/itcg/ - IT Career General

#5: Retirement Was in Bitcoins Edition

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At any given time there are usually 3+ threads on Sup Forums about IT careers, steady jobs and freelancer work. They are usually varied and encompass many aspects such as ranting, dickwaving, crying about shit bosses/employees, career advice, "the chinks took our jobs!" and other work-related shitposting. This a general to encompass all that and thus clean up the board a little.

>why not make this thread on /adv/?
Have you met those people? There's not one poster above 100 IQ there.

>how do you define "IT career"?
Any career where technology is at the core.

>so monkeys only then?
Nope, administrators, coordinators, project leaders, techies and anyone else that considers their main field technology are welcome here.

>what if I'm in college?
If you want to have a career in IT, this is the place to ask your questions.

If you want some nice meaty answers, or really good advice, include as many of the following answers in your post as possible:
>what sector do you currently work in and at what level?
>how long and what experience do you have in IT?
>what education do you have if any, and at what level?
>do you have any certification?
>where do you want to be in 10 years?
>what motivates you, or what do you want out of a potential workplace?

If you want to contribute, or you got a good answer and you know your way around photoshop, we'd love to have you shop the general logo onto some cute office-employed anime sluts like pic related for our first-posts.

First for burn all web devs.

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Welp, that was almost.

How long is your resignation time? In my country it's 3 months but is it true that in America you can esentially leave the same day you resign?

I feel like I need a fresh start. My previous employers might be saying bad things about me behind my back that I think is not warranted. What are the chances I won't get caught if I completely falsify everything on my resume?

Kinda' high, but it depends on how full retard you go. What exactly do you plan to... exaggerate?

How much do you need to fill in with lies for your CV to look somewhat usable?

I'm currently in my second semester in order to get an associates degree in CS, associates because the college I'm going to really doesn't have a real pathway for CS so I would have to transfer out.

I'm being taught java as my first language, but I'm debating if I should learn another language along with it. Should I first finish learning java or would it be a good idea to take another language with it? I'm open for anything.

Java is a good language, but I recommend starting to look into some .NET.

Do you see yourself doing front-end or back-end stuff when you graduate?

>3 months
I don't believe you

If I'm correct on thinking front-end is mainly about how the user sees the application while back-end is maintaining the application, then back-end.

Anyone here works in the EDA industry? Which languages do they mainly deal with?

Do you mean legally or formally?
Formally, its minimum 2 weeks, but longer depending on the job
Legally, you can walk right out the door and never come back

>formally

What do you mean?

what career path will give me the opportunity to marry such this semen demon ?

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As I understand it, if you quit in America you've got to give two weeks notice. Some states, on the other hand, are employment at-will meaning they can fire you at any time and not have to pay you jack shit.

Like, politely
To give them time to find someone to replace you

I could've sworn there was a learn2code general way back when. Does anyone have any resources they swear by? I'm mainly looking to refresh my knowledge of C++ & Java.

I think he means ethically or whatever the term is for "what's accepted in the local culture".

Well code academy will do a pretty solid job teaching you the basics. At least the syntax and the structure in a interactive environment. Does that sound like something you'd want?

Whats the comp of the offer you're taking? I'm about to make an offer decision and am interested in what "very high" looks like for you.

If I have a master's in computational chemistry and get a couple certs, like an A+ and Net+, what would my chances be to get a devops job? How many years exp does a devops position require?

My first IT job hired me because everyone else was quitting in protest at having to sign a new contract with a three-month notice period. They definitely exist (England here). Nobody expects you to actually work that long after quitting; it's just to stop people from leaving.

How to explain my NEET period at interview?

It could work. I might just download a book if I could remember what we learned on back in uni.

I was a caretaker for my sickly father/mother/uncle/aunt/gramps/granny

Good idea. thanks senpai

Get a shit job that hires anybody off the street first. I worked off and on in telesales for several years, so if anyone asks what I was doing at any particular time, I just pick one of those jobs and talk about it.

Also, only put years on your CV. I worked for a company from January to May 2016, so my CV just says, "2016." It's not my fault if employers assume I was there for all of 2016.

Not slutposting ITT, user. /itcg/ is a 3DP-only thread.

I think that user's point is that code academy is actually interactive. Which gives you feedback and demands you type code into a virtual editor and gives feedback.

Honestly, if you just want to learn the raw basics of a language CA is probably the way to go over any book. And it's free (mostly) which helps.

I think it offers some paid courses too, but I haven't been there in a while.

Standard time in France.

Can i get a job if i finished with brio all four CCNA modules on netacad but i didn't got yet that certification examination ?

That certification thing costs around 300 euros here in europe...

I think you need the cert to be honest, but I live in a shithole country so ymmv.

I've actually studied everything but I haven't touched coding in 10 years, so I figured codecademy might be too bloated for the refresher I need (if that makes sense), but I'll look into it anyway, can't hurt to have some feedback, even if it's automated.

My sluts are pure. PURE!

Rapebait animu sluts aren't pure user.

Not true. You can be fired at any point on the spot, but the business is always required to pay your due wages within 72 hours. Similarly, you can quit whenever you want, without notice. In that case the employer is required to pay your due wages at the next pay period.
That being said you shouldn't just leave without notice, since future employers will sometimes call your previous ones and it's just a dick move.

I want to cum in her bellybutton then have her sister drink it out with her tongue like a cat.

I'm doing the cyber security course at Edx. Should I pay to get the certification as well?

Yeah, get it. Do you have any university-education to follow it up?

They are my pure sluts, just the way I like 'em. 3D can never attract me like they do. NEVER!

Calm down there weeb. Children's drawings aren't ment to arouse your sick twisted mind.

Just started my first semester in a network engineering degree. Intro to IT is the most boring class ever

Every intro class is boring shit if you already know the material.

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2d is obviously superior but i just can't get over lolicons

>you share a board with roasty appologists

Yeah probably. I did!

Eastern Euro here.
On legit jobs it's 2 months (from the last day of the month in which the resignation was submitted).
On contractor deals, you can quit at any point, but you won't get paid in full (or at all).
Also you can always get yourself fired on a technicality, but it will play against you if you ever need welfare.

"I was in a band." / "I went on a spiritual journey." / "I was fucking a cougar."

On more serious note - you can always say you did some freelance / job abroad / work from home, but you didn't list it in the CV because you can't prove it (employer went bankrupt and into hiding, didn't give you the papers).
Optionally, you can turn that into a sob story how they didn't even pay you for the last month and you learned from that and now will be happy for a legit job.

Pick a classmate or three than have no idea and offer tutoring. It kept me fed through the college. Even got me laid once.

Just learn one language really well, java is a good choice, and then worry about others later. One of the biggest mistakes people make is learning too many out of the gate. Focus on actually making something, on actually being good at one, and it will translate to others.

Thanks, I think I'll buy it.
I'm studying maths in uni and doing MSCA. That's mostly it.
Endgoal is probably a programming job, but I'm curious about security research as well.

Good man, it's the right call.

Figured I'd ask this here.

I got my A+ certification almost 2 years ago and have been applying to lots of jobs that are listed as "entry level", unfortunately I haven't received any call backs though.

I'm looking to start in help desk / desktop support.

A lot of these positions require 3-5 years of experience in help desk/desktop support as well as whatever field they are positioned in (law help desk requires experience in law field for X amount of years & the 3-5 years of experience in help desk)

I do have money to go back to college, id want CS.

I am currently employed at a retail store , and while I don't primarily do tech support, I do have to help a lot of people out over the phone and in person with whatever tech they bring in (ipads/tablets/laptops)

I listed the following on my resume.

*Retail Store* - XX/XX/XX - Current (Sr. Sales Associate)
>Provides Exceptional Customer Service over phone, email, and in person.
>Troubleshoot, maintain, and repair all business computers and printers.  >Management and documentation of store shipments, deliveries, store supplies and other inventories.
>Data entry and shipment processing through UPS CMS/POS Systems.
>Strong multitasking skills while being extremely detail oriented and organized in all situations.
>Consultation and free form creation design of business cards and other printed material for community events, charities, and small businesses through use of Adobe Photoshop.
>Responsible for opening and closing store on daily basis, often working unsupervised.

Freelance Computer Repair 2010 - Current
>Building, maintaining, upgrading and repairing computers(desktops/laptops), printers and networks
>Consultation and custom building computers for specific needs
>Data transferring and data recovery
>Virus, adware, spyware removal

[spoiler] I realize the freelance section is kind of bare minimum but you wouldn't believe how many people cannot do these things we regard as "baby shit"[/spoiler]

It SHOULDN'T be that hard to obtain a help-desk position especially since they're bottom of the barrel for IT. You already have an A+ cert, HAS education, and customer service experience. CS is a good choice if you can do it. Try going through recruiters and get that contract $15/hr job.

I'd personally never work in a law office though, fuck lawyers and suits.

Personally, I think you look pretty good.

You're showing off your human relation jobs and customer service ability as well as linking it to IT.

I think you've got a good shot here man.

RHCSA/RHCE
Good idea if I want to get a deeper understanding of gahnoo plus linux? I have a hobbyist level of knowledge right now (Been using it at home almost exclusively for ~5 years and set up a couple VPSs and home servers for personal projects). My employer pays for all my cert stuff so cost really doesn't matter

I live in NYC.

That's probably why I can't land a job.

I've tried cold calling recruiters but they never have jobs open for me.

It's been 2 years now.

NYC is ridiculously expensive for CoL and very competitive. Good public transportation, but it's crowded AF so yeah.

Looks good to me phamalam.

more like 2D office slut general

Don't tell me you can get 15$/hr for a help desk job meanwhile I only get 5$/hr as a junior plsql developer. Being europoor is suffering.

Mathematics student.
Know some programming but not much, a bit of python, less C++, and ( by advicefrom a friend who already graduated for Math) Haskell.
Assuming I don't want to be a codemonkey who wants to die everyday and actually want to make a decent wage I could one day retire on: What steps/languages should I work on completing that will be likely to give me the best quality of life.
Currently I live comfortably on 15k a year after quitting my last job and saving, I can do this for almost one more year but I'd still have one more year of school left, in case this effects your answer.

She's not a slut. She's a middle management employee who oversees the region.

still looks and dresses like a slut

$15/hr should be pretty entry for helpdesk, it's possible to get even more.

America=/=Europoor. We have our own share of problems so it's not all fun and games.

>postin in new thread in hopes of receiving guidance
>skill level is vaguely competent noob(swapped parts on laptops, built 2-3 pcs, have helped a few people with problems they could probably google themselves
>have tried poking at coding, failed repeatedly
>have done a few tutorials on sql and html

I have a lump sum of cash, am I better off trying to bribe someone to hire my inexperienced uncharismatic ass or blowing it all on education and then hoping someone will hire my inexperienced and uncharismatic yet educated ass?

Honestly, education. But it depends a bit on what you want to do.

What field do you see yourself in?

Why would you give tips to people who want to get in our field? That drives wages down and it's exactly what pig-proprietary employers want, more qualified people for cheaper. True Sup Forums would tell everyone there's no future in IT, which is actually true if the "everyone can program" shilling continues

In my opinion, one of the biggest misconceptions people have is "what language should I learn" as if it's terribly important. The fundamentals of programming are the same across all popular languages and if you're very very proficient at one then it's pretty easy to learn another. I would focus more on data structures, algorithms, etc. In most programming interviews they don't give a fuck what language you want to solve the question in. They're usually a test of your understanding of data structures and algorithms and your ability to think on the fly of an optimal solution.

Wait, can you feasibly self-study algorithms and data structures?

Buy a book on it and read it, user. You don't need a guy to draw it on the board for you to learn it. There's a million online videos on the topics too.

>helpdesk tears
I want to be her help desk.

That and unlike a lecture you can download and pause vidyas.

Sounds reasonable enough. I'm going through Python stuff like "Composing Programs" and "Python Crash Course: A Hands-On, Project-Based Introduction to Programming" ATM. Dev seems way more comfy and well compensating than what I've been doing in helpdesk and NOC.

Well I seem to have a lot of trouble with coding so basically anything but that.

I was thinking something like Networking/systems administration but I have no solid direction. My big concern is I have no charisma. I have had had numerous shitty job interviews and flopped hard(cant talk my into mcdonalds), I am worried if I get a degree I still wont be able to get past an interview with no relevant job experience.

Thanks for the advice. My friend who recommended Haskell said they found it the most beneficial in conjuction with their mathematics work after school so I might keep working on that and beef up my Python knowledge and skills while I'm at it.
I grasp the understanding of algorithms for the most part, I'm just completely shit at explaining them, at least going off of other friends interview questions I try to answer for the fun of it so I suppose I'll work on my ability to explain them as well.

What’s the fastest way to pick up JS & Node?

I’m a PM and I’m used to mobile dev, but now I’m on a web product and I don’t know like half of our stack.

post more anime office ladies

First for web devs will inherit the earth

Everything fucking transpiles to JS now, so in a sense everyone's a web dev.

By the time they've learnt all this, I will have more experience than them and my job will not be in any danger. And if there's a flood of entry-level plebs, it will be harder for any one individual pleb to actually find work, which will discourage them, because the total number of available jobs will not change. Unless it does, by increasing, and in that case, you have nothing to worry about.

There's a data centre near me (I work there) which seems to always struggle to hire people. Get yourself a basic A+, and if you have no charisma, get a CCNA too, and someone there will want to hire you. (It's in Manchester, England, so probably not near you; you'll need to find your own).

What's the actual work you do and how well does it or pay though?

any advice 28 male, graduating CS just next year and have no prior IT expierence, all my jobs were i warehouses and similar,i know it looks bad on CV. What should i learn to be able to get helpdesk position for expierence in the field??

>Cs
>Helpdesk
user unless you really want to do IT support, trying to get back into CS fields will be very hard

There are lots of small companies in there. I do support for the data centre and also support for the web hosting company that was bought out by the data centre. Some things I do:
>Running cables
>Deploying virtual servers
>Installing SSL certificates
>Updating DNS records
>Making sure the data centre is clean (my job description includes literal janitorial duties)
>Reboot servers that go down
>Remote hands requests (so if a customer rings up and asks for someone to go and look at their server, I would do that, and plug in cables if they ask me to, and so on)
>Answering phones

All in all, it's every Pajeet job in one, apart from programming, so that sounds like it would be perfect for you. Other companies in the building have similar jobs, but with fewer responsibilities. Salary is £20,000-£30,000pa across the different companies. I personally get £25,500.

so what do u suggest for first IT related job?

There are a ton of datacenters in certain US regions that do basically the same thing. NYC/NJ, DC/VA, Chicago, Dallas, and LA are the big ones.

Probably the most important thing for getting a software job with no experience is working on a personal project that can be shown off. Learning is important, but displaying that you've actually learned it is even more important and personal projects are the best way to do that.

That's a great answer, even though I wasn't OP. I'm trying to learn coding, personally. Currently I do jack shit in NOC and get paid the equiv of 31863 bongs per annum. Is everything green? Okay, continue browsing Sup Forums. It's mind numbing so I'm using my time to learn new skills as well.

Does anyone get strange urges to do work during their free time?

At the moment I'm seriously considering booting my work laptop and picking up on a mini-project I've got going involving making some changes to our infrastructure monitoring software.

Why are IT jobs paid so poorly in the UK?

What did you enjoy out of your cs degree?

No. What is wrong with you?

Because anyone who posts in an IT Careers general, on Sup Forums of all places, is either 19 years old or has fucked up their past and is just now getting a 19-year-old's job. Either way, we're all entry-level here.

If you're American, you do get paid more in your country because of muh capitalism and you have to have $10 million saved up in case you get a cold and need to visit Pepsi Presents The Hospital(tm) Brought To You By Pepsi.

I enjoy my work, I guess?

Is C++ still a decent language?
I hear it's become a bloated mess.

>is either 19 years old or has fucked up their past and is just now getting a 19-year-old's job.
H-How the fuck...

I guess, we use SolarWinds for monitoring. What about you? Configuring alerts is sucking my soul.

15 days in Spain

We use SolarWinds and LogicMonitor. Configuring alerts is never fun.

Information systems or computer science?
I have no experience in programming/coding.