News: Ryzen APUs will release on Feb. 12. The 2200G (99USD) and 2400G (169USD) are similar to the R3 1300X and R5 1500X respectively in cores/threads+clockspeed, but they have integrated graphics. The 2200G has 8 Vega CUs and the 2400G has 11 CUs, so they're in the same performance tier as the RX 550 (8CUs) or GT 1030.
If you want help: >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs: >NO i5 7500/7600K or i7 7700/K. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY COFFEE LAKE >R5 1600 / i5 8400 - Great gaming (especially the i5 8400) or multithreaded use CPUs (especially the R5 1600) >R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper / i7 - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use
RAM: >Current CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal >Before buying RAM for Ryzen, check your Mobo's QVL or look for user reports
Graphics cards: >Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon) 1080p >MSRP of standard 1080p cards: 1050Ti, 140USD; 1060 3GB, $200; 1060 6GB, $230; RX 570 4GB, $170; RX 580 4GB, $200 >GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >GTX 1070/Ti and 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced >GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4K) >GTX 1080Ti
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 240GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor
>build my first pc a few months back >receive letter from newegg that I need to pay sales/use tax I can just ignore this right? Unless they send your info to the state, I don't see how they would enforce it.
Colton Price
I am in the process of shopping to build a PC. I have a list that is pretty cheap for a decent computer but I just want to get your input on it. I am using it for LoL, WoW and some Python on the side.
evo 850 or 860? Either 250 or 500gb, I'm just gonna use it in a laptop as the main drive.
Samuel Diaz
Should be fine
Nathan Nelson
Just a friendly reminder that getting a refurbished office PC with a 3rd or 4th gen i5(i7 if you get a lucky find) and 8-16gbs of ram is the absolute best deal poorfags can get right now.
All you gotta do is throw in a low profile 1050ti.
Luke King
Why aren't there any good ITX AM4 motherboards? Actually, why do all motherboards have retarded VRM "heatsinks" that look like they actually counteract the purpose of a heatsink. Seriously, wtf is going on in those chinks' brains? Are the installed ones hard to pull off without damage? I figure I might as well just replace them with actual heatsinks and just use any cheap board
Eli Barnes
Good but for $200 more you could go for a 2200g when they're released and upgrade from there (another ddr4 kit, a 1050 ti or a 1060). The 1200 here is a placeholder for the 2200g, try going for a s340 instead of that case. pcpartpicker.com/list/R9XT4C
Nicholas Jenkins
Almost exactly what I'm posting from right now (cpu, ram, cooler, hdd, 280x gpu) Works like a charm.
Kevin Sullivan
Who knows? If I recall, Gigabyte's X470 board demo had real heatsinks.
Julian Davis
It does and it looks like other companies are moving towards them also I know EVGA x299 dark has fans on their vrm heatsink
Lincoln Torres
>cheapest 6gb 1060 is $350
Elijah Nelson
Used 770-780Ti or 970-980 are your best options
Mason Cook
What? They're wanting you to pay tax to them? If so then just ignore it the burden of collecting tax for a sale is on the merchant if they didn't collect it at the time of sale that's their failure not yours
Alexander Russell
>used
Evan Thompson
>buying a gpu some crypto fag has burnt up good goy
Landon Torres
Kepler and Maxwell aren't as efficient as Pascal, so mining with them is a rare sight.
Jacob Powell
Under realistic loads what CPU and GPU temperatures are fine until one should start getting worried?
William Morgan
70 is alright but not "good", 80 or over and you need to fix something. 90+ and there are performance hits.
Evan Nguyen
On the stock cooler my R5 1600 hits 62 at most with my usage so that seems okay. A Noctua NH-U12S is coming in next week as I want to take the overclock a bit further, but not enthusiast levels. I think I'll be okay in this department.
My GPU gets to 70 max, but it's the single fan variant of the 1060 by EVGA, the SC (which is ACX so it blows back into the case). I guess that's just by nature? The only fans I have are 2 front intake, 1 rear exhaust with the intakes positioned as close to center over the GPU and CPU. Theoretically adding more of which will help with keeping the temp down? I have space for a third at the front and 2 along the top.
Nicholas Green
I have a U12S on my 1600 which is at 3.95GHz/1.45V and it runs just fine You don't need any extra case fans, because more airflow past 2 fans has minimal returns.
Angel Hernandez
i can dig it if LoL is all you really need it for. would get a bit more ram doe just cause i like to disable the page file when im using an SSD.
Arctic Freezer 33 CO is the way to go!
also running an R5 1600
Brandon Davis
No, they are telling me to pay tax to the RI division of taxation.
Josiah Perez
>mfw all my PC builds are frankensteins because I'm a weird mofo with specific tastes and do not fall for memes that easily.
>I.E. My keyboard is an old PS/2 IBM, last gen CRT on top of some discarded broken cvd and cd drive units. Last night I modded my own GPU card for better cooling with some lollipop plastic sticks, crazy glue and a bigger fan.
True horror stories bro.
Evan Hill
Pretty bad if you ask me. You get more performance and upgrade potential from a modern platform, like AM4 or 1151v1 or v2. The downside is the expensive RAM, but you'll have to contend with the cost of having to ditch the whole platform including RAM next time you want to upgrade.
For 99USD you can have WAY better performance with the new 2200G on AM4, and on the onboard graphics component will be decent (not really that much worse than than the R9 270X). You could use that for a while instead of buying a card in this market.
There are other options as well, all better than buying AM3+. As an FX 6350 owner, I can tell you that there are certainly better hardware solutions (on a value and price/perf basis) to achieve your goals that with that old hardware.
If you have the mobo already from a previous build, just sell it and start fresh.
Doesn't matter. Check lifespan and get the longer one, as long as the price is close
Mason Hughes
>Get told not to install Windows 7 >Try to do it anyway >Have to use old ps/2 keyboard >Port feel really tight >Plug it in and push pretty hard >Computer doesn't even shut down it just turns off >Have to switch PSU off and on a couple of times and then it boots up again
Did I break something?
Jose Sullivan
>Being this rude to PS/2 Probably only my heart, user, probably. Were you able to install win7?
Zachary Mitchell
>only my heart
Somehow this pains me more ( ._.) Nah, but it's probably because I'm a brainlet. It got as far as install now, but then it tells me that no device drivers were found as soon as I tried to install it. I know it's possible, but I can't seem to get past that problem.
Carter Gutierrez
Is the AM4 the best chioce for futureproofing currently?
Nolan Anderson
I need to buy a new drive to keep back ups of old shit and a bunch of movies that i play on other devices via lan.
is it safe to order and HDD online?. i have always been told to handle HDDs with care and avoid bumping them. i am paranoid to order them online because i know just how careless a courier can get when it comes to handling them.
am i misinformed? (btw prices are in dude weed cuck bux)
Depends.. AMD's 8 cores might never beat the i7 8700K at gaming. If you're video rendering, yes AM4.
Hunter Butler
Hey guys whats the monitoe with th deepest blacks you know of? Somewhere I read VA monitors are the ones with best blacks.
John Sanders
Well just don’t buy seagate and you are fine.
Chase Campbell
pretty sure its OLED
Kayden Barnes
How did I do goys?
This is what I bought: ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/39mnm8 Ordered everything about 2 weeks ago so the pricing on my link is out of date.
Would also like to mention: >bought this to edit videos and play a few current games at 1080p on whatever settings run smooth >will upgrade the GPU and move the 1050ti to a SFF Dell if and when there is a price break on higher end GPUs >have a bunch of HDDs and a spare SSD which is why I bought such a massive case >havent overclocked CPU or GPU and RAM is at 2966 >this case was the cheapest thing with a shitload of HDD bays, never thought i would ever buy a Rosewill but i took a risk and im not dissapoint
Dominic Sullivan
The crypto currencies are getting hit pretty hard lately so most likely not for very much longer Ram is still fucking stupid though
Jace Scott
Usually that means you didn't embed the USB drivers correctly your USB image
w2b: inside information on when i can buy an amd gpu for under 2x msrp
h: gf
Caleb Collins
265 canuck bux
Joseph Robinson
give me o e good reason why i should keep putting up with dells rediculous price hikes on this monitor when i can get a 4k one for 100 dollars cheaper
Jaxson James
higher refresh rate and gsync plus you likely can't run anything at 4k
Nathan Green
>not getting an ultra wide for that price fag
Cooper White
yes but its approaching 500 dollars and i have no idea why they are hiking the price of a monitor this old at this point i might as well buy one of the 700 dollar asus ones cause by thr time my refund comes in this wil cost the same
here is specs i should be able to run some games at 4k or maybe slighty lower rssolutions
where do i find an ultrawide for this price that isnt korean bullshit
Connor Sanchez
You might be able to just like I could but its nicer playing at 165 frames and 2k resolution especially since you don't have to upscale any newer games which looks like shit
Xavier Jenkins
I just ordered a 8700k with an Asrock z300 board, forget the exact model name. I've been looking into 1440p monitors and the LG32GK is what I'm leaning towards. How well will this monitor pair with a EVGA 1070 SC? I'll mainly be playing PUBG and other shooters.
Thomas Howard
why the bloody hell are you spending almost 900 dollars on a 1440p monitor?
Bentley Ortiz
Is 1050ti the lowest i should for a GPU and what CPU will be the best match for it??
Lincoln Watson
you could find similar monitors for much cheaper also the 1070 isn't going to do much good on a 1440p monitor at 144hz especially not in PUBG with its dogshit optimization
Lincoln Rodriguez
No, you can go for a 1050/560 at bare minimum but it depends on what you are coming from.
Find your current card and at least go up 3 tiers to see upgrades that would make sense
>what CPU 1200/2200G
Isaiah Wilson
i currently have a i5 6600k, overclocked at 4.7ghz stable issue: im using the igpu, runs a 1200p and a 1080p display perfectly fine. when im playing csgo if someone throws smoke im instantly cucked. whats the cheapest card i can get to not do that? im thinking 1030 because shits unaffected by miners. i can also go used so a 750ti also works, which is better?
Easton Wilson
Why should I build in this current climate? All monetary benefit of doing so has evaporated, and buying a prebuilt at least gets you a warranty of sorts.
Hunter Rogers
Go for the used 750ti if it's a decent price, it's around 20% better than the 1030.
I play csgo on a 6770 which is fairly similar to your iGPU, I'm hoping the 1050's drop a bit down or I might just get a used 750 TI too.
Kevin Evans
>which looks like shit Would upscaling 1080p -> 2160p even be noticeably worse than straight 1080p? And why?
Josiah Hughes
Because: - Prebuilt have shit mobos - Prebuilts have shit hdds - Prebuilts have shit cases - Prebuilts have shit PSUs - Prebuilts have shit airflow
However right now you can get the low end side of gaming with the 2400G chips until the GPU craze stablelizes.
Aaron Torres
I have tried to play at 1080p on my 1440p monitor and it looks really bad I don't have the same issue with my 1080p monitor that I play ps3 on
it may just be me but it looks bad and I don't really know why that is
Nathaniel Diaz
This. Go for a 1050 if possible, it's worth it
Parker Gutierrez
Oh look, poozen btfo by i3 once again.
Isaiah Sanchez
just werks for me m8
Cameron Wilson
it cant even emulate ps2 games its designed not to on purpose
John Ortiz
but im not emulating ps2 games...
Matthew Murphy
you shouldnt buy from manufacturers who purposfully gimp their products
Camden Lewis
Stop talking out of your ass user, Ryzen chips do emulation just fine I could say the same to you about your brand of choice
Charles Murphy
prove it jackass i will never buy from a brand that limits me limits are bad
Cameron James
Nevermind him, he's a little slow
Dylan Turner
>i3 matches i7 average frame rate
really fires my neurons
Julian Smith
Listen pajeet, I know you have intel chips to sell but you shouldn't be this direct with your approach
Liam Cox
damn did someone disable all the other cores to get that high of an overclock?
Brayden Davis
Suggestions for 256 GB SSD on a MSI z97 gaming 3? Will be installing OS to it and maybe whichever game I'm currently playing. Budget is $200 max.
Jaxson Gutierrez
Can I use this with my CL14 3200MHz G.Skill TridentZ at full speed?
Okay I see that the final number in the timings is 3 lower than the G.Skill. I can just make it slower to match and be fine since CL14 is pretty much guaranteed to all be Samsung, right?
Josiah Sullivan
This. If you don't mind it being a little slower than a 960 go for a mx300
Jason Bennett
Ryzen can run up to 4.2 GHz in pure stock form on 1 core using XFR, so it’s not too far-fetched.
Evan Ortiz
Won't my mobo bottleneck a 960 though? My mobo only supports PCIe gen2 x2
Joseph White
Im putting together a mini itx workstation with a Ryzen 1700. I’m not an autistic gaymer but I would like to have 4K playback for my movies and what not. Is there an alternative to the gt1030? I need something that is passive cooling with great Linux drivers but cheap.
Isaac Rodriguez
>ryzen would be better if it was capable of 4.5ghz overclock* >*according to fucking userbench >*ignoring the fact it would burn your house down >*ignoring the fact it won't be possible until at least zen3 really makes you think
Matthew Fisher
hey fucknugget i meant a video of ryzen as flawlessly as poosible emulating ps2 not some graph that means nothing limpdick
Wyatt Butler
Need help, what's a good board in place of this one? It looks nice but don't know if worth the price. Also do I really need 3600 ram? what is a good sweet spot for ram today?
4.5ghz should be possible on zen2 also you forget that they also improve the performance itself, not only the clocks
Logan Ross
>4.5ghz should be possible on zen2 leaked info show only 0.2ghz more in r5 2600
Dominic White
>what is a good sweet spot for ram today? 3200
Grayson Green
...
Jaxon Diaz
And the engineering samples only clocked at 3ghz so what's your point?
Isaac Rogers
>i-it's just an e-engineering sample like clockwork
Noah Powell
Thanks I had 2133 before. First wanted to go to 2666 but any certain brand or kit you can recommend - need at least 16gb.
Luis Carter
>build new PC >buy 512GB 960 Pro NVMe drive on Tuesday to replace rapidly aging 120GB Kingston drive for OS >it doesn't show up in bios or disk management >too busy/tired with work to sit around and figure it out, go about my business and just ignore it until the weekend >reboot PC well over a dozen times this week installing various updates and rectifying glitches, drive never shows up >reboot yesterday before going to work for the night, don't stick around to check it out >go to disk management a few minutes ago >drive finally showed up ready to rock and roll with no explanation
Ethan Price
It's a Ryzen cpu, but an Asus board.
How do I do that though? When it tells me there's no device drivers I get an X: drive show up and I can browse all the files and folders on the USB, but it doesn't bring up anything I can use. Do I have to download the USB drivers completely separately from the ISO? No wonder I was told not to try and install W7.
Justin Wilson
Someone in the last pcbg said the new Ryzen integrated graphics was gonna be 1030 quality.
>Computer doesn't even shut down it just turns off Power surge protection working as intended. >hot-plugging a ps/2
Logan Jackson
Might jump amd, but I'm worried about advanced compatibility. How are my Chinese linux/android opensources going to work if most of them are intel "only"? And I heard rams don't always work with AMD.
Zachary Garcia
Why not build it around a Ryzen 3 CPU instead? It'll only cost you like 20 or 30 more $
Henry James
Ram always works. The question is whether it will work at its rated speed. That's why you check to make sure your ram kit is on the QVL for the motherboard. And AMD tends to be pretty good on Linux. Why go Intel? The creator of Linux himself has said publicly that Intel CPUs are garbage.
Levi King
you guys know damn well someone is going to figure out how to use the new apus to do mining and their prices are going to skyrocket
Mason Garcia
I use Chinese soft that is broken on everything including intel. Will it even work on amd if they clearly state "intel only"?
