Everyone laughed at its release at how the performance was not up to what was expected.
Yet the alternative has >Intel ME remote execution bugs, >the almost certainty that Intel ME is a purpose built backdoor >meltdown bug, >susceptibility to Spectre variant 2 which is way more damaging than variant 1 >Considering all of the above by default Intel chips are not secure.
Ryzen has PSP which is similar to Intel ME, the FX-series do not have such a system. With micro code patched for spectre one and with the Core boot folks making great progress for Bulldozer.
This is the best time to buy yourself the last remaining FX chips, because future revelations surely find new issues with ME and PSP.
lol yes buy my AMD chip while i scoop up some dirt cheap intel.
Dominic Ross
>being dumb enough to buy anything intel in current year
get off Sup Forums retardlet
Anthony Wilson
Good goy
Juan Gray
Where are my FX brothers?
Matthew Ross
Got a Ryzen but also still use my FX-8370e for media center, watching movies etc. Most stable system I ever had runs months on end without issue
Hunter Long
8350 running on my server. It's a great CPU, especially if you don't gayme.
Jordan Gomez
Just upgraded the 8350 to a Ryzen 7 1700. It was/is a great CPU but it's showing it's age in some modern games.
Noah Cook
9590 reporting and running strong with a kraken X61 AIO. Got it for the same price as a FX-8350 and kraken X61 for a good deal and usable if I ever decide to upgrade.
Dominic Gonzalez
""""8350""" is what I use in my desktop, can run anything maxed out gtfo. Only retards bought the 8350 over the 8320 when only difference was 0.5ghz you could OC for 20% cheaper.
Carson Mitchell
the fx-8370e would be the best though, base clock is low but it can clock to 5.2Ghz without to much hassle on lower voltage.
Gavin Allen
>whose laughing nao
Caleb Smith
Children, not all machines need security. Do you not know to use a Coreboot/Libreboot Thinkpad with a live Linux image which doesn't use or touch a hard disk?
Build your gaymen box with whatever. Of course that will run live distros (you can easily make live WinPE and related live ,isos too, FalconFour is a handy toolkit example) and boot them on UEFI if make using Rufus.
You can also skip the above and boot Knoppix, which has the tools to remaster itself so you can roll your own live distro. Knoppix should be in everyone's toolkit. Great for data rescue too.
Your hardware doesn't matter if it never gets attacked in the first place. Your host OS could be a waterfall of malware but it doesn't run if you don't boot it, and exploits against ME won't work if the attacker never gets access while you are booted to a live OS because he/she/xir cannot conveniently cover every base. They just hunt retarded Winfags mostly.
If the NSA wants you, and it doesn't, you're done anyway. Skiddies OTOH ain't the NS fucking A.
I hope these bugs chase millions of workstations and servers out of corporate hands so I can score a couple cheap. This will be great for corporate sales, great for competition (if Intel and AMD didn't compete your dumbass teentard selves couldn't afford good PCs) and great for IT jobs. It's all win.
Gavin Diaz
Are you retarded? The 8320 couldn't overclock like the 8350 could. Good luck getting anywhere near 5GHz.
Julian Davis
can i has an pre psp apu for a comfy and secure shitposting machine?
Joseph Ramirez
You misunderstood, assuming you are running stock because that wasn't the argument if the thread is about stock FX series, the 8320 was a better deal if you do a minor to put it on par with more expensive 8350, dont move the goalpost
Carson Jones
>you could OC for 20% cheaper. Or you could, you know, get the 8350 on sale, for dirt cheap. You've assumed too much.
William Hall
>on sale
youre still just moving the goalpost fuck off youre shit at discussion, the absolute state of Sup Forums...
Owen Price
>can i has an pre psp apu for a comfy and secure shitposting machine? yes, but you need the pre 2014 ones, later APU's got PSP, so for example a A10-5800k
FX Vishera was built until the end of 2016, you can still buy them new.
That's literally the scenario I experienced. You're the dildo who comes barging in telling people (who you know nothing about) that they are retards because of some imagined scenario, that you put forth only in your mind.There's nothing about stock/non-stock in this thread prior to your autism attack.
Henry Richardson
>resorting to ad hominem
saged and hidden
Daniel Johnson
that one actually has PSP
Juan Young
I doubt you could even manage that, autismo.
Logan Parker
6350 OC'd to 4ghz running at 1.24~ vcore, splendid CPU
Gabriel James
Dying from heat stroke from being in the same room as an FX8350 for too long
Evan Martinez
FX is OLD and SLOW
It's [current year]
Ayden Garcia
@5Ghz it is still as fast as the i5 from feb 2017 and Ryzen 5 1400 in multithread stuff.
Only muh games might be an argument
Bentley Lopez
>tfw I have a perfectly good FX-6300 and FX-9370 but all good am3+ motherboards are insane stupid money.
I should have never bought into Intel. When my Sabertooth 990FX died, I should have just gotten a replacement. I shouldn't have bought that i5-4690k and Z97 setup.
Benjamin Thomas
you can buy second hand ones for not too much money, most go for around $30 for 990fx
Adam Scott
using my FX8350 to mine monero and heat my first floor
Juan Wood
I have my old 6300 in the closet. Disapointing pos cpu desu. Always regreted buying it
Luke Jenkins
Thinking of buying an FX-8320 and 4+1 power phase mobo (asrock or gigabyte). Only got DDR3 RAM. Worth it? Please respond.
Cameron Reed
I looked both on Amazon and Ebay, All of the 970 Chipset boards are minimum $60. All of the good 990FX boards are $150-$200. $400+ for the really good ones.
And apparently Zotac made some 880G am3 socket mITX motherboard.
David Martin
you won't be overclocking. Like at all. 6+1 power phase boards are required to lean on FX.
Lucas Cooper
Using an old FX-6300. I'm thinking of picking up a Ryzen for my Devil's Canyon PC that I use at my other house.
Jace Lewis
Got my fx 8320 running at 4500 while editing 4k video all cores @100% not too hot with the case open
Christopher Watson
I've got an FX 8300 as my server cpu. A task it excels at. Meanwhile my Desktop uses a Phenom II x4 955. Both systems use the same motherboard.
Anthony Russell
I don't want to OC, just to achieve advertised turbo frequency.
Caleb Gonzalez
You could try foreign ebay or community sites, to get them somewhat cheaper.
nice board, but AM3 boards needed a bios update to work with am3+ cpu's, also am3+ has thicker pins, it might work.
Bentley Evans
turbo is shite. and it's very unlikely to run at advertised turbo rate on all cores
Josiah Hernandez
Hmm...So do you think 4+1 has a chance at all?
Easton Rogers
>4+1 power phase mobo the cheaper 970 boards all come with more and are not that expensive, better go for those.
Jaxson Jenkins
What about the amd athlon 64 3200+ Is that secure?
Mason Young
everything before FX is secure and without psp
Levi Price
Running my 8320 since a few months after it launched.
I have it running at 4.6 on 1.4v with a shitty h80i v2 on a first gen 970 mobo (designed for the shittier bulldozer cores) it doesnt break 57° at gayming and when i do cad or video encoding it doesnt break 61°.
Only thing i can say is that almost every software has updated to say is a 4 core h- 8 thread cpu and on some games the bottleneck with my rx 470 is inmense (mostly on gta v)
Isaac Diaz
They don't sell 970s with higher than 4+1 here or at least not cheaper than $100
Bentley Butler
it's great for games that multithread properly single threaded execution is the past
Nicholas Hall
The cve charts had fx 8000 series on the list with major vulnerabilities last i saw
Alexander Gray
No shit!?!?!?! That's fucking awesome!! I got this computer for free, then migrated my server to it about a month before the news dropped about spectre and meltdown.
Gabriel Morgan
In also going to buy a used lenovo y700 that is amd powered. That is, if its still available when I get al the money for it in a few days. He has it listed at $300 and the lowest he will go is $250. Is that a good deal? Radeon r7 with 12gb ram
Matthew Barnes
they do, just look at this
ASUS m597 pro first version
>ASUS Digital Power Design : >- Industry leading Digital 6 +2 Phase Power Design >- ASUS DIGI+ VRM Utility
Brayden Phillips
M5A97 pro
Dominic Myers
FX is even more poorfag and laughable than ryzen.
Oliver Baker
Amd fx 8800p Radeon r7
Parker Martinez
yeah nothing screams poorfag like being hacked through 10 lines of javascript on any intel CPU since 1995.
Sebastian Price
I love my 8320. Never had any serious performance issues with it. Put a decent GPU with it and you're golden.
Dominic Kelly
Hush friend.
Adam Thompson
>spectre
Lincoln Taylor
Still doing fine in Premiere and other stuff
Elijah Brooks
8350 here. Works great.
Samuel Ward
Then you need to sort your build out. Mine rarely goes above 55.
Jonathan Torres
>what's malware stored on firmware shit uploads itself to keyboards, mice, controllers, even the BIOS hell monitors these days. you people are very misinformed you if you believe live CDs are safe.
Isaiah Sullivan
That's almost twice the price of 4+1 and outside my budget They don't sell that in my country either.
Lads, are you saying 4+1 will be shit for even stock frequencies
Jonathan Johnson
How can one be so deluded and far up his own ass?
Gavin Harris
Using my 8320 + rx 480 to play 1440p no problem. Feels good man.
William Cruz
>Lads, are you saying 4+1 will be shit for even stock frequencies nah will work fine, just look at motherboard support list
William Murphy
>FX-8350 >16gb DDR3-2400 >RX550 >$550 Is this what it feels like to be winning?
Carter Rivera
Still use my 8320 as my workstation. Upgraded my gaming PC to Ryzen.
Sebastian Myers
The Asus 990X EVO (not 990FX) is really good, as long as you don't need the extra PCIe lanes. It was only slightly more expensive than the 970, and has much better VRM/Chipset cooling.
Jaxson Moore
went from 6300 to zen 1600 thinking about plugging the old system in but don't know what for
Ethan Perez
FX8350 I may hate it whenever a new unoptimized multiplat or Early Access game comes out, but in the end it's my favourite room heater and powerful enough for me
Gavin Rodriguez
>literally 4 ghz on 8 cores base clock intel btfo
Matthew Cox
Be careful with this. 4+1 VRM designs usually have terrible cooling, so if you aren't using a cooler that blows air over the VRM heatsink, you can burn it out with a high wattage chip. I did this to an M5A97 with an 8320.
Josiah Jenkins
Will the stock cooler for an 8350 suffice if not doing overclocking any time soon?
Logan Jones
>tfw using an 8150 on a 4+1 vrm board
Elijah Perez
Not sure. Depends on which way the cooler is mounted, as it only pushes air sideways out of the cooler. What burned out on my board was the chipset, causing the first PCIe slot to break, and whole system failure when it got too hot. I could only measure the heatsink, but it would shut down at ~145'c, so the chipset itself would have been over 160'c. I would recommend something like the L12S, or something from the Cooler Master Gemini line. You could also go with something like the Wraith spire if you're willing to get creative.
Tyler Morgan
most likely, how old is your 8350? the newer ones manufactured in 2016(they made it all the way up to week 52) can be under volted a little, this basically what they did with the FX-83*0e models.
Oliver Perry
You can get these type of heatsinks, normally for video ram chips.
a bag of 8 cost about 2 to 3 dollars free shipping from china. You can attach them to the VRM's if they are not cooled or stick them on the already existing heatsink surface.
Juan King
Most boards usually have heatsinks decent enough for the components, it's just a matter of airflow.
Eli Watson
8350 and 970. had this for nearly 3 years, it's a beast for the money.
Anthony Ortiz
just throw a 212 evo on it. stock cooler get's audible when gaming because it has a small fan which hits insane RPMs.
Logan Martin
Just dont do this. I want to buy one for YEARS not jumping into anything *better*
Now the prices increase. Fuck you people you are rude.
Angel Richardson
Let's say we get bios update mitigating bounds-check bypass exploit
what about the branch target injection?
buying one what chances are the bios would be updated anyway?
(so that bounds-check bypass exploit would be mitigated)
should not we wait for new series and buy them being immune to all publicly known exploits?
although m. e. or psp are indeed discouraging
we still can hope for proper hardware, cannot we although, should we?
Connor Ward
>not all machines need security >opens with namecalling >plebbit spacing >wall of text Has the Judaism ever been so concretely visible?
Jason Perez
Reporting in, rocking my FX since 2014.
Joshua Davis
Fx is shit. Buy a r3 1200.
t. Ryzen owner
Hudson Richardson
FX8350 with a 3GB HD7980. I am poor but more lazy/don't need my GPU.
Connor Ramirez
haven't bought it yet but planning on it because DDR3 ram is 50 bucks cheaper than DDR4
Adrian Taylor
but then i have to spend 200 bucks on ram
Michael Clark
I do not think the reach of Sup Forums will increase the prices
Jace White
Nah there are very cheap modules of 4GB, you only need one of for single channel mode.
Adata, micron etc etc 42- 49 euro's. Also the cheapest boards are around 45 euro plus ryzen 3 1200 also cheap. Better for you if need it as your first system.
FX-8350 is faster multi-threaded than the Ryzen 3 1200, but just barely. Only when you overclock a 8370 to 5Ghz do you get the speed of Ryzen 5 1400 in multi theaded applications. Ryzen 5 and 3 will still be better in single thread though and require less power to do it.
Caleb Rodriguez
FX-4100 at 4.1ghz reporting in I only use statistical packages but I still think I should put the poor thing out of its misery
Christian Sanchez
You use only 4GB of ram? Why? Even if this was someone's first system I would never suggest only 4GB.
James Brown
you can start with 4gb, then go dual channel 8gb.
Julian Miller
I use 16GB
My thoughts exactly. If you are on a slim budget it is better buy stuff that can be upgraded later.
So a cheap AM4 board plus one cheap 4GB stick of ram, and then a couple months later add ram or in a year add a different cpu (e.g. not a Ryzen 3 1200 but a ryzen 5 1600x)
Parker Collins
if it works, it works.
Anthony Sanders
What about the 1055,1090 and 1100 series? Are they secure?