Why they haven't united?

Why they haven't united?

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>ukraine
no such thing

Don't worrry, they'll both be under the russian flag in our lifetime

>Ukraine
No such thing.
Also, UPA happened.

>both countries have fought brutal wars and commited acts of genocide on the other

Yeah, why the fuck don't they?

This is why.

poles never forgive and never forget?

>still glorifying war criminals in 2016
You should read up about UPA and what they did. it's literally stomach-churning. Germany bans Nazi shit today it's not banned in Ukraine at all.

Not when it involves the literal massacre of men, women and children.

>Ukraine's national hero is unironically a war criminal

doesn't apply when people are marching in the street in support of these people

yeah yeah, I know the whole Wolyn thing, it was horrible I know, but it's been so long time since that happened, that's why my question

>forgive

>forget

error in translation

>yeah yeah, I know the whole Wolyn thing, it was horrible I know, but it's been so long time since that happened, that's why my question

So then they should stop glorifying this period of their history. it would be like having parade in US celebrating lynching of black people in 1800s.

>Ukraine has the same flag as the Croatian Kingdom of Dalmatia within Austro-Hungary
>Poland has the same flag as the Croatian Kingdom of Croatia within Austro-Hungary except upside-down
>Ukraine and Poland are seen as traditional friends by Croats
Amusing.

proving my point. Ustashi shit is banned in Croatia the way it should be in any civilized country.

NATO is trying.

They wanted Crimea and Eastern Ukraine to break away because they'd be the largest opposition to the union.

HOWEVER they first have to destroy all the infrastructure and opposition before they can make a clean break (Crimea got away too quickly. Donbas not so much).

Poland/Ukraine union in 50yrs. Screen cap this.

>Ukraine's national hero is unironically a war criminal

Funny that because one of our biggest national heroes was a war criminal as well who razed whole cities to the ground and destroyed the US Constitution and states rights forever.

It's not about what happened back then, it's about how modern Ukrainians treat it today.
Their government gave Bandera a national hero status just a few years ago. How are we supposed to make up and let bygones be bygones when they have literal parades glorifying rapists and mass murderers from UPA? And on the top of that they try to organize them in Poland (Przemyśl).
It's as if German neonazis made a parade through Tel Aviv claiming that "yeah whatever maybe Hitler did some bad stuff, but hey, he loved Germany and we honour him for it!" and when the locals protest everyone else is like "oh come on, it was a long time ago, don't be so butthurt and let it go".
This shit should illegal, just like nazi and gommie stuff is.

Kill yourself.

as far as I can tell, Ukraine is the only country in Europe that doesn't ban Nazi shit.

lel this always triggers you Lublinqt

well from the outside it seems like the ukies were trying to trigger the poles with such attitude, but if they aren't then I seriously don't get why they idolize him so much

also,

>gommie stuff
>banned

as far as I know that's only in murrica, or is it banned in Poland too?

>Their government gave Bandera a national hero status just a few years ago.
Stop triggering, that desicion was overturned in 2011 yet.

>ukraine

no such thing

I don't think razing cities comes even close to what UPA did, we're talking about "bayoneting babies and stabbing pregnant women with pitchforks" levels of fucked up here.
What is the opinion on Petlura in Ukraine? Why it was Bandera that your cunt decided to pick as your "heroj"?

>ukraine
no such thing

All public display of totalitarian symbols or glorification of fascism and communism is banned in Poland also any political parties or organizations relating to same.

>What is the opinion on Petlura in Ukraine?
Unlike Bandera, almost nobody gives a fuck about Petlura.
>Why it was Bandera that your cunt decided to pick as your "heroj"?
Well, I'm from the cyka blyat eastern ukraine, "banderite" is used to be a harsh word here. Actually, only politically abused cucks from the western part praise him as a "hero".

Not to mention that UPA murdered plenty of Ukrainians as well.
>as far as I know that's only in murrica, or is it banned in Poland too?
I think it's kind of a grey area in 'murrica, because otherwise youtube.com/watch?v=lEvWDwZYvk8 this kind of shit wouldn't be tolerated
And yes, of course gommunism is illegal in Poland, just like nazism or any totalitarian system threatening the basic freedoms granted by our state.

curious, here you can buy commie books and stuff almost anywhere

the nazi stuff is actually banned, even though you can get some mein kampfs and other related books if you know where to look, they're pretty rare

>of course gommunism is illegal in Poland
based, I wish we have had many years of communism in the past as well, to make people hate that shit instead of make it look like an ideal
Venezuela's ghost isn't enough

Well, I doubt having a gommie book or mein kampf at your home would get you in trouble. "Public display" are the keywords here.
>Well, I'm from the cyka blyat eastern ukraine, "banderite" is used to be a harsh word here. Actually, only politically abused cucks from the western part praise him as a "hero".
Interesting
It's a relief to know you're not all murderniggers

We are not German barbarians, we don't ban books.

>"Public display" are the keywords here.

we have those pretty often here, they even have a political party, called ''labor movement'' or something like that

we have too much jews then, I guess, that explains it

>curious, here you can buy commie books and stuff almost anywhere
Your country wasn't occupied and destroyed by communism. our entire intellectual class, government officials, army officers, and anyone with an education was shot by NKVD or exiled to Siberia or Kazakhstan to work as slave labor.

I'm not kidding, the hatred for communism here is still very real.

yeah, that's why I said this the youth here is naive, brainwashed and stupid

Must be because Argentina were big German/Naziboos back in the day. Check out those uniforms.

RIP

This is pretty fucking horrible

the only Poles who think communism was a good idea are 70 year olds who used to work for PWP and sometimes their retard kids.

dey gud bois

in part is because of that, part because we have tons of jews and because the politicians here pretend to be politically correct

>one of the more developed eastern european nations with a an african tier shithole full of aids and violence

Why should they fucking unite?

also, most of people here is still Germanboo af

Now funny thing is that Poles act like Russia is the worst thing ever when the KGB were the guys who eventually hunted down and assassinated Stepan Bandera.

The entire Southern Cone and Brazil went through a fascist phase back then. Idiot communists like to blame the CIA for 1960s-70s dictatorships in South America when really it was just an extension of the region's old flirtation with fascism.

yeah but they didn't care about UPA butchering Poles, only that they also butchered Russians and of course were aligned with Germany.

Ukraine genocide 200 000 Polish citizens during ww2
Poland is a bit butthurt about it

Guess who else Soviets hunted down and killed

We can't even properly maintain and develop our current territory, imagine if we had an additional burden of second Poland but 3 times as poor.

but just a bit

Suck it.

If genocidal assholes kill a genocidal asshole it doesn't make any of them any less of genocidal assholes.
Scale-wise KGB did far more damage to Poland than banderites ever could dream of, but UPA excelled in their vicious choice of methods and targets.

Ukraine is the poorest country in Europe. Why would Poland want it? I doubt even Russia wants to annex them. They only wanted Crimea.

As long as they keep the Captain Planet coming, I'm ok with them. ;)

Ukraine is fucking redneck country. Its Africa, not Europe

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Because butthurt.

becuase they don't need a son called Polkraine

good point

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what do ukrainians think about their nazi collaboration? did the soviets totally erase that history, or do they still remember it?

They probably liked them because they were better than the Soviets. These polish posters claim that Stalin gave bandera orders to kill poles

>It's a relief to know you're not all murderniggers
Kek, welcome to real world, kid

Ukrainians from the east you probably wished dozen times to be killed by Putin had nothing in common with Wołyń and don't praise UPA.

Oh, yeah, evil Stalin is worse than a band of faggots that was raping and murdering children and women.

Stalin is responsible for 60 million deaths so yeah he is worse but that wasn't my point

the number is overblown by like 5 times even if you blame him personally for famine deaths as well as for repression deaths

Like it's any better to have your entire intellectual class, all property owners, and all patriots deported to Siberian death camps and education in schools replaced by Marxism, propaganda, and Russian history and literature courses.

I'm mostly ok with ukrainians unless they're banderites.

I traveled a lot, that might be the reason. I saw that it's much better to have ukrainian immigrants than muslims or africans.

cuck

It's weird how much of a piece of shit Lincoln was, and how celebrated he is today.

The only good thing about him is that he got his brains blown out, and died with his war.

Wasn't Lincoln racist himself, and was planning to deport blacks to Liberia? Why do modern Americans treat him as some of hero who stopped racism.

It was done out of desperation and opportunity.

Ukrainians wanted the Soviets out, so they saw supporting the Nazi's as a way to do that. They didn't know the Nazi's plans or intentions. They just knew they hated Communists as much as they did so they cheered them on initially. Of course eventually when they realized how just as bad the Nazi's were the UPA began fighting both of them.

american education + propaganda and fake morale

Nonetheless, there was at least one Ukrainian Waffen SS division active until late in the war.

Yes, and that Neo Nazi element is still somewhat present in the country.

It's a curious thing. Even some members of my (Ukrainian) family maintain that if the Nazi's had won Ukraine would be better off today.

It's a very strong Anti-Communist sentiment. Often when you hate something extreme, you turn to the opposite extreme.

>my (Ukrainian) family
>Ukrainian
You have too many mistakes in the word "Jewish"

Bandera didn't kill millions of people because Soviet Union stopped him. He was crazy as Hitler.

"No"

Why are polaks so whiny bitches after they got payback for shit they done earlier?


>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacification_of_Ukrainians_in_Eastern_Galicia

MUH WOLIN

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camps_for_Russian_prisoners_and_internees_in_Poland_(1919–24)

MUH KATYN

Yeah, polaks always were the greatest assholes through the european history but they are always barking that they are good guys surrounded by bad guys.

That wasn't my point. My point was that poles in this site are delusional and butthurt to be taken seriously

>>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacification_of_Ukrainians_in_Eastern_Galicia

>be terrorist
>suprised govermant wants you pacified

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camps_for_Russian_prisoners_and_internees_in_Poland_(1919–24)

>come to "liberate" independent Country
>surprised you're not treated nicely

Hohols, never change

>israel
no such a thing

Stupid polaks never change.

But the camps of death is not the better way to solve the problem. Trust me.

if you think russia is better than ukraine you're retard

Pycoфoбы пoдъeхaли.

пиздeц ты eбaнyтoe живoтнoe
peaльныe фaкты гoвopить тeпepь pycoфoбcтвo? yбeй ceбя мpaзь eбaнaя

>Occupy western Ukraine
>Be suprised they butcher you in response.

>Утвepждaeт, чтo Poccия нe лyчшe Укpaины
>He дoлбaёб
Bыбepи oднo.

hohol detected

>Stupid polaks never change.
nice argument m8
It can still me some sort of solution, almost final.

I mean that logic works in both directions. If you whine about UPA.don't forget you did pretty much the same things.

>Occupy western Ukraine
I bet Hohols would feel better in USSR, am i right goys?

>Go through famine

>surprised you starved to death


such is life on the soviet frontier

we did not but now that you're talking - we should have

Well after the war they lived better than you.

He's right tho about hypocrisy
We've been impaling Rusins durin PLC which they responded with the bloodbath of Chmielnicki's uprising, and we've been treating them like shit during II RP, to which they responded with Wołyń

While Wołyń was a subhuman-tier mass crime, speaking of it and forgetting how Poles treated their minorities is just shortsighted

Actually, yes. We didn't kill them.

Dindus of Europe.

shut up, cuck, remove salo

>Russian flag
The authorities of Russian SFSR did, to which the society of the republic did not respond with anything worth mentioning, so yes, you did.