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IBM moved their HQ to India just a few months ago.
They don't manufacture anything now only license out things and sell patents.

Yes, America is dead and rotten.

I don't know how any of that is relevant to my comment.

All relevant companies moved their production to China and India. Ameruca is left with SJW HR idiots hiring Hindus and Slavs to work remotely.

fugg, that's sad
I was never around for the golden age

Contrary to popular memes India is a huge market especially for cutting egde stuff so no wonder they want to exploit the potential.
They are just playing their cards right nothing bad about it.

India is literally broke.
IBM, as per standard, is 10 years behind.

that not how it works so w/e

Their product quality is shit. Enjoy your exploding servers.

POWER is a fucking housefire

Anyone with half a brain is pulling out of India and moving to Philippines.

As per standard, IBM does not have half a brain and is moving into India too late.

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Almost every time IBM put a POWER chip into the consumer market it was a heat monster, recall the fact that half the G5 Mac was all cooling and also the massive size of the PS3.
Yes, they had insane floating point performance, but back in the day it was perhaps a reasonable trade off for specific workloads and in the PS3 the CELL could even take on graphics rendering duties.
Considering that we now have GPUs with compute capabilities, this is largely irrelevant, because any time you need high FP performance, you can just bounce the task to the graphics chip, whether it's the physics or particle systems.

Were they hot running because POWER was designed as a server chip first, then scaled down to the consumer level?

>a chance for IBM's POWER9 chips to go mainstream and be included in desktops and laptops

No.
POWER just runs hot because IBM can't into efficient design since their biggest customers were always Governments.

Me right now with a room full of G4s and a G5 while it's going to get below zero tonight

Silly got, you can't play video games on Power9.

That's false. India is Rising. Don't fall for media's lies.

India isn't rising, it's literally in a worse state than China.
I'll believe India is rising when the Indians move home for better opportunities. They haven't yet.

Patch will be out for POWER8 next Mon/Tue

You know what India needs to make it run better?


England.

I would like to switch to power but what if some of my scientific software is binary only for x64?

If you didn't understand, POWER8 is also affected by Variant 1 of Spectre.
Not by Variant 2 or by Intel Exclusive Variant 3 (Meltdown)

>especially for cutting egde stuff

like indoor plumbing?

no one will give a single fuck because software cache dban'ing costs $0 and power9 costs $10,000

Wasn't 1 the variant that's already patched with 0 performance penalty?

On x86 yes, Patch will be out for POWER soon, but otherwise yes, no performance penalty.

Power efficiency is a Sup Forums meme since you rent data centers with fixed power and it's your mistake to not utilize it fully.

The problem is that electricity is the biggest problem for datacenters today.
Connectivity is fine, reliable power is a problem, especially in a world where 2RU servers are now a small blade of 20 in a unit that's only 8RU.

>is this a chance for IBM's POWER9 chips to go mainstream and be included in desktops and laptops and not just servers?
no, now stop making this worthless thread

>you rent data centers with fixed power
Not at all true.
Many data centers have a wattage limit per rack and will charge you for extra energy use.
Otherwise customers would stack racks full of mining equipment and take advantage of the flat electricity rate.

I don't get why Sup Forums is seemingly suddenly overrun with idiots who think POWER is some shiny new up-and-coming x86 killer that IBM is just lurking in the shadows waiting for a good opportunity to bring into the mainstream. Is the delusional worship of IBM among newfags trying to fit in getting this bad? Or do the dullards trying to revive the exotic RISC workstations they never actually had to pay for or use for a practical purpose finally feel there's a very dim light at the end of their tunnel of autistic suffering?

IBM couldn't give less of a fuck about re-entering the commodity market they just exited after decades of struggling in it, they're not watching this whole debacle working themselves into a lather over how they're going to take advantage of it to sell you a $10,000 POWER9 system to play video games and browse Facebook on, that's not what POWER is built for. Its niches and advantages, like hardware virtualization and corespam, are very server-centric and bring very little to the table for desktop customers who will see little more in a modern POWER desktop than a PeeCee with a different sticker on the front that costs double the price for the privilege of running the same old GNU/Linux operating system and software as any PC or Raspberry Pi. Even if IBM shipped another AIX workstation... AIX is expensive, has no desktop software anymore and non-commodity workstations are dead and buried. We're not even going to talk about how retardedly useless a main-line POWER laptop would be.

So to make it short, no, no and fuck no on all counts. Just buy a dual-core Power Mac G5 already and stop grasping at straws.

So much this.

Besides, the irony that IBM literally nurtured Intel and AMD by letting them produce CPUs for the IBM PC from the very beginning.

Whole history of IBM from the 1980s is a disgrace.