How often do you personally give to the poor, Sup Forums? My question especially goes to secular Europe

How often do you personally give to the poor, Sup Forums? My question especially goes to secular Europe

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I help myself to some snacks every now and then

I give to myself all the time.

>my 15 year old sister is richer than me

This

If I'm being honest,
I'll give to people who are tapping on the street when I'm with my girlfriend.
If there's a charity event for focus Ireland (homelessness) or SVP (Poverty) then I'll give. But these events are rarely on in my area.

My sister has convinced me to raise €500 for focus Ireland, when I raise the money I go skydiving..... Yay..

Why did you use Randy as your OP picture

Never

I sometimes give money to street performers, mostly in Lisbon

buy various breakfast items from mcdonalds on my way to work, give them to the homeless still asleep in show openings at like 6am. if i see a homeless person with a dog, if there's a shop near, i buy a bunch of dog food and give it to them

Can't remember how long ago it was I gave money to someone wanting it "for the bus". I don't work in the CBD anymore so I'm not where people panhandle.
Bought my last Big Issue say 2 years ago.
Donated $500 to reffos 4 years ago but paradoxically decided to give charity a miss while I pay off my mortgage because the stupid fuckers decided to spend all my money on sending me begging letters. Charity administrative overhead is a huge problem in Australia.

Every month when i pay taxes

This is precisely the answer OP is trolling for

I sometimes give 5 kuna to a gypsy.

It's always the same gypsy.

She's the only person who's happy to see me and says hi to me.

Why? Im proud that i give money to the poor people in Africa it makes me a good person

I once gave a cool to a gypsie and she just asked for more and showed me her asthma medicine XD she was kinda rude

I mean "a coin" , not "a cool"

We don't have poor people here. I have done it a few times in Spain or in other countries.

This

Which one is Chuck?

Americans think that scandi social welfare states create a mentality where people expect their taxes will pay for everything, so charity donations are lower. Of course, it's more complex than that and ignores the fact that the need for charity is more striking in places where the state can't effectively deal with the poor and alienated.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticisms_of_welfare

I already pay too much in the form of taxes, I'm not going to give the poor anything on top of that

Once a month through taxes.

>the stupid fuckers decided to spend all my money on sending me begging letters.
Yes, it's extremely annoying. I've worked as a fund raiser for charities, nearly everyone who stopped donating, stopped it because the harassment drove them mad.

I've always cared for the poor, and used to give often, to charities or beggars (esp. those who walked up to me). I cared so much that I became a poor myself...

I guess some peope are still more poor than me, but
- in my area you pass by the same dozen beggars everyday, you don't even notice anymore
- most of them are invaders, why would I help them compete for the same jobs as me? They already have more connections than me, and more help by humanitarian organizations, who have more respect for invaders than for locals.

Still, poverty (not just my own) troubles me deeply.
>You shouldn't judge a society by its ability to give more to those who have a lot, but by its ability to give a little to those who have nothing.

My mother is very catholic, even though she denies it. She's a battered wife, the husband is an atheist.

Taxes don't go to the poor, idiot.

The Dane seems to prove that point quite well.

In my experience, both the State and Charities treat the poor like shit.
Rich people, mostly retired, mostly women, who have worked evil jobs all their life, like pharm lab HR, want to buy their way into heaven at the last minute. They want "meaning" and closure.
Esp., they want to meet other rich people, charities for them is a nice place to meet rich people, and feel good about yourself.
Testimonies (not just mine) show that homeless people prefer by far to be managed by an ex-homeless, than by old retired men and women, who preach them and don't respect them, because they have no idea what struggling really is.
Some leaks from an organization showed that the new volunteers were taught : "preach them *before* feeding them. Once they're full, they won't listen"
George Orwell also confirmed this.

Charity is a disease, akin to hate.

If you want to help people, give them a loan, help them find decent work. Don't give them free stuff. You can't respect a person you give free stuff to.

There are countless stories about UN people who, off the record, call their missions abroad "Tropic missions". Basically, they're paid (as if it was a job) to go on vacation in luxury SUVs in sunny places.

I've known some bourgeois people, and they all have their story about their missionary work (usually as students) in Africa. "It was SO enriching! SO engrossing!" "They taught me more than I taught them!" "I met the absolute Other, the big O"

i am the poor, nigga. net after tax 400 eur is the average salary here, per month. help a brother out.

Poverty is always relative.
If you earn the average wage, you can find a gf easily.
With 400€ I couldn't even pay my single room's rent.
Do you earn 400€/month?

i make about a 1,000 but i have my own place, gift of my family, and a gf who makes as much. gross would be about 1,700 per mo, serbian state takes as much as 70%, about 65% in relevant contributions.

>serbian state takes as much as 70%, about 65% in relevant contributions
wew, that's a lot.

When i lived in Singapore I used to give a lot. Now I'm back in the UK i never give. Due the government taking so much money to fund an extensive welfare state, i don't feel sorry for people who are poor here.

In abrahamic religions, giving to the poor is heavily encouraged and is one of the main values throughout it. Europe is probably the most secular area on Earth right now, and as a result, relies on its government to do everything. Several of their countries apart from the UK and eastern Europe have had their people become apathetic toward each other

pic-related is a chart from another thread about how easy it is to make friends in countries.

fucking never

I live in vancouver and spend a lot of time in the downtown eastside (google it) and I get asked at least 5-10 times a day for money or a cigarette from pos junkies and it really rustles my jimmies

Helping the poor isn't a solely abrahamic idea. This occurs from Buddhism to Hinduism as well.
I stated my specific reason for apathy, the welfare state. The government pays for your education, your health, housing. If you can't succeed in life despite that, then the problem lies with yourself.

Sometimes I throw fifty cents into the cup of some leftist punk beggar asshole in front of the central station and then say "Sieg Heil, brother" to him.
absolutely devilish

your pic related is how easy it is for expats to make friends. Denmark isn't used to foreigners and here foreigners are known to make crime and shit.
The Danish give to the poor through taxes (welfare) therefore we don't have any poor people here anymore. We pay 45 % of our pay so that everybody here have the equal opportunity. If you call that apathetic you should take a look on your own system where many people are left living shitty lives with a low standard of living. Your charities are mostly run by narcissists who use them to promote themselves and earn a few shekels on them
Yes it does idiot. Both poor people in Denmark but also in other countries since we pay the highest welfare to developing countries in the world.

Man, this is just a capitalist who made a map of notorious "socialist" countries.
Giving a coin to a beggar is not "making friends".
Thomas Piketty showed that there is much more inequalities and poverty in the US than in Europe.

I've seen an interesting report on a french entrepreneur, maybe the head of the Accor Hotels, a huge multinational corporation. He left France, doesn't pay taxes here. But in Asia he runs large charities, esp. hostellery schools, trying to give a chance to the disadvantaged.
The bad side of the coin is that his schools rely a lot on a personality cult. It's the opposite from what some religions value, the anonymous giver.

I know that we're on a right-wing-leaning website, that I just shat on my country, and I do believe there are nice things in the USA, like the government-backed loans to study (here, I'd like to study part-time, but can't get a loan, and can't close a budget without). I was shitting on charity, and you reply by shitting on socialism. Yes, socialism is also about giving free stuff to some people, but at least it's done in a spirit of duty, not in a spirit of personality-cult and "I feel so good about myself" and "buying one's way to heaven" like in charity.

>TL;DR - I find socialism less evil than charity. But the best thing would be to buy local, or if we really want to move all production in Asia and Africa, then invest a lot in training, that the proles and orphans DESERVE, because more simple jobs have been outsourced.
The big crime is to outsource simple jobs, then blame the poor and orphans for not really wanting to work. I've yet to find charities offering loans for those who want to learn a mid-skilled or high-skilled job.

>Yes it does idiot.
"welfare" ? Go ask these people if they fare well, with just enough to buy a bottle and a gun.

Most taxes go to maintaining roads, building airports, space exploration, galileo project, paying politicians, teachers, doctors, corruption, building infrastructures, paying social security, retirement, birth policies (free money for all mothers and for babysitters), paying defense, police, justice (all three devices *against*, not for the poor), research, corporate subsidies, banks, cinema, prisons, european parliament, erasmus students, the press and medias subsidies, comedians, administration, etc etc

Man, you really thought that most of the taxes went into the pochets of the poor? That's cute. I hope God will take your naiveté into account when he judges you.

>let me tell you about your country
people here on welfare are well off, they get free education and are actually paid for studying, they get free healthcare, they get free housing and free food. I didn't say that most taxes go to them but a good amount of the taxes goes to the poor. And actually most taxes go to healthcare not space exploration or galileo project idiot
>I hope God will take your naiveté into account when he judges you.
lol

are you the same person? it's weird to read your post and then read another one that says something with a pretty different attitude about it. Why does France give taxes to comedians?

>buy local
>the big crime is to outsource simple jobs
you don't really understand. it is imports that fundamentally make us as a society richer. resources are used in the most efficient manner that way. outsourcing jobs doesn't cause unemployment, it's part of the process of creative destruction.

>I find socialism less evil in charity
it's down to personal morals. but i fail to see how forcing someone to part with their private property with the threat of imprisonment, is less evil than someone choosing to do so out of their own free will. but don't get me wrong, i do believe in some sort of redistribution, just not to the extent of today. and to say it's less evil is intellectually lazy

yes, same person.
>Why does France give taxes to comedians?
Cultural exception, man.
The gov fought a lot at the WTO to keep these subsidies, on account there should be no free competition as far as culture is concerned. Of course, we've had to allow our partners to keep subsidies for sectors they wanted to protect too.

>paid for studying, they get free healthcare, they get free housing and free food
yeah, rich people say roughly the same about how well the poor fare in france, with free education, free housing, free healthcare, free transportation, free food, plus the pocket money called RSA for the smartphones, games, travels, gf and shit.
I can tell you it's a fucking joke : can't study, wait lists of 50 years for cheap housing, buck tooth, administrative harassment, threats, always living in fear, a few months ago the threats have increased, I lost sleep so much that after being thrown out a poverty control center for standing up for myself, I fell in the street, 1st time in my life, broke my wrist, 1st time in my life.

I had no free health, and it was the weekend, so I didn't go to the doctor or hospital, didn't have the money. So I slept with a broken wrist, hoping it was maybe not broken. Needless to say I didn't sleep at all.
Buck tooth, very short-sighted and no glasses.

You know that Denmark and France aren't quite different as far as social protection is concerned. So you might want to check your claims before imaging the wonderful life of your contries poors with all the free stuff.

And don't laugh at God, punk.

I never give to the poor basically because they just want the money to get high. Nobody starves to death in Spain, well, except that retarded pole.

>outsourcing jobs doesn't cause unemployment
ha!
I hope you don't imagine you'd be elected with a phrase like this on a TV presidential debate.
Of course outsourcing doesn't cause unemployment for the rich, who become lawyers, professors, doctors, engineers, copywriters...
It does create unemployment for people who don't have anyone to help them finance years of training. I know this because it's my situation. Despite the notorious welfare in France, I don't fare well.

And when I said "socialism", I was talking about social democracy like Germany, France or the Nordics.

I knocked on every doors. Charities, capitalists, socialists all rejected me, consistently. McJobs lead nowhere.
Only when Hitler was in power, was there a man who had personal experience of struggling alone, with no family, to get by in the work field. He saw all the good jobs taken by the jews, the connected people...
I'm not sure fascism is the answer, but capitalism, socialism and charities certainly aren't.

>tfw I didn't want to go to Sup Forums today, sorry for the long rants

This so much.

Look at unemployment figures. In the UK outsourcing has increased exponentially, especially since the late 70's and 80's. Yet unemployment is around 5%. If outsourcing truly increased unemployment, we'd see a steady rise, which we aren't. There's no economic basis for thinking this way. I'm sorry to say it's just a product of your own failings clouding your judgement.

there is nothing wrong with judaism, i don't understand this meme. all of the jewish people i've met irl are really nice. it's not very respectable blaming your problems on other people.

prolly 1-2 a month

Hardy Fox

I gave money to a bum who wanted a beer about a week ago. He looked so hung over that I just had to help him get over the pain.