News: Ryzen APUs will release on Feb. 12. 2200G and 2400G are similar to 1200 and 1400 but have Vega graphics. 2400G performance has leaked out with some consumer models getting sold early. >1080p Overwatch, Rocket League, CS:GO, GTA V, Destiny 2, and Diablo 3 get 50+ fps at default/low settings >720p PUBG at low settings
If you want help: >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs: >NO i5 7500/7600K or i7 7700/K. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY COFFEE LAKE >R5 1600 / i5 8400 - Great gaming (especially the i5 8400) or multithreaded use CPUs (especially the R5 1600) >R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper / i7 - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use
RAM: >Current CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal >Before buying RAM for Ryzen, check your Mobo's QVL or look for user reports
Graphics cards: >Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon) 1080p >MSRP of standard 1080p cards: 1050Ti, 140USD; 1060 3GB, $200; 1060 6GB, $230; RX 570 4GB, $170; RX 580 4GB, $200 >GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >GTX 1070/Ti and 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced >GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4K) >GTX 1080Ti
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 240GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor
Just a friendly reminder that getting a refurbished office PC with a 3rd or 4th gen i5(i7 if you get a lucky find) and 8-16gbs of ram is the absolute best deal poorfags can get right now.
All you gotta do is throw in a low profile 1050ti.
Kevin Cruz
Fuck you.
Have you booted into Windows safe mode and reinstalled the driver? Or can you not reach the desktop? Based Windows 10. If you have an iGPU either remove the 960 or switch it off in BIOS.
Aaron Russell
>Fuck you.
Not very friendly, friend.
Jace Perez
Because the poster count being 2 confirms you're OP and the memetop shill. You've been exposed.
This thread will never be successful!
Elijah Long
I wasn't trying to hide the fact that i was OP, and i'm not shilling laptops.
Henry Morris
the hell are you on about? so what if the OP posts again
Cooper Turner
Lads with my 2400g on the way I want a mini ITX system with just the APU no grafix card.
Which mini ITX case would you pick out of the three here? Setting aside the price, just judging the cases themselves.
Both of those are so ugly though fayum. Does a non-ugly one with a slot for a slim loading optical drive exist?
Alexander Myers
Anyone think it would be nice if there were retro style cases that mimic the 80's aesthetic?
Jonathan Baker
>nobody likes 3 But the FT03 is pure kino
Grayson Murphy
I've picked up several XPS 8500's with i7 3770's and 12GB RAM for $200. Don't even need a low profile low power GPU. They can handle a 1070.
Kevin Taylor
the first one (white silverstone) cause it seems like working with it is not a pain in the ass or at least less of a pain than the other 2 cases.
Julian Gomez
Best budget server build for webhosting?
Jack Baker
>subjective tastes Can't win with cases, ever.
Ayden Gonzalez
for an office or htpc you are just better off getting a refurbished SFF dell and dropping in a low profile video card.
Anthony Reed
JUST
Josiah Ramirez
Hosting what? Your private page with 1 hit/mo? A free Pentium 4.
Eli Nelson
nah probably gonna end up getting the ft03 mini though
Camden Mitchell
Company webpage and then a database and webapp for our ERP. We're a startup and I've been put in charge of everything related to tech.
Jack Adams
The Ryzen 2400g will be enough to play new mmorpg games and fighting games at 1080 medium/low?
Charles Thomas
>Optical drive Lol wut?
Anthony Jones
kek even an overclocked Ryzen 3 1200 can do that, matched with a 1050ti or a 1060
Eli Peterson
So the ERP is on another machine? A free Pentium 4.
Colton Flores
yeah, go look at the 2400g leaked reviews. it can play overwatch 90fps on medium
Sebastian Thompson
You're self hosting? Sounds like a bad idea from the start.
William Mitchell
Really? You're false flagging as OP now? Whats with you?
Josiah Bell
I mean, without graphics card
Landon Lopez
The Ryzen 3 1200 doesn't have integrated graphics, which are what's in question here.
Justin Nguyen
>fighting games serious question why arent you using a ps4? the fighting game community doesnt really use PCs m8
William Hall
It is right now, I don't know if it would be more efficient to be on the same machine.
We already pay for good business class Internet, and we have some available hardware.
Caleb Ross
At low probably.
Brandon Jackson
Better pray it can't be used to bounce into your local network.
Chase Wilson
I picked up two IBM X3850 M2s for 70 bucks recently to do the job, but i'm starting to think it was a bit overkill and starting from scratch would be a simpler approach
Parker Bennett
That's true, The ERP isn't going to need a lot of bandwidth or computing power so I can just stick in on a low power machine off our main LAN
Jaxon Bell
>6-core >ddr2 I never knew Intel made a C2Q era hex.
Tyler Butler
More mmorpg games in pc, and i dont want to pay PSN
Logan Morgan
It has 4 of those processors too, and maxed out RAM at 63GB
Jackson Butler
for fighting games, you dont wanna use a pc unless you just play them for the single player campaign. but who the fuck does that? pc communities for fighting games tend to die out a month or two after release
Julian Ortiz
Not bad, but also not all that good unless you need all that compute on the cheap since that would probably cost you ~$300/yr in electricity to run it at idle.
Jack Nelson
this, most people are using the console plus a fight stick
Noah Adams
Electric is included in our bill, so I'm not worried about that, and plus they were free, but like I said, overkill, So I'm thinking I'll build a decent newer hardware server for each of our stuff and then mothball those for now, maybe break them out if we get mad popular our I have someone make a networking app, but at that point we'd just spring for new equipment or host it somewhere. So any cool things I could do with these bricks?
Jace Campbell
is there even much monetary savings building a low spec light duty machine?
that one looks like the trickiest one to work with
Aiden Thomas
>is there even much monetary savings building a low spec light duty machine? Probably not. A RPi or your smartphone would suffice if the traffic is reasonable and you're not doing a lot of backend stuff.
Grayson Mitchell
Just hook them up and let me remote in so I can encode anime on them.
Christian Walker
switch all the light bulbs to LED to offset the costs if you are still using 60 watt bulbs. led bulbs last for a really long time so you can just swap them out when you move.
Benjamin Perry
Ok, I'm about to fall for the memepasta. So I found a dell xps with an i7 3770 for like 135 bucks on Craigslist, it doesn't come with a hard drive which is fine since I'll just swap in my old one but anyway on to the question.
Would getting this plus a 1050ti be better if all I'm doing is gaming/light editing/streaming? Or should I get a cheap ryzen apu system and just wait out the cryptomania?
Jayden Hill
honestly not a bad idea. Maybe Sup Forums wants to do some group project or someshit with them, idgaf.
we already do, and they're at my office not my house lmao.
Kayden Evans
Yes. APUs suck.
Chase Hill
the 1050ti will beat the APU it is going to be easier to upgrade the apu system though
Leo Rivera
>RPi or your smartphone a conventional computer as an HTPC is still more versatile.
RPi you gimp performance Android box you gimp the UI
Austin Ramirez
I know, but most office PC's on ebay are SFF ones.
Jackson Diaz
nibba get the ryzen APU, Ivy Bridge is heavily affected by meltdown. haswell and ivy were hit really hard by it, at least 15 to 20%
Alexander Brooks
how many employees does your company have that require ERP access?
Liam Sanchez
You're massively exaggerating and neither patches are something a regular user even needs to enable.
Kayden Nelson
that's actually a decent price If he's only doing gaming/light editing/streaming, then he won't really see any perf hit. So long as he patches his shit he'll be fine.
Elijah Barnes
Oh, I could set up a Sup Forums CTF if anyone wants to give me some pointers on it.
Josiah Jenkins
>massively exaggerating No I'm not. Haswell and ivy were absolutely cucked by meltdown
Parker Cooper
I have two systems with 3770/3770s, I haven't seen a noticeable drop after applying the patches, of course I shitpost/stream HD content/transcode/game mainly.
Mason White
Just leave.
Colton Nguyen
at the moment, 9. I stepped into a startup since I was friends with the CEO and the dude is tech illiterate so I pretty much did all the work I could to modernize our organization of shit, these guys were working with paper so it wasn't hard.
Jaxon Collins
OK I've read all your replies. I'm gonna go with the dell, thanks guys.
Kevin Edwards
which ERP are you using?
Colton Robinson
My situation summarized, is that I am now a CTO with no tech experience outside of my hobbies and I'm paid regardless of shit I do since I already dragged the company out of the stone age, so right now I have a lot of breathing room to figure out how to make sure this company can handle expansion. Which is both nightmarish but nice since I get to start from the bottom.
Leo Garcia
$135 you can't go wrong since it will still be worth just about as much whenever you decide to sell it. (unless it's 10+ years from now)
Adrian Edwards
As long as it's not an SFF you've made the right choice. APUs are pretty bad.
Mason Ward
Perfex with small tweaks I made. The only reason I need it to be outside of our LAN is because it provides a customer portal and viewing of invoices/POs/Projects from the customer end, which would be great for our industry since it's filled with people that have no tech knowledge. Perfex is damn good, OSS and free btw, check it out if you want a decent minimal ERP/CRM
Benjamin Miller
At some point i'd like to build a very customized ERP system in Ruby to keep track of other shit besides the basics, but for right now this works just fine.
Nicholas White
I don't think any Dell XPS's are SFF anyway.
Brayden Bennett
have you ever considered running a bunch of virtual machines inside one box?
James Jackson
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Jackson Perez
Those are dell optiplexes, not XPS's.
Mason Jones
That's Optiplex
Luis Stewart
I have no experience in that area, but I have been pouring through documentation on that, and Docker and Kubernetes, etc. But since I haven't played around with these or know what would be the efficient I don't know which kind of infrastructure to make. I've been assaulted by so many buzzwords over the past few weeks about modern web-hosting techniques I'm a strung a bit thin, since I've only hosting things from hosting companies or used something like LAMP/WAMP/MAMP and had never even heard of shit like load balancers, but it is fascinating.
Cooper Ross
guys how does the 2400g compare to a ryzen 5 1600? obv the 1600 is more powerful but what about for multitasking, editing etc. will the 2400 be sufficient?
Carter Cooper
got the 745 SFF, great little HTPC
Leo Wilson
its easy... just look into "VMware".
Cooper Walker
I though Dell discontinued their XPS desktops long before the i7-3770? Is he sure it's an XPS?
Blake Robinson
Which one? I kind of like the 1000 because I have a fractal arc midi and I like the foam dust covers.
Forget that, I just have not seen any in years. My bad.
James Edwards
I’m looking to buy a monitor, budget is around 400usd. 4K HDR is on my wishlist, can anyone give me some suggestions? I would play some games on it but honestly I think it would be mostly used for watching movies.
Jacob Mitchell
Not going to look at your options, just going to suggest what I will use: Chieftec FI-01B-U3 (or 02 but I think 01 looks better). It's smaller than an original Xbox, features a 250 W PSU and is cheap (considering the PSU is included). I hate that "mini" ITX cases are usually over 10000 cm3, that's not small. What's the point of building a "small" computer that still doesn't fit in any backpack and isn't actually more portable than a regular ATX build?
Sup, mah dudes. Building a pc for the first time since my potato laptop is struggling. looking for 1080p 60fps for a gaming computer that can run most stuff. I already have a monitor and mouse but everything else needs to be new, also windows 10. Budget is about $3,000 NZD but lower would be nice. what would u recommend thx
Mason Johnson
the first one (Core 1000) because it has front usb 3.0 ports and the IO is off to the side. also has more airflow potential. the Core 1100 looks quieter but the front IO is dated as fuck, front face audio and USB ports are gay!
what are you even using this for?
Juan Brooks
get a used GPU until the current mining boom blows over and new models are released (both of these things need to happen to normalize GPU prices). since you're looking for 1080p 60fps the overall price shouldn't exceed 1000 $ by much (you do the conversion), unless you're talking about maxed settings.
Ethan Lewis
budget desktop/gaymen on the new 2400g and getting graphics card down the line
Brody Gray
What are currently the best monitors?
Aaron Martinez
been using them for 14 years and Gigabyte has never let me down.
Gigabyte is about as underrated as Asus is overrated.
Dylan Russell
ok thx, is that usd?
Isaac Smith
are there any retailers that sell parts that are already tested and verified to work properly? Don't really feel like dumping 1,000 dollars and then having to troubleshoot shit for 10 hrs afterwards.
Colton Martinez
any news on when the next gen ryzen or intel CPUs are coming out? I need to upgrade from my 3570k but this is a terrible time to do so
