Why is it so fucking expensive?

Why is it so fucking expensive?

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development costs and limited demand

>expensive
lol

amtemu is all you need

no competition. it's the only software that has the plethora of features it offers.

It's free, though...

No thank you

>gimp
lol

Because Adobe deserves something from those image filters you used to scam retards for their cash on Patreon.

>no competition

>don now abou torren haaaaaaaaaa

its not expensive is you use photoshop professionally.

if your program is the industry standard, wouldn't you want to take advantage of the monopoly?

It's expensive for companies, free for regular us

Enjoy your viruses and waiting months for updates (with viruses).

Enjoy your down syndrome.

Enjoy your cancer tornado.

>virus and waiting months
>with amtemu
enjoy ur literally who free shitware running in loonix

>viruses

>Why is it so fucking expensive?
If I buy photoshop for $500 or whatever,
then the very next week, produce some graphics with it and sell those graphics for $6000, it does not seem expensive. If I pay $500 in January and by December have made
$50,000 from it then it isnt expensive. If you cant afford it nobody is saying it is compulsory to have it. Find something you can afford or pay for a 30 day license for it. They arent really trying to sell it to crap heads who want to make babbys first Dubstep poster with it. They are aiming directly at the professional artists and printers who can afford it.

>paying to not own something

>10 bucks a month is too expensive
get a job

I wonder why.

You sound really stuck up and elitist

Used to be an Apple exclusive software.
Have you ever see an affordable apple products ?

20 bucks a month is expensive now?

I guess the reason is somewhere in-between it having no real competition and its piracy being prevalent.
Adobe simply doesn't target the general audience because they know said audience needs like 10% of Photoshop's functionality at most and isn't willing to pay the full price.
Meanwhile, the professionals who make money with it need it and will have to pay if they want to make said money officially.
For a piece of software, it's expensive as fuck.

You sound entitled.
(I used amtlib.dll though)

That was a LONG time ago, not a very good argument. :(

cuz apple fags pay arm & leg for their comp. so they'll probably pay another leg for software. జ్ఞా

>(I used amtlib.dll though)
so you agree that it is expensive?

Because they can make companies pay for it. They don't give a shit about home users pirating, they care about businesses buying it with legitimate threats of legal action if they don't.

You sound mentally retarded.

Become the facto standard on graphics design(poor affinity).

cs6 is like, everywhere for free you goob

Go drink some bleach, shit for brains.

>no competition (well, almost)

>I'm economically illiterate: The Thread
If it were too expensive, it would've gone out of business by now.
Photoshop is only expensive if:
1- You're dirt poor (in which case you shouldn't be worrying about getting Photoshop anyway)
2- Your time is worthless (in which case you're not skillful enough to get Photoshop, because if you were, you'd be getting well paid for your graphical skills and your time wouldn't be worthless)
3- You don't realize it's the very best at what it does (in which case you're an idiot)
/thread

A few years ago it was cheaper for an aussie to buy a flight to L.A, purchase the Adobe Master Suite, and buy a flight back to Australia tyhan it was to purchase the Master suite directly in Australia.

When asked why that is, the Adobe CEO answered like this:
youtube.com/watch?v=78yigV0GYGQ

Enjoy doing shit with that shit

LMAO
Are you in fucking high school?
If you're on the internet, Sup Forums no less, and don't know how to get a working pirated version of Photoshop, you're an idiot.

So corporations and schools can buy it and supply Adobe with more money to make it even better and further kick the ass of garbage freetard commieware like GIMP

If you aren't a corporation or school though you should just pirate it like everyone else does. This is first grade shit.

>10 bucks a month
>PS and LR
>fucking expensive

ITT: A bunch of people who forgot what it's like to purchase and own software because they've been conditioned to think paying software rent is normal

If you think photoshop is in any way expensive relative the the amount of money you're going to be making using it then you don't need photoshop.

I'm living in the hell universe and I WANT TO GET OFF THE RIDE.

>not free
>expensive

Why would you ever, ever need to update photoshop?

because a cup of coffee costs 50$ in san fagsisco and a mac pro costs like 5K or something. multiply that by the amount of homosexuals adobe employs and you get why they charge so much for their software.

Because it can.
Because if you make a living out of it, that sum of money probably means nothing to you.
If you don't want to pay the Adobe tax, just use Affinity Photo. 95% as good, while being a lot cheaper.
Or just use Gimp. 0,00003% as good, while being free.

Arrogance, pure and simple
And to a staggeringly high degree too

EVERY tech company is so god damn entitled. They make SHIT, ALL OF THEM

Why are artists always so cucked?

>Good art tools cost shit loads

>Graphic software cost shit loads

I don’t like this whole subscription based model for software. When will it go away?

Speaking of Adobe:
I'm used to Sony Vegas after years with a pirate copy. Changing my PC screwed up the license on it and it would be a pain in the ass to fix, so I want to get a legit copy of a video editor. I know that many people rave about Adobe Premiere, but before I throw money at them, is there something that can offer a similar level of power at a lower cost (whether it be monthly or one package or free, considering the amount CC costs and all)? I have plenty of money but I'd rather not buy something for more than it's worth.

Well maybe that is because I can afford to put PS on the 15 desktop computers I own and pay my staff to use. Maybe I earned the right to sound that way because I don't have to complain about how expensive photoshop is because I actually WORK FOR A LIVING

It works like this. Art takes a long long time to make, usually, and only the best art sells well, not many people get to be artists but when they do the rewards are sky high. People who facillitate art know this and so gallery owners, software producers, film and music studios all charge artists top dollar because great artists get top dollar. Now do you have a glimpse of the real world kiddo?

I want to use proprietary malware

>If I pay $500 in January and by December have made
>$50,000 from it then it isnt expensive.

>t. was married to a graphic artist who runs her own successful studio - you NEVER made 50k in a yr. EVER.

Because if it was cheap nobody would willingly pay for it anyway because it's garbage. So they chose to charge higher from companies they can keep in check.

>WORK FOR A LIVING

Sure you do. We all know that you libertarian fucks are all losers and anyone who runs that successful of a studio would know he can buy discount licenses and doesn't spend their time shitposting on Sup Forums

It's not.

£50/m for a business is fucking nothing and if I were freelancing it would still be nothing. If you can't make £50/m doing /gd/ then you should look elsewhere for a career.

Adobe makes virtually no money from personal users and exerts no effort to fully lock down CC, the same dll exploit that breaks licensing has been available for fucking years, it is stupidly easy to pirate and Adobe want to keep it this way. They want to keep it this way because the second I start working in a business they're going to buy me CC so I can do my job.

>her own studio
Well there's the problem. Big high paying clients don't use designers who work from their living room.

> trying to make a career from graphic design
Enjoy poverty. You better start learning how to suck cocks good because nobody gets into graphic design except for broke girls and they only become successful at it because they have boyfriends who pay for their existence. Graphic design has become brain dead easy. You might as well get a job as a "professional photographer" while you're at it

But high paying clients hire their CEO's daughter.

Purpose built eco-friendly innershitty studio piad for by her ....wait for it.....dad.

Her 2nd yr was just breakeven (200 something k turnover with 4 staff), she's got some noice corporate clients now that that bring in some big bucks but she had to let 2 staff go a year ago.

Why are you so fucking poor?

you enjoy much of that shit reposted here all the time :^)

>years ago friend asks if i want photoshop
>he sends me just an .exe file on skype
>no install, no setup, it just works with no additional files, fully functional
>had the file since around 2011/2012 and it still works with no issues
Someone please explain to a brainlet how this works

Ha! Fucking called it. Yeah, been there man. I would have been on easy street if I would have just kept my mouth shut but her entitled attitude toward everything drove me nuts. Also her furry brother creeped me out.

>I actually WORK FOR A LIVING
>spends his free time arguing on Sup Forums
"I-I- I WORK HARRRD >:(((( YOU'RE ALL JUST NECK BEARDS >:(((((((((((("

>because nobody gets into graphic design
Maybe if you're shit and retarded. I walked into a job with a BA third no problem.

>Justifying being cucked

And yet "artists are poor" continue to be a thing

She fucked a colleague. I found out. It wasn't pretty. Fortunately no kids and that was 20 odd yrs ago. Been married for most of that time..

She tried to rope me into a pity fuck about 5 yrs ago - she aged like milk....
I did moderately well out of considering she was the guilty party and her daddy is FUCKING RICH.

...

Except that is not how art works at all. I know a guy who has his degree and top tier equipment and can only get jobs freelancing. Rest of the time he works at a cheese steak place.
My ex girlfriend (who I mentioned before) gets huge clients despite having any real talent because her daddy is coo of a huge company. Another half ass Indian guy I know got a decent career in art because his relative is also a huge investor.
The fine art world is full of this crap, like isn't it economically weird that art brokers don't have public prices of their art work and will even refuse sale. Also that people have used the art market by promoting artists who whose art they purchased before they were famous so they could resale high or how companies hire art speculators to value "donations" to museums higher then the actual worth of a piece of art so they can get tax breaks.
Same crap goes on in the fine wine industry like intentionally under producing to drive up prices and make artificial gatekeepers. Or the yacht business (don't you find it odd all these rich people happen to be into boating of all things? Protip: they aren't)

sounds like a portable app, likely contains a virtual folder with usual cracked dll inside an install of photoshop when you click the exe it pretends to be the folder PS would usually be installed under eg C/Program Files/Adobe/Photoshop64bit
kind of like how GOG/steam sell old DOS games that launch a preconfigured copy of DOSBOX
this is assuming the file is a few hundred mb to a few gb if its just 12kb its probably just a rootkit he used to set all this up for you in advance then just made into a shortcut

>muh updates
LOL xD

Hey Schmieley, how's the stones and leaf collection under your bed doing and why are you not dead yet?

Yeah, mine cheated on me with some dude at Wal-Mart. Which of course was totally not her fault (like everything else). Her friend is the one who informed me. Ended up hooking up with her friend. Now she is a museum curator. I ended up with an ok friendly relationship with her because I didn't want to take the heat.

...

Are you by any chance?

Because they sell it to companies and companies, because of taxes, don't give a flying fuck about the price. They just write it off as business expense.

For painting/drawing I just use Krita now. Don't see any major advantages Photoshop has over Krita for artwork nowadays.

But I can see how it's still the best for photo editing. I never do any photo editing that requires more complexity/features than Gimp though.

Yup yup, I have a lot of experience in this field since I do development and design. Hung out with a kinda wealthy crowd for awhile. My dad was a pretty well known businessman in my area so everyone assumed I was wealthy (my dad was a Christian socialist and actually gave most of his money away) Saw totally great artists who went nowhere because of lack of social connections. Saw amateurs head hunted because of their associations and relatives. Even when Elon Musk discusses things like "you don't need a college degree, if you have a history of success, you'll be success" actually what he means by that is that if you are successful, you have some sort of unfair advantage. A company doesn't care about your degree, they'll hire you if they think they can buy that unfair advantage.
I'll own up to it, when I was younger I got put into positions I wasn't qualified for at all and unknowingly benefited from the nepotism as well.

>gimping yourself
kys yourself

You come across as incredibly jaded and salty.
I actually work in dev/design and it is very easy to get into work if you can code, your comments about women in /gd/ are projection and are totally not true, the gender division is pretty much 50/50.

Why would you claim that gd is brainless if you actually work in the industry? There are so many things you can do to make the job less brainless.

Check out the prices of Autodesk products if you want to know what expensive is...
Da Vinci Resolve

>You come across as incredibly jaded and salty.

I am jaded because I used to have the naive notion that people who work hard and are good get rewarded and I have seen too many talented friends work get squandered and too many amateurs in positions they don't deserve. Myself included. Look at all the successful people and look at their families. You'll soon see all of them come from good backgrounds and attend the same prestigious universities. A few are in their positions because of hard work, a lot just happened to get the right roll of the die.

>I actually work in dev/design and it is very easy to get into work if you can code,

If you can code. Yes, that's true. Because there is a lot of demand and not a lot of supply.

>your comments about women in /gd/ are projection and are totally not true, the gender division is pretty much 50/50.

Not in my experience, it's more like 20/80

>Why would you claim that gd is brainless if you actually work in the industry? There are so many things you can do to make the job less brainless.

I work in it because it IS brainless. I don't have to work that hard and I make decent money.

Ah cool, its a few hundred MB so probably the former. I figured it was some kind of containing file for everything but wasn't sure exactly how it worked, thanks.

>I don't have to work that hard and I make decent money.
And somehow that translates to "suck cock instead because only women get into gd lol"?

Sounds like a lot of projecting.

Lack of competition, freetards can't compete

>paying for software

I'll give it a shot.

What's wrong with stones under beds?

>muh art
>muh design
>muh creativity
>muh "selling graphics"
>muh vacation photos from muh DSLR
Contrary to what many of you deviantart-tier faggots seem to imagine, Adobe doesn't target artists, designers or "creatives". They make software for the pre-press and publishing industry and the fact that some people happen to do some creative things with it is completely coincidental and completely irrelevant to their business model.

My major was comp sci which gives me a headstart and my work in graphic design is more technical albeit kinda brainless considering.
From my experience, the people who work in the jobs you get with a BA usually have wealthy parents assisting in their career. Like I have said a million times now, I know people who are really talented who work in a multitude of mediums and have experience with all sorts of platform (cad, Photoshop, Corel. Webflow, zbrush, etc) who end up largely doing only contract work as it comes and have a second job.
I have seen a lot of people who have just meh Photoshop skills who start businesses, win contracts, and own studios largely because of their influence.
I have discussed business with people who own or manage large companies who intentionally give contracts to these studios regardless if they are needed because of soft power (you give CEO of one companies kid a job, you can use that as leverage and vice versa)
So, considering your competition. It's best to start sucking dick, because it'll probably greatly improve your odds of your degree being more then just an expensive hobby.
If you work in graphic design, I encourage you to start talking about the backgrounds and experience of your coworkers and friends.
Hilariously, one of my freelance underpaid friends who make decent money says like half her income is just doing furry stuff for people. They pay extremely well.
So.
There's that.

Because pic related. When's the last time Adobe did anything worth an honest fuck? Late 1990s? Those useless greedy cocksuckers haven't done jack shit since the Postscript days. Fuck Adopey. Pirate that shit, niggers.

>Unironically /threading your own post
Moot is spinning in his grave, at a speed that is flinging the cum from his every orifice at Mach V

>pay per month for software
>acceptable under any circumstances whatsoever

umm no sweetie those industries use their own software which is FAR more expensive than photoshop