Amazon launched their first no checkout store today

Amazon launched their first no checkout store today.
So, how long before this concept is abandoned?

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>how long before this concept is abandoned
what do you mean
it's the future
everyone is trying to do it

depends on how many nigs are in the area

They already killed it by introducing same day delivery of groceries.

surprisingly accurate post

Pretty sure time #5 they get a group of 7-13 high-school/college-age nig nogs jumping gates and grabbing shit, they'll knock it off.

same day is not NOW
imagine coming from work and having shit to eat
you need it NOW

Having checkout is now racist.

As long as they don't sell watermelons, it might work.

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Abandoned. No. Cracked or hacked. If they open more of those, give it a couple of months.

Holy shit you can see the space needle from there haha that's crazy.

>When you arrive, use the app to enter the store
I don't think they even let you in the store without the app and account linked. That said I'm not sure how they prevent entry, maybe a turnstile or the door is just locked

I wouldn't be a retard and would have my diet and groceries planned out?

I'm sure they will have a guard at the door.

The advertising data sold to understand your shopping habits and interests is more profitable than any losses occurred from theft in these stores.

well I don't think amazon did their market study specifically about you, did they?

So, as I understand it, you need a smartphone with the amazon app to even get into the place.

So the primary point of security is not letting in criminals in the first place.

At the very least, they'd need what costco does with blockers at the entrance and exits.

>going to a store just to deal with you faggots
no plz

How does this work?

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learn to read faggot

TOADLINE CHECKOUT
SOFTWARE CRACKED AND HACKED

>mask over face to block camera
>take what you want
>leave through fire door exit

App has qr code tired to account
cameras track your body's movements to see where you go
cameras, aided by sensors in the aisles, also track what you take and what you merely look at and put back
account gets automatically charged

pretty much this

they'll find a way to rob them, the nogs are quite good at that

Yeah, read the non-existing linked article faggot.

JOB CREATORS

No, I need to stock my fucking pantry while getting the best deals, not buy food everyday.

I just (in the fleeting now of a moment ago) finished a nice ribeye because I wanted it "now". The chest freezer will be restocked before I run out.

Improved logistics doesn't mean "lean" is always good.

Don't be such an angry, lazy retard. You can get your own MAN pages, you can figure out how this shit works.

Regardless of the outcome, I expect to see this kind of tracking tech in all stores, sooner rather than later.

There's no way this store can exist without some level of physical security.

Vid related. A gas station store in montreal.

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>Regardless of the outcome, I expect to see this kind of tracking tech in all stores, sooner rather than later.
It does seem like a good way to track down shoplifters.
Considering the turnstiles are waist-high, and Amazon claims all the employees only restock shelves (or check ID in the liquor store), I have no idea how they'd handle someone simply jumping over the turnstile, though.

You want minimum wage?

Here's your replacement ;)

>implying replacement is bad
They are always positive in every single case of human history.

Most likely this is a pilot to test Amazon's security system. There are over 90 cameras in the store that track your every movement. Eventually this technology will be implemented in the streets.

Getting rid of human interaction is a terrible idea in this case.
People bitch and moan that it's impossible to get in contact with a human for Google.
Just wait until people get charged shitloads for stuff they didn't buy with this and they can't do anything about it.

you can only fix it with better technology

humans are able to lie too

I'm pretty sure of them will have that amazon app in their phone that will know who they are by the time they pick up the item and leave, hell if you don't have the amazon app you don't know what the sensors well even pick up since a lot of apps have amazon services

lets just make everything communist. thats where we are all headed anyway.

noone is going to stop robbers becuase most fo their shit is pennies anyway.

blacks cant have nice things becuase whites wont allow it.

So how does this work if you simply don't go into the store with your phone or your phone is dead? Are you not allowed to shop or something? Do they have some kind of facial recognition and they just search a database for a match and bill you directly if you don't have an amazon account?

What are people supposed to do? Accept $0.20 an hour and not be able to afford anything?

So, what security measures do you think they're adding? I imagine a camera pointed at every shelf that can automatically count items.

I can't imagine them RFID'ing the yogurt, but definitely the wine.

I also imagine they'll want a warehouse without barcodes one day.

Smartphone w amazon app and battery required for now.

The economic fundamentals don't change. People in a capitalist society need to carve out something they can do that people with capital are willing to pay them for, and that something they do is constantly changing.

>I can't imagine them RFID'ing the yogurt
That's exactly what they're doing, they'll RFID every goddamn thing
>it'll become the new price tag

amazon won't abandon their flagship store since it's for employees, but in general the idea doesn't work because regular people will just buy everything online and avoid stepping into a store at all

also

>The economic fundamentals don't change

While the economy would eventually be forced to change if employers didn't pay their employees enough to afford the goods and services they are selling it won't react instantly and there is a period of dead time right after minimum wage elimination goes into effect where the workers can't afford anything but companies still have enough money banked away to ride out the storm for a little while. The nightmare starts immediately for unskilled workers but takes awhile for it to reach business owners and CEOs as well.

Likewise minimum wage increases have a positive instantaneous effect for workers as they receive an immediate benefit and it takes some time for the economy to react and raise prices such as to negate it.

make 11:59pm your dinner time

Good luck stealing. With the number of cameras, it'll be easy for the cops to track you down and fuck you with a night stick.

White people will buy shit online

Blacks just go to Wal-Mart

Easy fix: require users to enter a unique pin to enter the store (supplied through the Amazon app) and have someone monitor the doors to make sure only one person enters. Have double doors for entry and exit, and cage anybody trying to shoplift

> stock my fucking pantry while getting the best deals

Poverty ladies and gentlemen.

I wonder how long it's going to take before idiots (or thieves) think the Amazing Go app works on every store and they start walking out without paying for anything.

Communism may feel like something that works but it don't.
Instead, it's your feelings that are being played like a fiddle to think it will work "if tried just the right way".
If you want to replace capitalism, you will need actual hard science and development to come up with an actually better system.

Those literal french niggas
kek

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Im sure the horses said the same thing

In China, I could order food and have it delivered in less than 30 minutes. Sometimes longer, sometimes less, but always less than an hour.
If you can't wait one hour to eat food you need to rethink your entire food situation. Or KYS.

>I also imagine they'll want a warehouse without barcodes one day.
My god. No forklifts too, just automated picking machines on rails. It's horrible but also really interesting.
It's truly horrible for China, but human labor is so cheap there it will take at least 10 years before their workers have to worry about that.

If companies could pay 0.20$ per hour they would. But that said, nobody should expect to raise a family on minimum wage. Minimum wage is for kids who don't have any work history or skills.
Abolishing minimum wage has a few problems, namely, existing unions, corporate greed, and the price of goods as you explained.
Could Walmart make a profit if chicken soup is only 0.20$, and employees earn 0.20$ per hour? Yea, they probably would still make a killer profit. But as you said, the time needed for Walmart to find that 0.20$ equilibrium price point would fucking destroy unskilled workers, and later, CEO/business owner income.

>Roughly 25% of latin american/blacks don't have checking accounts
>Amazon's store doesn't take food stamps
>People get triggered.
What the fuck? I've had a fucking bank account since I was like 7. Do these people literally not have jobs? How do they cash their paychecks?
The

copying Walmart much??

It depends, can you please provide some data about the number of niggers in the area?

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you people are retarded. You have to use your smart phone linked to an amazon account JUST TO WALK IN THE DOOR. they already have your info by the time you walk in. you can't steal. as you pick up and put down items in the store they add and remove them from your virtual cart. when you walk out the door you are charged. even if a group of kids walks in whoever used their phone to let their friends who are stealing in is going to be charged.

I’m actually really excited by this concept, but it currently doesn’t seem scalable outside of cities. If suburban mom and her kid go to the local Amazon Go, the kid gets denied entry or is let in. If let in and the kid grabs a cupcake and hands it to mommy, how is that interaction handled? It also doesn’t seem like a place where you’d buy more than a tote bag of items.

this desu.
It will fail if its in some garbage dump of a city in murica.
It will work in any first world country/city with low crimerate. I can already see the nigs posting them stealing on social media.

This is a good point. I have read a lot of reviews of the new store and how they couldn't fool the system, but people shopping in groups was never tested.

>So, how long before this concept is abandoned?
As soon as they put one in Chicago

Robot security guards my dude

that's funneh because i live in Chicago and you're rite about that

What's the legality on charging you with theft for things your friends stole?

>So, how long before this concept is abandoned?

Not until the masses start to care about privacy (read: never)

Here in the Netherlands a lot of supermarkets allow you to do the checkout yourself.

Eh that's not true. If i could get the shit i normally find great deals on in store, if prefer having it same day as oppose to 2-5 later. And that's it you even have prime shipping and all that gay shit

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So just scan and buy some one or two items and take the rest. I'm not even black and I can see what will happen.

Now fuck off.

>steal things
>go back later to try to steal more
>the botnet knows everything, EVERYTHING about you
>plays subtle songs and subtly adjusts light in a way that convinces you to waste every single penny you have on the most overmarked products on the store

Hundreds of cameras tracking your every movement.

Spooky shit if you ask me. I'm never anywhere near that thing.

Which totally negates the point of that store

This is a store where everyone's a thief, but you always get caught and charged from your credit card.

You think there aren't camera watching you when you go to a normal super market?

Not really.

Probably some simple tracking, if at all. Not tracking my every fucking movement with hundreds of a cameras.

Don't see what's the big difference when you are getting recorded one way or the other, but you do you.

no we already own you

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But don't take everyone that rejects it as a full supporter of all the Sup Forums policies.
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are you implying that right now /po/ is not irrelevant ?

there's a difference between a single "1080p" camera that won't be able to resolve you at all and needs to be correlated with up close footage of you entering the store to tell who you are, and hundreds of actual 1080p cameras accurate enough to track your gait down to 1mm and stable enough to track your unique heart beat biometrics.

imagine a special forces unit being tasked to track you down and kill you. what would you rather them have, a single full body image of you taken with an average iphone and your name... or a dataset containing everything you've ever worn, your most likely escape routes, your personal fears, the food in your fridge, your weapons and the ammunition you have for them, hundreds of thousands of shots of you from every single angle compiled over 15 years, accurate gait measurements, and access to a national system that can pinpoint you anywhere in the country based on your gait?

privacy leaks are unavoidable, but that doesn't mean that we should just start posting everything we're doing to the internet.

The point is to make more money by getting rid of expensive humans. If you’re simply trading human labor here for human labor there, there is no savings, you still would have the extra costs of managing such systems which would probably be higher than using current barcode and normal checkout systems with a human.

You have absolutely no idea of the costs you are talking about. It would be cheaper to have human check outs at $20 a hour

gait measurements aren't hard to obtain and cameras can already detect heart beats from a distance. just last year there was a paper showing how a single camera focused on a small item on a table behind a pane of glass could obtain the same audio recording performance as a laser microphone. amazon can't do it now, but they do have the hardware and the capability to do it if they want to.

hes right though. this is precisely what amazon intends
its like a maze for laboratory mice

Tesco has been rolling out their self-scan system where you carry a portable scanner with you, then at the end you spend like 30 seconds paying and leave. Apparently it's working (otherwise they wouldn't be pushing it), the scanners are cheap and shitty as fuck yet work just fine, and there's no need to have your every movement tracked by cameras.

>no one talking about how they will track your shopping list which will be sold along your credit card data

We have the same system here in Holland. The checkout register prints a receipt that you need to open up the checkout gates. Occasionally the gate signals an employee for a random checkup to see if you really scanned all the products in your basket. I guess the money they lose on people smuggling out products is less than the money they save by the cashiers they don't have to pay any more.
That's pretty much a given. I'm still waiting on a real purpose for big data besides tailored ads.

how does it feel to be stupider than every nigger?

> I guess the money they lose on people smuggling out products is less than the money they save by the cashiers they don't have to pay any more.
Basically this. That said, ahmeds don't steal nearly as much as tyrones, so this model may not work in some areas of the US.

This man has never actually tried amazon fresh

When they lose more in shoplifting than they make in sales.

>Implying this can't happen at any store

>Holland
Damn, I miss shopping at AH.

I was actually thinking of doing that and was in process of designing a similar system.
Fuck you, Amazon.
(Then again not that I would have money to open it.)

That. That shop is Big Brother multiplied.

Isn't this done already by credit card companies?