The age of cheap GPU is over, the age of overpriced GPU has begun.
Thx to GPU mining and overpriced cryptocoins due to speculation and FOMO, GPU will always never come down to their pre-crypto price. Nobody will ever build more fabs to make more GPUs because of the volatility of cryptocurrency, which means supply will be the same but demand is 5x.
Enjoy your $2000 mid-range GPU
I don't play games any newer than 2011 and seeing the entitled manchildren here foaming about miners, prices and whatnot is absolutely hilarious.
I hope this situation stays, midrange GPU prices should normally be around $500+
same here
I am playing alpha centauri right now.
I've seen RX 580s go for about 500 or so, and that's what I'm willing to pay for one, but if they get any higher it's just not worth it
Stop whining you little bitch.
They're not overpriced they're just in high demand.
>they'll never come down
If they don't they're probably in high demand still.
The GPU vendors don't set the price according to what's 'right' other than what they can charge you for it. So if gamers are retarded (as is implied by group belonging) they might not stop themselves from buying significant quantity at this price. Then you'll see a price hike.
Anyway. You likely don't actually play games that can justify their resource utilization. Ask your developers to stop being apes. Just yesterday some gamer came to me arguing that PUBG is facing an inherently bad problem and it's poor performance is justifiable. And he hadn't even opened it in his render debugger.
Fucking idiot.
got a Vega 64 at launch at msrp so I'm good for now :^)
Sell it for $1000 and post your sale on Sup Forums, people will blow their top.
>GPU will always never come down to their pre-crypto price.
>mining will continue forever
>cryptocurrencies will become the primary use of electrical power
>tangle don't real
>proof-of-stake don't real
lol
Yeah, all my games are from 2004 and below so my little old Geforce GT 740 SC is plenty for them. About the only component that I buy anymore is HDD for constant storage upgrades/expansion to my server + backups.
If GPU demand is 5x and this demand never goes away, which it will, then manufacturers will just make 5x as many cards to accommodate the demand and prices will go back down.
>then manufacturers will just make 5x as many cards
Oh, and memory makes will also make 5x as much memory and fab capacity will increase that much as well? Retard, to make a graphic card you need components from like 5+ different companies.
I'm kinda glad I stopped playing video games
>GPU will always never come down to their pre-crypto price.
>Nobody will ever build more fabs to make more GPUs because of the volatility of cryptocurrency
You do realize this is a direct contradiction right? If the demand continues for so long that GPU prices "never come down" then the demand is not "volatile", so more fabs will be built.
>tfw bought 2 1060 3gb below market price in dec.
Nice lotr reference.
But no, everyone needs tae chill and get some patience.
>overpriced tech is good
Kill yourself.
When your card eventually dies (they all do), you'll be royally fucked.
I don't buy said overpriced tech, that's your problem.
>Not having plentiful spares
I stocked up on Thinkpads. Not my problem.
Pascal production ended to make room for Ampere, calm the fuck down autist.
>When your card eventually dies (they all do), you'll be royally fucked.
The old games I play can be played with integrated shit or very low discrete GPU, so no, I won't be fucked.
It's not only a GPU shortage but a memory shortage too. It doesn't matter if NVIDIA or AMD ordered more GPUs since GDDR5 is fucking expensive at the moment and the supply is limited.
The memory cartel is making sure computers are going to stay expensive for the foreseeable future. They are currently raking in record profits but are not going to significantly increase the manufacturing capacity despite increasing demand because they know the mobile phone and computer industry has nobody else to buy the memory from and it's more profitable to let the companies bid for the limited supply of DRAM chips instead of actually responding to the demand by increasing production.
The only acceptable use for GPUs is training machine learning models.
Greedy miners and vidya kids need to GTFO and get a real job / life
Is this that rumor of a rumor rumor from 3Dcenter?
Great source.
60% of Nvidia’s revenue is gaming.
The memory shortage is also attributed to smartphones. Thank all those new cheap Chinese smartphone manufacturers.
>Local retailer sells the following
1080 ti - 1k
1070 ti and 1080 - 900
1070 and below - 650+
Your mid range GPU has gone up by 250 from 300-400, that's all that happened. High end cards are still stupid expensive, and there's still tons of low end options Further to that the low end options play 90% of games perfectly fine.
>not even considering affordable ASIC miners
here's what will happen. difficulty will go up so high that you'll need a next level ASIC miner to get a chance at getting anything. gpu demand will disappear overnight, floods of second hand high tier gpus will drop the price on everything. what don't plebs like you understand about bubbles? this isn't sustainable growth, it is mathematically determined that btc is a finite resource
the only reason if any they'll stay at this price is due to inflation but the second hand market will make sure that doesn't happen
>here's what will happen. difficulty will go up so high that you'll need a next level ASIC miner to get a chance at getting anything. gpu demand will disappear overnight, floods of second hand high tier gpus will drop the price on everything.
Uh, you do realize the only reason this is happening in the first place is because the algorithms were specifically chosen to be ASIC resistant?
Memory makers will eventually do that even if it's years from now.
Good thing I stopped playing games a year ago so much trash these days.
>there's still tons of low end options
Such as? I bought a 1050ti last summer because of outrageous mid range prices. firguring I'd slum it with a low-end until the shortage ends. Now you can't get a 1050ti for less than a few hundred dollars.
>seeing the entitled manchildren here foaming about miners, prices and whatnot is absolutely hilarious.
This.
Either man up and get a job so you can afford a hi-end gpu, or if you want to be gayming so badly, get a fucking playstation.
btc isn't asic resistant and the whole market runs off btc at the moment, if bitcoin collapses crypto is dead and everyone knows it
please keep posting these, us non fagmers very much enjoy the tears
Sup Forums tells people to go to work and stuff.
But should we accept that a 1060 6gb gpu is on the same price range as a iphone 8?
I don't a 1060 6gb is all that overkill for having it in a "budget" build. I wish i knew the prices goes up this much. While i got the money, but my body is screaming that this is a very bad investition.
Even a 1050ti (iphone 5s) is ridiculously expensive. (compared from before)
I really hope that the next line of GPU will be less expensive. Even - 30% would be better.
Why don't you CIA niggers just buy the cards and mine with them until you get the extra price back?
>Sup Forums BTFO
This makes me so happy.
don't forget the huge scientific and business demand for CUDA shit to run their tensorflow, or whatever is the new hot thing, using crap.
I don't know of any games that can be played using integrated graphics. When my GPU broke and I couldn't afford to buy a new one, I had to use onboard graphics for over a year and it was very painful and restrictive, watching a 720p video put an immense stress on it and it sometimes struggled to process it, some web pages couldn't load. It was hell. Literally no idea what games you're talking about. Are they text-based? Well then I guess you're safe.
Something msdos and maybe before 2005
UHD 630 is a pretty good iGPU and ryzen is getting even better(?).
So maybe the age of iGPU is coming. Or everyone get's fed up. And stops buying product till the prices goes back by atleast -30-40%
low end gpus are still cheap and no miner or gamer wants them but its more than enough for me if i buy those amd things that wont have an igpu.
>I don't know of any games that can be played using integrated graphics
???
Diablo series ?
Morrowind?
Gothic and Risen series
OG Witcher
Bunch of classic JRPG
All Infinity Engine games
Source games
KOTOR*
Fallout 1-2
HoMM 2-3
DMoMM
VTMB
ToEE
etc etc etc
Most good games are playable on integrated
I love how gaymers got BTFO by miners.
Yes but right now they're worried that the crypto mining induced demand could disappear or be significantly reduced at any time. It's risky to make large long term capital investments in more production capacity when they can't be sure the crypto market isn't going to suddenly collapse. Best thing for gamers and casual users would be for some other tech to take the place of GPU mining.
Just like with OPEC, that works fine until someone in the cartel starts to cheat or an outside producer ramps up production. Memory production does have significant barriers to entry but the price can't be held high forever before attracting outsiders who want a piece of the pie.
Depends on the, mine wouldn't be able to run 3D games like Witcher or Morrowind.
Mining based crypto currency has a lifespan. If it actually has a wide spread use, it needs to be fast. Bitcoin is actually shit because it's so slow. It will get better eventually.
What would be a good buy?
Also which gpu aren't targeted by them?
I thought a 1050ti wouldn't be (maybe they are targeted by the gamers?)
>The age of cheap GPU is over
It's been over for years dude. If you're only now realizing GPUs are overpriced then you are underage or retarded.
I have a job and these prices are still outrageous and beyond what I'm willing or able to pay. I did buy a PS4 just to avoid booting into Windows to play games but they're still games that I am unable or unwilling to play on console.
I can't clean the same since I started playing Total War Warhammer and absolutely love it. My R7 I bought back in 2013 is doing an okay job with it is definitely showing its age it might run into a game it can't handle or strugge too emulate PS3 games. I ended up building a whole new computer because my pre bulldozer era AMD chip because it couldn't emulate most GameCube games at full speed and was beneath the minimum requirements to play nuDoom. (which was good but not great and made me fall in love of classic Doom.) It's still pretty rare for me to play AAA stuff on PC so I could get away with upgrading to another low end card but after finally getting a job I was looking forward to upgrading to a nice mid end one.
I feel bad for anyone whose work actually requires a high-end GPU like photo and video editing or special effects in indie films.
>I don't play games any newer than 2011