I HURT MYSELF TODAY

I HURT MYSELF TODAY

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JUST

what happened?
also,

Major hardware bug discovered, which has been in the design of all of intels 64bit CPU's. Its mostly a risk for virtual machining, as it allows non-users access to memory not allocated to them. But real black hat hackers only make money by being smart and incredible creative, so it might be useable for very, very bad exploits for private PC's as well.

It can not be fixed, it is build into it. So you have to tell windows/linux/MacOS not to use these functions in order to fix it temporarely.

On the systems that needs this operation, early studies shows 35-40% performance loss.

gaming and everyday work should not be influenced by performance.

But how about EPYC now? It was already tempting, the first server manufacturers have already joined, and now you can not literally buy a Intel CPU and be safe if you are doing servers, and you cannot accept even 10% performance loss due to the incredible amount of money required. Only option until 9th gen Intel is AMD.

/biz/ is nothing than Bitcoins and the other shitty memeblocks

on the flipside, my $AMD is doing quite well today

Same. Took this opportunity to buy some Intel shares on the low. Lets hope Intel rebounds soon.

nice just bought 100k

Buy the stocks, it will only go up once the market fixes itself. It will fix itself once the market finds out the "critical bug that reduces performance by 50%" is a big fat lie.

INTEL IS FINISHED

lmao this

I love how disingenuous the OP image is. This drop is meaningless.

i went on Sup Forums, i saw three consecutive threads regarding Intel near their bump limit, i read them all. none contained anything remotely as concise as your post. thanks for not spamming memes with the rest.

>early studies shows 35-40% performance loss.
UP TO 30% loss.
As low as

Wait for the class-action lawsuits.

depends on the CPU operation.
Userland? =30%

It's going to have a huge impact on data center/backend shit. Gaming and personal computers? Not so much.

Cloud providers are freaking out right now.

>the publicly exposed NSA backdoor is meaningless

>I/O operations in Kernel? >=30%

Depends on the size of those I/O operations. It's the switching between kernel and userland that is slow, so if you read/write 1 GB at a time the losses will be minimal, but if you need a million 1 KB blocks from 100 threads it's going to be a disaster.

DROP IT

Shit will really hit the fan, when the exploit goes public.

It's going down to 30. It's going to cost Intel into the tens of billions to fix this shit.

So is this the moment to buy Intel stocks?

>hes a no coiner
I'm amazed more of you haven't killed yourselves yet

Or Google and Amazon switching to AMD or maybe even Power

Intel investor pacification call
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Accompanying slides
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Intel expect no financial impact from this incident. None whatsoever.

I wouldn't join building a tower of Babel either. In 10-20 years it will be usable as a currency and I'll join, for now it's just a waste of energy for the sake of greed.

>lack of feature to boost performance
>bug
Pick one faggot. This was intended design and before today was largely irrelevant issue. Now that it is an issue is easily remedied by patching the OS.
>oh no someone figured out a security loophole, now we have to patch it and impeded performance
Wow just like every single time a security loophole is discovered. AKA fucking nothing

All performance loss is placebo if you own AMD. AMD didn't have the gain.

The real problem that has no current fix affects everyone.

>huge performance loss is fucking nothing

intel damage control in full force

DON'T
STOP
ME
NOW

I'M HAVING SUCH A GOOD TIME
I'M TRAVELING AT THE SPEED OF LIIIIGHT

BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY

I made $350 off AMD today
Not much but gains are gains

Buy some buttcoins with it.

TO SEE IF I STILL FEEL

>gaming and everyday work should not be influenced by performance.
Is this confirmed?

I was about to buy myself a ThinkPad. Would I be better off saving up and splurging on an A series when the new models with Ryzen cpus come out?

>BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE

AMD Cpus are confirmed affected as well, stop listening to Sup Forums shills

The 30% performance loss is only confirmed on Linus' two line bug fix. The prelimary benches from the windows patch show less than a 1% loss across the board.

youtube.com/watch?v=vt1Pwfnh5pc

Only super rare AMD A-series Opterons are vulnerable to Meltdown.

I wanted to invest in AMD after I heard about this but there is waaayyy more money to made in crypto anyway.

>stop listening to shills
>heed my shilling and only mine

This is not "mostly a risk for virtual machining"

this is I am going to write all 0s to your fucking BIOS while your shit is running and brick your motherboard because I can do anything I fucking want trivially at a level of access ABOVE ROOT

DO YOU FUCKING UNDERSTAND

FINALLY SOMEONE GETS IT

THERE IS REASON TO BE OF CONCERN

you could buy some bitcoin shavings with that maybe

Thanks for the good post, mate.
I may pound you in your ass if you want.

I want to see where it goes at open tomorrow

I hate analysts so much. One companies stock goes up and there's a thousand articles declaring a new paradigm or a huge conspiracy about it.

on any modern processor?
what the fuck am I supposed to use?

AMD isn't affected

GOOD SHIT. FUCK INTEL INTO THE GROUND I DON'T EVEN CARE ABOUT THE CONTEXT. BANKRUPT INTEL NOW!!!

hm...
does this means you have a solid case to request a refund in account of faulty by design under warranty protections?

>affected

yes it is. Google discovered this vuln, and released a statement saying AMD was affected

AMD is affected.

Enjoy being poor.

No it isn't, that sentence is being purposefully ambiguous, in reality AMD was only affected by Spectre 1 which was already fixed with no performance loss.
And you know all this since you keep posting the same pic even though you get the same replies telling you you are wrong, what are you doing?

Nah, they will prolly create their own CPUs

Specter cannot be fixed, except at the hardware level. Specter affects all chips in existence.

Windows and Linux benchmarks have so far proven that gaming at least is not affected, which is what people predicted anyway. Databases and virtualization are going to be most affected, end-user applications not so much.

Spectre 1 got patched retard, it's Spectre 2 aka Variant Two which is unfixable, and AMD is not affected.

FAKE NEWS!!!

google was protecting itself from lawsuits because AMD is affected by spectre but everyone on this board is talking about meltdown. the real fucking issue. the 30% performance loss patch issue. Stop using spectre for damage control. Its a different issue altogether which has been patched with no performance loss.. UNLIKE INTEL MELTDOWN

i have to agree but

is right too. this is a BUY period!! smartfags would invest when the next drop comes and then the i9 will come out and smartfags will be richfags. screenshot this post.

Linus is a treasure.

ahhhh~
this is tiring.

>ethereum
>waste of energy
Top kek me heartie, it's like we're not even on a technology board

You idiot. The nightly news hasn't even broadcast the story yet. You know not how much lower it will go.

If you have stock in Intel, what you want to do to profit from this is sell now, then buy back your shares when they become cheaper. This is called short selling and it let's you turn a dive into a win.

So how do i throttle my cpu to get rid of the vulnerability then? or will jewtel do it for me

yes because people realise this means the entire planet must buy new cpus
Intel wins AGAIN.

Nobody has a good excuse to buy Intel ever again.

Latest windows 10 and linux updates "fix" it by entirely disabling the feature, causing a big performance loss depending on load. Throttling isn't related to it.

>intel will die in your lifetime
Best timeline for sure

i told them that BIOS should be ROM only but they didn't listen

google came out today with more information. the main exploit is called spectre which has different attack vectors for it. one is called meltdown which is the worse because it allows any program to view any process memory. the other vector attacks for it only allow you view a process memory only if you know the process you want to attack before hand. while meltdown allows for complete view of any process memory without needing to know anything about it.

google stated ALL processors on the market since the 90's are effected by spectre. all tested amd, arm, and intel processors have the exploit. but so far only intel from 2009 and above and select arm processors are affected by meltdown by the nature of intel's and arm out of order design. essentially intel and arm have processors that have a larger out of order pool that allows for a longer attack window to use meltdown type attack vector. google has stated that amd should be effected by it but their current way of exploiting meltdown isn't capable yet and with time they are sure they can get the meltdown exploit to work on bulldozer and ryzen cpu's. but at the moment its only intel processors since 2009 and select arm processors that can be effected by meltdown.

ALL amd, arm, and intel processors can be exploited by all other spectre exploits though. the only current way to fix it is to disable speculative out of order processing at the processor level.

>gaming at least is not affected
oh thank fuck

the fuck is wrong with the press today?
ryan shrout shilling for amd
tpu shilling for amd


I'm actually happy, I just don't understand this new world order.

>mfw almost bought in at $11 but bought at $380 instead
Whatever, I guess $10-$100k gains will be better than nothing.

>intel's goalpost-shifting masterpiece

they not only named the jew, they even got the fallacies right. tpu went full Sup Forums, they showed their powerlevel publicly.

they even reposted this if steve burke aligns with amd tomorrow I just don't what i'll do. that's my baseline, calling it now.

...

which reminds me, Jim, adoredtv, probably reached enlightenment today.

he dumped it back in november, though.
good effort.

>intel lost nearly 1/2 what AMD holds total
>intel is still completely fine

when this shit releases regarding AMD, they won't be able to survive, especially after the Vega fiasco

that good old tom.
never change dear boy.

I despise that site but i just had to check
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thats spectre not meltdown retard

yes, your steam library will be perfectly fine ^^
denuvo is inconsenquential
online games? your friend's ARK, space engineers, minecraft server? don't worry.

Shut up shill. AMD can mitigate this by setting a kernel boot parameter. Intel doesn't respect the flag, so software has to do all checks during syscall. Intel is screwed

Was this what y2k was supposed to be

don't forget to upvote and subscribe
faggot

great job, intel. first you shoot yourself in the knee by letting AMD survive and now this

factoring in mobiles? it's way worse.

My mobile uses ARM. Am I safe?

?

enjoy your worthless virtual shitcoins

gosh, I need a new forum
overclockers is so tame these days.

what do you guise recommend? (i migrated there after xtremesystems died, I baited mike papermaster so hard even though I've always been an amd fanboy, it was just too easy, those were good days).

>local news does not mention Intel by name

Try /baph/