Finish this for me, Sup Forums

finish this for me, Sup Forums

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ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4270274/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21175082
files.soylent.com/pdf/soylent-nutrition-facts-2-0-en.pdf
enhs.umn.edu/current/5200/estrogen/phyto.html
menshealth.com/health/is-your-testosterone-level-normal
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10366402
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no... do something yourself for once

reddit meme

You can't even create original content yourself?

no do it for meno you do it retardfuck you

The Virgin Computer Scientist
>Uses a Pelican 1095 case to hold important data and porn

The Chad Computer engineer
>Doesn't care about privacy, blasts his porn full volume in the library and masturbates with both hands

the whores on Sup Forums dont even know what a Chad is (hint: its not Johnny Bravo), this meme is so retarded and only displays who clueless Sup Forums whores are

also the whores on Sup Forums would fuck a skinny tattooed covered douche a lot faster than the gay body builder homo assfucks

i am retard

I gotta admit you got me, thats chad between chads

Chad meme is dead. Keep up with the times.

That cool way to demonize someone who likes something you don't like is to call them soyboys.

t. soyboy

Protip: soyboyism is a legitimate scientifically backed concern that's affecting the white goyim population exponentially, it references lower than healthy levels of testosterone and a great increase in estrogens, be it phytoestrogens, metalloestrogens, etc.

Ever wondered why programming socks and leftist "ideologies" are gaining traction?

Leaving your computer plugged in is good for battery health, you nigger

How can your test be THAT low? Lack of exercise? diet? I'm concerned

Electrical engineer says no.
They will degrade no matter what.

>How can your test be THAT low? Lack of exercise? diet? I'm concerned

Enviromental xenoestrogens.
The soap you use? Yes
Shampoo? That's like injecting pure liquid estradiol into your veins
Plastics for food? You bet
Soybean oil and similar on processed food? Hell yes.
High carb diet? Lower testosterone
Many meals a day? Lower testosterone
Being fat? More estrogen
Pesticides in vegetables? yes
Hormones in meat? yes
Water which filtration didn't remove potent estrogenic substances that result from women's urine when on the pill and similar? Yep, right at your faucet.

It looks like a joke, but almost every fucking single thing in the modern world wants you to become a sissy soyboy with a big open mouth that is addicted to cuckporn unironically and is a feminist.

And yeah, about male brain and female brain being different? It's because testosterone and estrogen, do the math, men with female brains.

I just stopped lifting weights (Dont know what the proper idiom for that is in English) about 9 months or so, and I am not as dominant or confident. I think it is because working out with your buddies boosts testosterone.
But to get those low levels of testosterone in the pic is probably genetic or some shit

But they will degrade slower because they dont have to do such huge power cycles. If you got bad power management chips it will get fucked pretty fast though

Hey from /sci/! Phytoestrogens are chemically similar to estrogen but do not interact the same way at all. That claim comes from a study of sheep eating clover from the 1940s.
From that same series the "Try guys", they all get their sperm counted. Keith had something like 1.2 mil/ml which is very much above average.
Trying to tie "leftists" to soy is also based in fantasy. The Russians and Chinese have been eating soy for hundreds of years and they're the furthest away from the left. If you still want to hold that claim.

Next time bring more sources, thanks.

How is diet tied to feminism? Please give me one source showing that feminist eat more soy.

>gene gun was only invented in the 80s
>99% of soy is now transgenic gmo
>hundreds of years
ok

>trying to reason with Sup Forums with actual facts
Bold, but ultimately futile

Still not seeing any sources there bud :^)

Just to give more context to the chemically similar bit, they are structurally similar, that is, have a similar shape, but they're even made of different stuff:
Estradiol (estrogen): C18H24O2
Isoflavone (main phytoestrogen): C15H10O2

Are you under the impression that soy plants have phytoestrogens because of genetic modification?
This is simply factually incorrect.

>tfw CS major considering switching to CE
>want to because i want more EE knowledge but scared to do it because I'll just end up as a jack of all trades who'll end up in software anyways but at a disadvantage over the cs guys since they would know more

If it was up to me I'd major in EE but since I'm not retarded and actually want a job after I graduate I'm playing it safe and doing CS instead. I'd love to do CE if it actually felt I could get a job with it but instead I'd most likely end up as a shitty programmer making less then the CS fags. My unis CS and CE department are quite similar so I wouldn't even learn that much EE anyways.

I really can't see any reason why anyone would pick CE over CS or EE. You just put yourself at a disadvantage.

I'm the guy you're replying to, and I thought about making a proper reply but then, I have this debate all day every day, for being a science guy you don't know shit, which isn't uncommon at all because of the lies you get told in college, anyway.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4270274/

>In a case report on gynecomastia associated with soy consumption by a man it was noted that after the patient stopped consuming soy products, ‘his breast tenderness resolved and his estradiol concentration slowly returned to normal’

Long story short: phytoestrogens are weaker than human estrogen but THEY DO matter since they bond anyway to the proper receptors, they end up upping the overall levels of estrogen and have an ESTROGENIC effect on the body, so when you say that they do not interact the same way at all, you might want to check your facts bub.

>Trying to tie "leftists" to soy is also based in fantasy.

modern leftism = femenine thinking patters as per evolutionary psychology, you seem to have ignored that on my pic, explicitly says "gym bros more likely to be right-wing assholes, science confirms".

I'm not going to bother adding more to this post as it will probably amount to nothing and you'll keep thinking the way you do, but yes, everything about leftism is female, the whole philosophy behind it, the oversocialization it is based upon (see kaczynski).

And it's on the rise with no brakes full schizo mode coincidentally with the advent of the soyboy era, people with low t, feminine behaviors and overall the opposite of classical natural masculinity.

If you insist, then I agree, soy is so good I'm going to let you have it all and make a dildo out of it, post the result on facebook and make sure to open your mouth as hard as you can while taking the shot.

Feminism is tied to males with low testosterone and high estrogen, and diet can lead you to that state.

>virgin
uses github
>chad
saves all his work on 3.5 floppy disks

i use /two/ mice while working

>literally a single (1) case
You always get BTFO due to your complete lack of understanding of the most basic concepts in statistics

A 85+ gramp has more testosteron than this "guys", what are they??

did you put duct tape over your screen as well?

what for?

The New Male

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21175082
Soy as an endocrine disruptor: cause for caution?

Endocrine disrupting compounds (EDCs) alter the function of the endocrine system and consequently cause adverse health effects. Phytoestrogens, natural plant compounds abundantly found in soy and soy products, behave as weak estrogen mimics or as antiestrogens. They are considered to be EDCs, and have some beneficial effects on health, including reducing the risk of breast cancer and improving metabolic parameters. However, the supporting evidence that consumption of phytoestrogens is beneficial is indirect and inconsistent. Lifetime exposure to estrogenic substances, especially during critical periods of development, has been associated with formation of malignancies and several anomalies of the reproductive systems. Phytoestrogen consumption in infants, through soy-based formulas, is of particular concern. Prospective epidemiological studies for the evaluation of the effect of phytoestrogens alone, and in combination with other estrogenic chemicals, are lacking, yet possible adverse effects should not be taken lightly.

It's literally an hormonal disruptor and there have been cases out there of it fucking up pubescent kids.

I don't know what kind of cuckold you must be to defend this, I mean you don't even need any case, just use logic.

estrogen -> feminization
traps take pills to lower t or increase estrogen production
phytoestrogen -> weaker than regular estrogen but still works as intended -> feminized male

Get fucked cuck. My condolences if you ever manage to reproduce, poor kid. Try to learn the most basic concepts in logic, as per your wording.

numales, new males, new men, good goyim, soyboys, the feminist ideal, etc. they go by many names.

I found the screen pretty useless and it emits light / can't be turned off

>virgin
only uses object-oriented garbage-collected "safe" languages like Java

>chad
writes native code in pure assembly, doesnt even know that higher level languages exist

>several massive meta-analyses show no evidence of any particular effect much less a feminizing one
vs
>one (1) anecdote

Obviously the winner is the one you already agreed with, right?
And yet you're the one trying to pull some "holier than thou" attitude about how your """evidence""" won't convince someone else?

Go retreat to your echo chamber with its feel-good culture war narrative.

>>several massive meta-analyses
Please link them, I'm considering dropping flaxseed oil from my diet.

oh, you mean on the spacepilot
na, it doesn't distract me, though i admit i've rarely used the functions on it as the buttons aren't terribly easy to reach (except the view/2d lock keys, i use those often)

Correlation=/=Causation dumb brainlet

Yeah the ergonomics are a bit bad
I got it for its many buttons and only really use the ones on its sides as well

Nu-males created by tap water contaminated with metric shitloads of medical waste, soy isn't a real problem in comparison with that, tap water turning frogs homo and Jewish Hollywood culture is

>virgin
Food on the table
>chad
Clean and order table

Meant for

>several massive meta-analyses show no evidence of any particular effect much less a feminizing one
Post them, cuck.

>one (1) anecdote

No, vs. logic. I repeat:

estrogen -> feminization
traps take pills to lower t or increase estrogen production
phytoestrogen -> weaker than regular estrogen but still works as intended -> feminized male

Point a flaw in this argument. Is basically saying water is wet, but you might need to spin your braincell harder than usual.

>phytoestrogens increase your estrogen levels
>but they aren't the cause, it's just correlation

Have I just triggered all the programming sock guys or what? You go finger yourself with soy oil or something, I don't care. I only post so people with enough braincells realize the truth and can be saved from this cancer.

Flaxseed is 3 times worse than soy, it contains about x3 more phytoestrogens, I advise you to stay the fuck away unless you want to transition.

You are right, the worst comes from females on the pill, they don't remove that shit from water, apparently it would be extremely expensive (for them).

i got this mainly because i couldn't imagine the one with just the control knob being nice to use (for the same reason the iMac "puck" was bad, no way to keep it oriented right, and how does it stay down when pulling it up?), plus the wrist rest is nice

Also about the gay frogs meme, it's mostly told and worded so it sounds like lunacy or something but it's perfectly logical, those "gay frogs" are just pumped full of estrogen because of the water. People downplay the effects of hormones badly, their loss. Looks like they want to keep their fairy tale about everyone being equal and biology not mattering alive.

Put the manliest and most rational guy on eath on trap pills, see what happens.

Your own source BTFOs you, and the multiple studies are referenced in it in the very first paragraphs
This completely debunks you
>Apart from singular reports e.g. on changes of the gender-related behavior in girls [32] or gynecomastia in a man [33] after intake of soy products, no data on modification of gender-related characteristics or feminization in humans in consequence of soy consumption have been found. There was a singular report on an inverse association between soy food intake and sperm concentration in men [34].
You could argue, at best, that there's not enough studies on the effects of soy intake in men

What about those massive meta-analyses though?

We seem to have vastly different understanding of what BTFO means, because that quotes basically says nothing.

Do you have a way to counter the logic I used? Come on, try you soybo.

estrogen -> feminization
traps take pills to lower t or increase estrogen production
phytoestrogen -> weaker than regular estrogen but still works as intended -> feminized male

I don't think they are coming anytime soon, he had to quote something irrelevant, that means he has nothing.

They're referenced in the very first paragraphs, at last read the thing instead of spamming shit tier Sup Forums pasta and completely irrelevant infographics and learn2basic stats and drop the elementary school tier logic
>Evidence in support of clinically relevant biological effects has, however, been generally rated as insufficient or absent [5], [8], [9], [10], [11], [12], [13], [14]
All of the articles referenced are meta analysis, dunno' about the "massive" claim of the other user though, I seriously doubt they're and I'm not going to read them

Yeah if you don't always wanna be careful moving the single one you basically have to fix it to a plate or get something like pic related
The big ones with buttons are always the better choice unless you want to use 2 at the same time

Soylent doesn't even contain soy dumb brainlet, it's a bunch of minerals with dairy-based protein powder intended as a full meal replacement, he became a trap faggot for following tumblr trends and reddit memes

Why should I read his article to find your sources? You should have them at hand if you're going to complain about others not sourcing their claims. You're saying the massive analyses you were aware of before entering this thread are coincidentally the same as those references? Tell that to your grandma.

I'm not that user, lrn2read

We're all "not that guy but"

Yeah, also keep shifting the goalposts

>mfw developers call themselves "engineers"

Where are my goalposts in your opinion? Did you post your sources yet so I would have a reason to move them?

Is it really bad leaving your computer plugged in?
Im not using a macbook but a Thinkpad T430 in a docking station!

Yes, they're in the article posted, and you shifted the goalpost from "soy feminizes men" to "you aren't spoonfeeding me links"
It's better to leave anything made in the last decade plugged in, unless the battery is completely fucked and about to explode

>Chad
>Floppy

Being asked to post your sources after you dismiss claims for not citing sources along them isn't being asked to be spoonfed, it's being asked to be consistent. I already conveniently finding your exact sources in the article someone else linked is not how you substantiate your claims.

Idk if anyone cares anymore, but here's your image OP

The point was that the r/T_D faglord couldn't even bother to actually read the article, since every argument against his claims came from his own source

files.soylent.com/pdf/soylent-nutrition-facts-2-0-en.pdf
"Soy Protein Isolate"

I feel like I'm actually being trolled so I'm going to stop posting.

>le pasta
>le irrelevant

Still can't debunk my water is wet logic? I'll post it again for the last time as I'm going to sleep.

estrogen -> feminization
traps take pills to lower t or increase estrogen production
phytoestrogen -> weaker than regular estrogen but still works as intended -> feminized male

More tard version:

ESTROGEN -> BAD 4 MALES

PHYTOESTROGEN -> LESS STRONK THAN ESTROGEN, BUT WORKS THE SAME -> BAD 4 MALES

DUN EAT DA SOY, BOY

chads don't masturbate. ever.

no u

>hormonal disruptors dont real
>"apart from these cases, no more cases are known" implying this debunks anything

Apart from you, no more retards itt are known, this means retards dont real by your logic

>MUH TREMP BOOGYMAN!!!!!
>OMG HE DUN LIEK SOY, HE T_D

How do you explain leftists that don't eat soy products? I prefer eating meat and generally avoid soy based products because they taste like shit. I don't look super manly either but that's because my parents were manlets and I lost the genetic lotto. I sure as shit don't go around with that hipster beard and glasses with that stupid mouth open excited expression plastered on my face all the time. In spite of all that I'm pretty solidly libertarian-left.

You can't just attribute "the white race" becoming less manly because of what they eat. It's probably more likely people are just less uptight and nobody gives a fuck about living up to expectations of "manliness" anymore. I don't care if you want to be manly or not desu. Just don't act like a fucking autist or a tumblr-tard about it. I don't understand why this shit is so hard for people.

Chad never feel ashamed sex or fapping

>my anecdotical evidence can be extrapolated to the masses
Welp.

Hormonal disruptors aren't only in soy Libertarian left is pretty much retarded and oxymoronic, so there's definitely something impairing your reasoning

>left = big gubmint
>libertarian = small or non-existant gubmint

I'm sure hearing you explain how leftist policies are going to be enforced in a libertarian world is comedy gold, but let's stick to the point.

You can have low t naturally aswell, I'm just explaining why it is mainstream now.

>You can't just attribute "the white race" becoming less manly because of what they eat.

Ok, get a manly man and give him trap pills during a determined amount of time and report back. Biology dun real.

None of them prove conclusively that soy phytostrogens are a hormonal disruptor, a single case doesn't prove your claim
He doesn't, he's retarded and can't do much more than shitpost his logical phalacies
Neither can he explain why most nu-males are bald, which is a sign of high T, despite their feminization and soy-vegan diet, he only shitposts off-topic shit on Sup Forums since Sup Forums finally became too much of a echo chamber for him

>None of them prove conclusively that soy phytostrogens are a hormonal disruptor
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21175082

Endocrine disrupting compounds (EDCs) alter the function of the endocrine system and consequently cause adverse health effects. Phytoestrogens, natural plant compounds abundantly found in soy and soy products, behave as weak estrogen mimics or as antiestrogens. They are considered to be EDCs, and have some beneficial effects on health, including reducing the risk of breast cancer and improving metabolic parameters. However, the supporting evidence that consumption of phytoestrogens is beneficial is indirect and inconsistent. Lifetime exposure to estrogenic substances, especially during critical periods of development, has been associated with formation of malignancies and several anomalies of the reproductive systems. Phytoestrogen consumption in infants, through soy-based formulas, is of particular concern. Prospective epidemiological studies for the evaluation of the effect of phytoestrogens alone, and in combination with other estrogenic chemicals, are lacking, yet possible adverse effects should not be taken lightly.

enhs.umn.edu/current/5200/estrogen/phyto.html


Phytoestrogens

Endocrine disruptors are found naturally in our diet. There are many plant sources that are sources of estrogens called phytoestrogens. Phytoestrogens are found in many fruits and vegetables and also can be found in some animal products. Foods can be divided into those that are a source of natural estrogens and those that inhibit estrogen. Not all foods have the same amount of phytoestrogens. Foods with the most phytoestrogens include soya, particularly tofu and miso, other pulses, citrus fruits, wheat, licorice, alfalfa, fennel and celery.

etc. I'm not going to paste pages of google's results to you, you are just retarded and wrong, gotta deal with it asap.
Also, about the baldness, that's a myth, and no, most numales aren't bald, fuck off.

>le shitpost
>le logical fallacies

estrogen -> feminization
traps take pills to lower t or increase estrogen production
phytoestrogen -> weaker than regular estrogen but still works as intended -> feminized male

More tard version:

ESTROGEN -> BAD 4 MALES

PHYTOESTROGEN -> LESS STRONK THAN ESTROGEN, BUT WORKS THE SAME -> BAD 4 MALES

DUN EAT DA SOY, BOY

Show us how you are right.

Prove this reasoning wrong, prove water isn't wet.

>Hormonal disruptors aren't only in soy

Okay, looking at the list of shit that allegedly contains hormonal disruptors that you posted I can already find a huge flaw with your argument. Nealy all of that shit is not disproportionately consumed by the left. Right-wingers used soap (hopefully) and put their food in plastic. I bet they eat soy products too, probably unknowingly but still. Many of them have high carb diets and are fat and they eat the same vegetables we eat with the same goddamn pesticides.

Why aren't you some fucking leftist fairy yet? Why do right wingers still exist? You can't seriously expect me to believe everyone on the right avoids all of those products?

>Ok, get a manly man and give him trap pills during a determined amount of time and report back
Big difference. Much higher dosage in a shorter amount of time. You're going to have a much higher concentration of female hormones in your body.

this

You said it yourself you gigantic retard, dosage. leftists are more prone to "go vegan" and stuff their fucking mouths in soy and similar shit, every bit helps up the dosage.

Leftists' lifestyles are prone to more xenoestrogenic contamination from several sources.

Overall, men are softer and faggier, but leftists just take the whole cake and transcend boundaries.

>You can't seriously expect me to believe everyone on the right avoids all of those products?
Well, they sure are more woke to the issue and avoid certain stuff, thus lowering the dosage.

Go back to leftypol and never come here again.

Is this the new fluoride scare?

there is a lot of money funding these disinfo agents
wow

...

>like ugh, fluoride is good for you, we should all get waste products on our water against our will anyway, fucking Sup Forums

Oh that's cute. Did you just vaguely gloss over the abstract and assume it supported your argument based on the title?

This paper is primarily addressing consumption of phytoestrogen consumption at critical periods in development, such as infancy. I read that as you probably want to avoid feeding soy based products to your infant and children as that is a fairly critical time in reproductive development. However while it mentions lifetime exposure MIGHT have adverse affects it's not conclusive and more research needs to be done. I'd say there's no solid link between consumption of soy based products as an adult and any weird hormonal imbalances. Definitely needs more research for a more conclusive answer.

What is that supposed to mean? That's just a jew who profited from people's unrest through manipulation.

Why don't you post a picture of your average sjw leftist as of curren year?

I don't collect memes from Sup Forums.

And you have the nerve to get up my ass about posting anecdotal evidence? None of the claims you made here are substantiated. You are making blanket assumptions about the lifestyles of large statistically diverse groups. If you aren't interesting in providing some numbers and data to backup your claims then I'm not interested in engaging with you anymore.

So what's your score?
menshealth.com/health/is-your-testosterone-level-normal

"the researchers determined that anything between 264 to 916 ng/dL is considered normal for healthy-weight men between the ages of 19 and 39."

They seem to be in the upper echelon

You do know that a lot of animals get pumped full of estrogen?
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10366402

?Fucking hell guys, He just uses a fucking Windows 10 PC!

Holy shit, I CAN GET PAID TO SHITPOST!?

>le excited soyface

So where to do I sign up and how much do I get paid per post? Does pushing a political agenda pay more or is shilling products more profitable?

>dude it doesn't matter, just eat the soy
>dude it's just anecdotes, just a concern for kids, you aren't a kid aren't you? you're a big boy, eat your soy

When lead was found to be poisonous, lead piping industry funded massive campaigns in favor of lead pipes.

The standard american diet high in carbs has been found to be the cause of the obesity and diabetes epidemic, yet it is still mainstream and considered "normal", and many "doctors" will swear on their lives it's ok and healthy.

When tobacco was found to be harmful, same thing happened.

So yeah, I'm going to believe logic and reason and stay clear of foods high in phytoestrogens. Stay angry, soyboy.

You should like a shill btw, why this fanaticism to defend xenoestrogens anyway? Are you trying to justify your habits?

Just prove this wrong and I'll eat my shit:

estrogen -> feminization
traps take pills to lower t or increase estrogen production
phytoestrogen -> weaker than regular estrogen but still works as intended -> feminized male

More tard version:

ESTROGEN -> BAD 4 MALES

PHYTOESTROGEN -> LESS STRONK THAN ESTROGEN, BUT WORKS THE SAME -> BAD 4 MALES

DUN EAT DA SOY, BOY

Just find a flaw on this reasoning, just do that.

Okay, so I made an economy.

You guys are silence.s/

> I have become autist
> Destroyer of logic and reason

Apparently, Acoustics are important.

Phytoestrogens aren't just "Estrogen light"
It's more complex than that.
They can even reduce estrogen levels in a human body in some situations.

Why the fuck would I ever make memes when I can just meme you cunts into 'honorable' emceeing for free?

~Solivagus.

>they can
>they may
>they might

I don't care, there is no reason I should eat something that's a risk with no reward and is a literal endocrine disruptor. Which is promoted by one of the most deceiving backstabbing industries such as the food industry.

Just keep it all for you I want none of it, put it in your ass soyboy.

I don't really care what the hell you eat. It's your body, feel free to do as you please with it. But extend everyone else the same courtesy. When you go on ridiculous tirades about how some evil entity (who?) is trying to eliminate manliness you fuel conspiracy and fear which eventually leads to legislation being passed that restricts the rights of others and is harmful to business.

How terrible that a libertarian leftist has to school YOU about why your irrational fear leads to an overreaching government and why it's unfriendly to business. This should be the other way around.

No food in the world doesn't contain something that might construe some kind of risk.

>When lead was found to be poisonous, lead piping industry funded massive campaigns in favor of lead pipes.
That's funny as even Romans knew lead is poisonous, but having fresh water in the cities justified it for them. The soyboy meme is still retarded.