Everyone laughed at release, but The AMD FX-8000 series are last secure processor

Everyone laughed at its release at how the performance was not up to what was expected.

Yet the alternative has
>Intel ME remote execution bugs,
>the almost certainty that Intel ME is a purpose built backdoor
>meltdown bug,
>susceptibility to Spectre variant 2 which is way more damaging than variant 1
>Considering all of the above by default Intel chips are not secure.

Ryzen has PSP which is similar to Intel ME, the FX-series do not have such a system. With micro code patched for spectre one and with the Core boot folks making great progress for Bulldozer.

This is the best time to buy yourself the last remaining FX chips, because future revelations surely find new issues with ME and PSP.

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lol yes buy my AMD chip while i scoop up some dirt cheap intel.

>being dumb enough to buy anything intel in current year

get off Sup Forums retardlet

Good goy

Where are my FX brothers?

Got a Ryzen but also still use my FX-8370e for media center, watching movies etc. Most stable system I ever had runs months on end without issue

8350 running on my server. It's a great CPU, especially if you don't gayme.

Just upgraded the 8350 to a Ryzen 7 1700. It was/is a great CPU but it's showing it's age in some modern games.

9590 reporting and running strong with a kraken X61 AIO. Got it for the same price as a FX-8350 and kraken X61 for a good deal and usable if I ever decide to upgrade.

""""8350""" is what I use in my desktop, can run anything maxed out gtfo. Only retards bought the 8350 over the 8320 when only difference was 0.5ghz you could OC for 20% cheaper.

the fx-8370e would be the best though, base clock is low but it can clock to 5.2Ghz without to much hassle on lower voltage.

>whose laughing nao

Children, not all machines need security. Do you not know to use a Coreboot/Libreboot Thinkpad with a live Linux image which doesn't use or touch a hard disk?

Build your gaymen box with whatever. Of course that will run live distros (you can easily make live WinPE and related live ,isos too, FalconFour is a handy toolkit example) and boot them on UEFI if make using Rufus.

You can also skip the above and boot Knoppix, which has the tools to remaster itself so you can roll your own live distro. Knoppix should be in everyone's toolkit. Great for data rescue too.

Your hardware doesn't matter if it never gets attacked in the first place. Your host OS could be a waterfall of malware but it doesn't run if you don't boot it, and exploits against ME won't work if the attacker never gets access while you are booted to a live OS because he/she/xir cannot conveniently cover every base. They just hunt retarded Winfags mostly.

If the NSA wants you, and it doesn't, you're done anyway. Skiddies OTOH ain't the NS fucking A.

I hope these bugs chase millions of workstations and servers out of corporate hands so I can score a couple cheap. This will be great for corporate sales, great for competition (if Intel and AMD didn't compete your dumbass teentard selves couldn't afford good PCs) and great for IT jobs. It's all win.

Are you retarded? The 8320 couldn't overclock like the 8350 could. Good luck getting anywhere near 5GHz.

can i has an pre psp apu for a comfy and secure shitposting machine?

You misunderstood, assuming you are running stock because that wasn't the argument if the thread is about stock FX series, the 8320 was a better deal if you do a minor to put it on par with more expensive 8350, dont move the goalpost

>you could OC for 20% cheaper.
Or you could, you know, get the 8350 on sale, for dirt cheap. You've assumed too much.

>on sale

youre still just moving the goalpost fuck off youre shit at discussion, the absolute state of Sup Forums...

>can i has an pre psp apu for a comfy and secure shitposting machine?
yes, but you need the pre 2014 ones, later APU's got PSP, so for example a A10-5800k

FX Vishera was built until the end of 2016, you can still buy them new.

Shitposting from an FX-8320

never asked for more

amd.com/pt/products/apu/7th-gen-a12-9800-apu

That's literally the scenario I experienced. You're the dildo who comes barging in telling people (who you know nothing about) that they are retards because of some imagined scenario, that you put forth only in your mind.There's nothing about stock/non-stock in this thread prior to your autism attack.

>resorting to ad hominem

saged and hidden

that one actually has PSP

I doubt you could even manage that, autismo.

6350 OC'd to 4ghz running at 1.24~ vcore, splendid CPU

Dying from heat stroke from being in the same room as an FX8350 for too long

FX is OLD and SLOW

It's [current year]

@5Ghz it is still as fast as the i5 from feb 2017 and Ryzen 5 1400 in multithread stuff.

Only muh games might be an argument

>tfw I have a perfectly good FX-6300 and FX-9370 but all good am3+ motherboards are insane stupid money.

I should have never bought into Intel. When my Sabertooth 990FX died, I should have just gotten a replacement. I shouldn't have bought that i5-4690k and Z97 setup.

you can buy second hand ones for not too much money, most go for around $30 for 990fx

using my FX8350 to mine monero and heat my first floor

I have my old 6300 in the closet. Disapointing pos cpu desu. Always regreted buying it

Thinking of buying an FX-8320 and 4+1 power phase mobo (asrock or gigabyte).
Only got DDR3 RAM.
Worth it?
Please respond.

I looked both on Amazon and Ebay, All of the 970 Chipset boards are minimum $60. All of the good 990FX boards are $150-$200. $400+ for the really good ones.

And apparently Zotac made some 880G am3 socket mITX motherboard.

you won't be overclocking. Like at all. 6+1 power phase boards are required to lean on FX.

Using an old FX-6300. I'm thinking of picking up a Ryzen for my Devil's Canyon PC that I use at my other house.

Got my fx 8320 running at 4500 while editing 4k video all cores @100% not too hot with the case open

I've got an FX 8300 as my server cpu. A task it excels at. Meanwhile my Desktop uses a Phenom II x4 955. Both systems use the same motherboard.

I don't want to OC, just to achieve advertised turbo frequency.

You could try foreign ebay or community sites, to get them somewhat cheaper.

nice board, but AM3 boards needed a bios update to work with am3+ cpu's, also am3+ has thicker pins, it might work.

turbo is shite.
and it's very unlikely to run at advertised turbo rate on all cores

Hmm...So do you think 4+1 has a chance at all?

>4+1 power phase mobo
the cheaper 970 boards all come with more and are not that expensive, better go for those.

What about the amd athlon 64 3200+
Is that secure?

everything before FX is secure and without psp

Running my 8320 since a few months after it launched.

I have it running at 4.6 on 1.4v with a shitty h80i v2 on a first gen 970 mobo (designed for the shittier bulldozer cores) it doesnt break 57° at gayming and when i do cad or video encoding it doesnt break 61°.

Only thing i can say is that almost every software has updated to say is a 4 core h- 8 thread cpu and on some games the bottleneck with my rx 470 is inmense (mostly on gta v)

They don't sell 970s with higher than 4+1 here or at least not cheaper than $100

it's great for games that multithread properly
single threaded execution is the past

The cve charts had fx 8000 series on the list with major vulnerabilities last i saw

No shit!?!?!?! That's fucking awesome!! I got this computer for free, then migrated my server to it about a month before the news dropped about spectre and meltdown.

In also going to buy a used lenovo y700 that is amd powered.
That is, if its still available when I get al the money for it in a few days. He has it listed at $300 and the lowest he will go is $250. Is that a good deal? Radeon r7 with 12gb ram

they do, just look at this

ASUS m597 pro first version

>ASUS Digital Power Design :
>- Industry leading Digital 6 +2 Phase Power Design
>- ASUS DIGI+ VRM Utility

M5A97 pro

FX is even more poorfag and laughable than ryzen.

Amd fx 8800p Radeon r7

yeah nothing screams poorfag like being hacked through 10 lines of javascript on any intel CPU since 1995.

I love my 8320. Never had any serious performance issues with it. Put a decent GPU with it and you're golden.

Hush friend.

>spectre

Still doing fine in Premiere and other stuff

8350 here. Works great.

Then you need to sort your build out. Mine rarely goes above 55.

>what's malware stored on firmware
shit uploads itself to keyboards, mice, controllers, even the BIOS hell monitors these days.
you people are very misinformed you if you believe live CDs are safe.

That's almost twice the price of 4+1 and outside my budget
They don't sell that in my country either.


Lads, are you saying 4+1 will be shit for even stock frequencies

How can one be so deluded and far up his own ass?

Using my 8320 + rx 480 to play 1440p no problem.
Feels good man.

>Lads, are you saying 4+1 will be shit for even stock frequencies
nah will work fine, just look at motherboard support list

>FX-8350
>16gb DDR3-2400
>RX550
>$550
Is this what it feels like to be winning?

Still use my 8320 as my workstation. Upgraded my gaming PC to Ryzen.

The Asus 990X EVO (not 990FX) is really good, as long as you don't need the extra PCIe lanes.
It was only slightly more expensive than the 970, and has much better VRM/Chipset cooling.

went from 6300 to zen 1600
thinking about plugging the old system in but don't know what for

FX8350
I may hate it whenever a new unoptimized multiplat or Early Access game comes out, but in the end it's my favourite room heater and powerful enough for me

>literally 4 ghz on 8 cores base clock
intel btfo

Be careful with this. 4+1 VRM designs usually have terrible cooling, so if you aren't using a cooler that blows air over the VRM heatsink, you can burn it out with a high wattage chip.
I did this to an M5A97 with an 8320.

Will the stock cooler for an 8350 suffice if not doing overclocking any time soon?

>tfw using an 8150 on a 4+1 vrm board

Not sure. Depends on which way the cooler is mounted, as it only pushes air sideways out of the cooler.
What burned out on my board was the chipset, causing the first PCIe slot to break, and whole system failure when it got too hot. I could only measure the heatsink, but it would shut down at ~145'c, so the chipset itself would have been over 160'c.
I would recommend something like the L12S, or something from the Cooler Master Gemini line. You could also go with something like the Wraith spire if you're willing to get creative.

most likely, how old is your 8350? the newer ones manufactured in 2016(they made it all the way up to week 52) can be under volted a little, this basically what they did with the FX-83*0e models.

You can get these type of heatsinks, normally for video ram chips.

a bag of 8 cost about 2 to 3 dollars free shipping from china. You can attach them to the VRM's if they are not cooled or stick them on the already existing heatsink surface.

Most boards usually have heatsinks decent enough for the components, it's just a matter of airflow.

8350 and 970. had this for nearly 3 years, it's a beast for the money.

just throw a 212 evo on it. stock cooler get's audible when gaming because it has a small fan which hits insane RPMs.

Just dont do this. I want to buy one for YEARS not jumping into anything *better*

Now the prices increase. Fuck you people you are rude.

Let's say we get
bios update mitigating
bounds-check bypass exploit

what about the
branch target injection?

buying one
what chances are
the bios would
be updated anyway?

let's say,
gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-990FXA-UD3-rev-41#support-dl

(so that bounds-check bypass exploit
would be mitigated)

should not we wait
for new series
and buy them
being immune
to all publicly known
exploits?

although m. e. or psp
are indeed discouraging

we still can hope for proper
hardware, cannot we
although, should we?

>not all machines need security
>opens with namecalling
>plebbit spacing
>wall of text
Has the Judaism ever been so concretely visible?

Reporting in, rocking my FX since 2014.

Fx is shit. Buy a r3 1200.

t. Ryzen owner

FX8350 with a 3GB HD7980. I am poor but more lazy/don't need my GPU.

haven't bought it yet but planning on it because DDR3 ram is 50 bucks cheaper than DDR4

but then i have to spend 200 bucks on ram

I do not think the reach of Sup Forums will increase the prices

Nah there are very cheap modules of 4GB, you only need one of for single channel mode.

Adata, micron etc etc 42- 49 euro's. Also the cheapest boards are around 45 euro plus ryzen 3 1200 also cheap. Better for you if need it as your first system.

FX-8350 is faster multi-threaded than the Ryzen 3 1200, but just barely. Only when you overclock a 8370 to 5Ghz do you get the speed of Ryzen 5 1400 in multi theaded applications. Ryzen 5 and 3 will still be better in single thread though and require less power to do it.

FX-4100 at 4.1ghz reporting in
I only use statistical packages but I still think I should put the poor thing out of its misery

You use only 4GB of ram? Why? Even if this was someone's first system I would never suggest only 4GB.

you can start with 4gb, then go dual channel 8gb.

I use 16GB

My thoughts exactly. If you are on a slim budget it is better buy stuff that can be upgraded later.

So a cheap AM4 board plus one cheap 4GB stick of ram, and then a couple months later add ram or in a year add a different cpu (e.g. not a Ryzen 3 1200 but a ryzen 5 1600x)

if it works, it works.

What about the 1055,1090 and 1100 series? Are they secure?