Windows 10 now has a unique ID that remains persistent across reinstalls of Windows.
It will probably be used to implement impossible to circumvent "trial editions" and copy protection for your software. Every computer with UEFI is affected, starting with Windows 10 Anniversary Update. Trusted Platform Module not required, but can also be used. This is the (now removed) Pentium III unique serial number on steroids. Enjoy your botnet.
>The registry value is preserved across upgrades, but is lost if the user performs a clean install of Windows.
What am I missing?
Samuel Rodriguez
GNU/Linux doesn't have this problem
David Carter
Only when using BIOS. Not when using UEFI.
Jaxson Reed
You are fucked if you have either UEFI or TPM
Gabriel Parker
>To obtain a value that is consistent across reinstalls of Windows, the method uses the Trusted Platform Module (TPM), or if a TPM is not available, the Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI). >If neither is available, then starting in the Fall Creators Update, the method creates a unique ID and saves it in the registry. The registry value is preserved across upgrades, but is lost if the user performs a clean install of Windows.
Brandon Richardson
It's not a problem.
Carter Phillips
Good thing I use windows 8.1 with legacy boot >werks on my machine
Chase Kelly
For tech illiterate.
Josiah White
you guys do know that Intel is planning on completely eliminating legacy boot / CSM, right?
Uh can't you just clean efivars if it tracks with UEFI?
Camden Campbell
>it will make it impossible to pirate software
They've been singing this tune for decades about every release of something new. If they can crack the ps4 and iPhone, windows will be cake. I'm running a pirated version of Windows 10 right now.
Colton Powell
I use Ayy EM DEE my man. My AMD chink lenovo laptop is less a botnet then it was with factory installed 8.1 I reinstalled windows 8.1 after getting tired of 10 and set up AMD drivers and unselected PSP option.
Still a gook botnet machine but less a botnet
Jayden Davis
yeah that's what you're going to have to do
Caleb Young
Is that supposed to mean something? My system don't have enforced updates, registry madness and built in keylogger because the developer thinks about the OS as a service for justify user hostility and maximizing profit.
Robert Murphy
>/etc/machine-id Now that GNU/Linux is also confirmed botnet, is macOS the only viable option?
Robert Perry
>profit is bad, le evil capitalism XD Freetard gommies get out.
Parker Brown
Hold on just moment here. With UEFI (and most other EFIs on x86 platforms) doesn't the EFI expose some of its firmware to the OS in a folder? Isn't that what the EFI variables are on pretty much any OS? Where they can be used to interact with the EFI in certain ways from the kernel/OS level, and enter certain settings? IIRC on most machines you can wipe these variables out they just get restored automatically by the EFI on the next boot, but on some MSI motherboards they fucked up the UEFI implementation and wiping them bricks the motherboard. But for anyone who uses a business class machine with a non-shit EFI, can't we just wipe the variables and that'll do the trick? Seems pretty straightforward to me. Or is Winshit digging deeper into the firmware that just the OS exposed variables. If so, how is it doing this? Does the TPM do some low level magic I'm unaware of when it comes to the boot firmware? I though that the TPM was a cryptography co-processor that's used for BitLocker when you want to have the keys stored on board. I know that you can use BitLocker without a TPM by putting the keys on flash drives.
So is the solution to disable the TPM in the EFI setup and just clear out the EFI variables when you reinstall Winshit? I suppose not using Winshit on the bare metal is also a potential solution.
Jackson Perez
Slippery slope, the post. Ad hominem also makes your post a bit even more retarded.
Lincoln Clark
>but is lost if the user performs a clean install of Windows learn to read
Parker Nelson
Isn't his entire point free as in freedom and not as in beer?
Elijah Allen
Read the thread, if UEFI or TPM you're stuck with it. It is completely unknown if the unique ID can be reset by overwriting some UEFI vars.
Austin Morgan
Can I has a GPT partition table without UEFI?
Jason Adams
>but is lost if the user performs a clean install of Windows. at which point it (just) creates a new one
Charles Johnson
no, I'm pretty sure efivars are the only thing that there are for something like this the TPM solution can be implemented in a way that can't be wiped, though most people don't have "real" TPMs only intel platform trust technology (which is software-emulated TPM via the ME) which you can turn off
Jaxon Martinez
>Can I has a GPT partition table without UEFI? With Windows you must boot in UEFI mode if you want to boot from a disk partitioned as GPT. (This does not apply to non-boot disks.)
James White
Windows? Probably not.
Nolan Cooper
Not even a anti capitalist point. Windows is the only OS that actually puts the user in danger.
Christian Cooper
>If neither is available, then starting in the Fall Creators Update, the method creates a unique ID and saves it in the registry. The registry value is preserved across upgrades, but is lost if the user performs a clean install of Windows. >If neither is available
If UEFI or TPM is available, it is persistent.
Isaac Anderson
Consumer PCs are minus a TPM mostly, but a lot of touchscreen and business devices have one built in.
You can still use a USB stick as a TPM anyway
Matthew Ross
At least Dell XPS has it. Also maybe some Thinkpads and MS's hardware.
Wyatt Bell
Windows: Proving Stallman right since 1985.
Jaxson Edwards
Software is just a tool. Freedom isn't a function of what you can do to the tools you have, but rather of what you can do WITH the tools you have. Hence, Linux is less free than Windows, because Windows can accomplish more than Linux can.
Oliver Ramirez
>2018 >he still hasn't upgraded to a linux-based distro
Justin Gray
>Hence, Linux is less free than Windows How much mental gymnastics did you do to reach that conclusion?
Tyler Ortiz
Normies (aka 95% of userbase): not caring since 1985
Nathan Wright
well since windows accesses it can't linux do the same and remove it?
Levi Myers
Not as much mental gymnastics as Stallman does in order to qualify voluntary transactions as "immoral", "slavery", "unethical", etc.
Jonathan Phillips
While I agree with you, that has nothing to do with .
Easton Lopez
But it has something to do with
Logan King
you realize that although nothing is unhackable, there's more sever vulnerabilities out there for solaris, macos, and windows than there could ever be for *nix systems?
Carter Fisher
It does on GNU/pooterring/linux, see man machine-id
Nolan Lee
>windows 10 >intel >nvidia >chrome
RMS was right. Imagine what kind of hell we'd be in now without free software?
Brandon Torres
>It will probably be used to implement impossible to circumvent "trial editions" and copy protection for your software. I did not want to use their shit even when they gave it away for free, why would I want to avoid this shit. I do not use WIndows spyware, nor do I care what happens to its idiots users
Hudson Taylor
that picture may seem retarded but it is true
Kevin Jackson
>intellectual rights is good Kys
Jose Cooper
That's the best loadout to watch UHD BBC cuck porn. You can almost see the individual sperm cells while your software reports back how long you spent looking at them.
Joseph Thomas
>Every computer with UEFI is affected Heh, I don't have this problem on any of the computers I own.
James Taylor
I dont use Windows anyway.
Jayden Cox
You can start reading standford encyclopedia about freedom to understand him.
William Smith
Help help! My installation of Windows 10 is killing me. CORTANA, CALL THE POLICE
Dominic Hughes
Then I'll build an AMD desktop.
Asher Parker
you don't need a UEFI system to boot windows from GPT
Angel Reed
>then: windows 10, now: botnet >implying it wasn't always considered a botnet