedbox.

I don't know. I thought mine is defective but I found out its just a normal harddrive inside. I use it since then. It will be replaced by a 4 TB this year.

Just took a look, apparently the 4 TB drives of Seagate feature smr even in the external drives so take care.

>it was made in like the 70s or 80s
EEPROM was invented 1977
HDD's are even older

It's a push for cloud infrastructure for mobile computing.

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You probably won't get 15mm drives in there. I have one of those 4bay things and it only takes up to 12mm

>Maybe it's just me living in Germany, where 1 kw/h is 27 cents, so a HDD running 24/7 drawing 2W saves me about 25€ a year compared to a HDD drawing 7W (so they'd save ~ their initial price over a course of 5 years), but they got so many other advantages that make them relatively interesting
Yea, so that's why this doesn't work out!

5W per 2TB or 8W for 14TB - the choice is obvious. Go with 3.5" helium filled 14TB drives for your data!

> there are less +2TB 2,5" HDDs on the market than years ago
Of course, Laptop plebs are moving to SSD and generally it's hard to fit more than 2TB in a 2.5" form factor right now. I'm sure capacities will increase some time again, but it's not going to be most interesting to put even THAT in a 2.5" drive immediately.