TIME FOR THE CRUX CHALLENGE!!! If we can get 5 anons here to install CRUX on either real hardware or VMware, it's here to stay! If not, it's gone next thread! No Virtualbox.
Asher Sanders
also heres the WM comparison
Jayden Cook
wasn't kvm allowed too?
Nicholas Ward
I guess so. I just know that VMware and the real deal were the 2 situations people were having trouble on.
Mason Turner
>minimalizm >2018
top kek
Michael Watson
>いいえ、バカ
I decline. Just remove it, only like 2 people from the last thread thought it works great... Let's be honest, it's trash. Replace it with LFS or CloverOS.
Sebastian Harris
I guess I can join in on that. qemu-kvm.
Oliver Ortiz
they mainly had issues with uefi, you can run a qemu guest in kvm mode enabling uefi virtualization, so I guess that counts
Isaiah Myers
cloveros is just a riced gentoo, crux can become the thread meme if we beat the challenge.
Adrian Cox
install crux does sound way cooler.
Colton Allen
>Linux users are aimless, edgy, underage vandals who damage property just to rant about 'muh system' and 'muh fuck ms' faggottry Imagine my shock
You'll grow out of the Linux bullshit and edginess soon enough neckbeards
Hudson Edwards
who are you quoting?
Thomas Peterson
The pic in the OP, I've also seen Linux grafitti plenty of times IRL.
Thomas Morales
kmandla used crux for a while
Elijah Clark
i used arch for awhile, that doesn't make it good.
t. satoshi
Luis Hill
install OpenBSD
Dylan Moore
no
Ethan Peterson
is it wrong that I know hiragana and katakana?
Jordan Ramirez
Sure. I would think that kmandla's blog 'ud be sacred writ here though.
Zachary Reyes
Well you're a brainlet if you don't know the rest of the language with it
Ethan Jones
Should Devuan be removed too?
In the last few threads a guy pointed out that Devuan is not that good and minimal. The main points are: > it does package splitting, but it fails at doing meta-packages right > apt often pulls unnecessary stuff as dependencies > netinst is bloated and brings too much stuff in your system Here's the original post I personally don't agree that much with his reasons, but that's mostly just because I never used debian or a debian-based distro and I don't have enough examples to understand his reasons (unnecessary dependencies, like what? why do you even want to add an entirely meta-package in a minimal system?). Anyways, I'd like to discuss about it to see if it's worth keeping it in our /glmg/-approved distro. I have expressed some reasons to keep it in this post . The main point is that we need at least an user-friendly minimal distro to make people doing a first big step towards /minimalism/. Every distro in op's list (except for devuan and maybe void) fails this requirement so, if we choose to remove devuan, we should find another baby-first minimalist distro. Something that is not only easy to install, but easy to maintain: good documentation, a lot of packages, good hardware support and everything you might need on your daily basis.
Daily reminders: >the main goal is to use your system, not to be as minimal as possible >you don't have to force yourself in by making your /bloated/ software /glmg/ approved; we are *discussing* minimal GNU/Linux software, it's okay if your system is not strictly minimal >the number of packages you have installed in your system has nothing to do with minimalism and it depends on your distro
Tyler Bell
I'm the user with troubles for booting Crux. Yes, UEFI counts so much!
Julian Foster
Here you go. Approved?
Jordan Cox
The previous was deleted.
Samuel Torres
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
WHAT THE HELL I DOING WRONG?
Charles Baker
>trash How so? Because you can't figure out how to install it? The handbook and wiki explain everything. It is honestly not hard at all. It's nice to see a non-brainlet in one of these threads.
Cooper Perry
:(
Colton Adams
Threadly reminder decimal kilobytes and bibibytes instead of proper binary kilobytes are bloat
Oliver Kelly
Dont remove devuan, it has gone strong as the main replacement of debian and all the bloat it represents. Like another user said, is the best entry level minimal distro.
William Nguyen
Don't feel too bad. I screwed up a few times too. Forgot to install efibootmgr and elfutils. I also restarted once when I noticed the default was to use BIOS mode, so I restarted to follow the UEFI-rule.
From memory. Boot in UEFI mode. Partition for one EFI partition, and one root partition. format with mkfs.vfat amd mkfs.ext4. Mount to /mnt and /mnt/boot/efi.
Run setup and select grub2-efi, efibootmgr, and elfutils from opt (only select core, and say yes when you're asked if you want to select individual packages). remember to deselect lilo from core, but no biggie if you forget (can run prt-get remove lilo once chrooted).
If you want to download a new kernel, run dhcpcd your-nic, and copy the resolv.conf file from /etc to /mnt/etc. Run setup-chroot and compile your kernel with your required stuff (crux nu/Wiki/UEFI)(remember most things you require should be built into the kernel (*, not M)). make && make modules_install && make install. copy /boot/vmlinuz to /boot/vmlinuz-current.
Edit /etc/fstab to match your mount points, uncomment the lines above the bottom usb fs thing. run grub-install /boot/efi (ignore the guy that tells you to run it against something in /dev, he might be right, but you don't need to listen to him). grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg.
Reboot. That should work, if I remembered everything correctly.
Thanks. People in other threads usually call me a brainlet or ask me to stop posting.
Jaxson Taylor
Thank you fucking very much, my dude. I'll try one more time
Adrian Johnson
I would like to remind everyone to enable "PKGMK_IGNORE_NEW" in pkgmk.conf and "runscripts" in prt-get.conf They're nice to have since you won't get interrupted by footprint mismatches due to new files (usually not a bad thing), and prt-get will run the pre-/post-install scripts for you (they're usually safe to run repeatedly, they're usually used to rebuild caches and add system users when you install certain software).
I also recommend that people enable the contrib repository, and install prt-utils from opt. prt-utils comes with rejmerge that helps you merge config files after an update, and revdep that helps you find broken packages (jdk and texlive is always a false positive).
Christopher Hughes
>is the best entry level minimal distro. this. Devuan's staying.
Thomas Young
Approved!
Ian Ross
Property shouldn't exist and deserves to be destroyed
Oliver Flores
Thanks again!
Connor Jackson
routers and wifi networks are bloat. All you need is one modem and one ethernet connection
Oliver Torres
Install V7/x86
Cooper Cox
This is a general for discussing minimal software for GNU/Linux and for helping you debloat your GNU/Linux system.
>Software minimalist standards - Using a TUI when necessary - Only using a window manager - Using the terminal as a file manager - Package count must be under 900 (unless you use production software such as gimp or kdenlive etc etc, it's okay)
Acceptable GNU/Linux distributions that aren't bloat
>Run setup and select grub2-efi, efibootmgr, and elfutils from opt (only select core, and say yes when you're asked if you want to select individual packages)
Why only core? And xorg, opt?
Logan Ramirez
>and /mnt/boot/efi
I can't do this. Mount point does not exist. How you do that?
Eli Foster
Literally make the directory?
Charles Mitchell
You generally don't need all of opt and xorg. Those repositories contain a lot of different things. The bits you need is pulled in as dependencies for other applications. A fully functional setup with with Xorg only need parts of the xorg repository, and a handful of ports from opt. The only repository you should install everything from is core, since many packages will depend on applications and libraries from core, without listing anything from core as a dependency. e.g. not everything that depends on glib or ncurses will list those as dependencies, since they are in core.
Just mkdir it.
Adam Campbell
Crux xbacklight: not working trackpad, mouse point: not working power management: not working
Kew distro dood
Camden Ortiz
>mkdir /mnt/boot/efi >mkdir /dev/sdb2 or sdb1/boot/efi
Doesn't work. No such file or directory.
Jaxson Jackson
If you don't know how to make a directory just stop. Try something like Slackware for a while.
Carter Harris
Does anyone here have experience running a minimalist distro on Raspberry Pi? And if so, any suggestions? I'm trying to get my base system under 64 megs. Raspbian is way too bloated for an embedded device
Blake Green
>mkdir /mnt/boot/efi >mkdir /dev/sdb2 or sdb1/boot/efi
>>mkdir /mnt/boot/efi >>mkdir /dev/sdb2 or sdb1/mnt/boot/efi
Doesn't work. No such file or directory.
Noah Gutierrez
Alpine standard vs "virtual"?
Joshua Sanchez
Then you messed up somewhere along the installation. Try again
Nathaniel Hall
A distro with Xserver?
Ew.
Just run freebsd on a small pi and go full console
Leo Robinson
has anyone tried the alacritty terminal emulator? it's awesome having a GPU accelerated terminal (not to mention I found it insanely fast), but it uses like 40 MB of RAM per instance. It brings my idle system from about 260 MB to 301 MB while urxvt uses way less (like 10 MB per instance on my machine) I am considering going back to urxvt from alacritty-scrollback. and no. won't switch to suckless software. how do i reduce it's memory footprint? or i just should switch back?
Aaron Torres
mkdir -p /mnt/boot/efi >mkdir /dev/sdb2 WHAT THE FUCK!
Matthew Bell
When you configured the kernel did you choose the right drivers? I don't know what you're doing so I'm just going to start from the top. Did you >create and format the partitions (fdisk and mkfs) >mount that partition at /mt >setup >during install check efibootmgr and grub2-efi from opt >setup the chroot environment Did you at least get to this stage?
Leo Cruz
Just switch back, and use the daemon/client system to reduce the ram usage even more. If you do that, it becomes even lighter than St.
Grayson Watson
No no, definitely no xserver. Freebsd is not an option as it's still missing some drivers for the RPi which I really don't feel like bothering to try to port over from linux.
I'm trying alpine now but it's got some issues with the kernel and I can't seem to get the ISO build script to work. So I just have to build it myself and modify the initramfs manually I guess.
Justin Thompson
/mt should be /mnt. Also, what hardware are installing to? Are you dualbooting?
Chase Richardson
>mkdir /dev/sdb2 >sdb1/boot/efi *giggles* user you're so silly!
Easton Morgan
Works on my X220. Check your kernel config.
Nah. user just forgot to add the -p option to mkdir.
Chase Scott
>jag läser din e- Can't make it out.
Nathan Torres
Standard
Nathan Rogers
some packages will also install libsystemd. i thought that packages on a distro that is supposed to be systemd free would be compiled with those things disabled.
Charles Perez
Mail. Of course. So obvious.
Caleb Murphy
Remember, the developers behind systemd have demanded to be included as a mandatory dependency on many packages, I believe GONE was one? Certainly I recall they tried with tmux, not sure if they succeeded.
Isaac Lewis
Yeah sadly it's pretty unavoidable in a lot of cases. and I definitely remember that tmux thing. afaik they said no.
Jaxson Allen
and on top of that, when merging some vital component into it, Poettering once said "Gentoo folks, this is your wake-up call." fuck systemd
Adam Hernandez
i did not find that but i found another reason to avoid systemd instead
Nolan Evans
Well, I did. Now it dropped to well below 260 with idle terminal only.
Camden White
Wait does tmux really require systemd now?
Jace White
>"Gentoo folks, this is your wake-up call."
Ryder Gonzalez
>check the CRUX handbook >says $ fdisk /dev/sd? >blank instructions only recognized by veterans Oh, so this is why our buddies cant into CRUX, they hit a noob filter.
Nolan Jones
No. Poettering asked them to do it, but afaik they said no.
So, it looks like your method is the correct one. Did not display that previous panic kernel. I'm just going to fix this problem with nouveau (my card is a GTX 1080) and I wanted to use nouveau for now, but I think I'll have to disable it in the kernel.
I'll be back!
John Watson
I'm booting gentoo with the handbook in hand, currently I am in "Updating the @world set" with the command emerge --ask --update --deep --newuse @world then it ask me if I want to merge and I write yes and it goes along fine but suddenly a non stopping wall of text starts to appear, kinda look like a bash script and a lot of directories, is this shit normal and long? been like this for an hour and Im getting impacient
Leo Gonzalez
I LOVE YOU, user! I FUCKING LOVE YOU, BASED!
GOD BLESS YOUR SOUL!
Benjamin Johnson
Officially installed? Nice! Now we have 2 confirmed.
Logan James
Yes! Fucking finally!
Thank you all for not giving up on me and for giving me the incentive to try again and again.
Seriously, thank you all from the bottom of my heart!
Owen Roberts
What is your opinion of X11, /glmg/? Also official language of his general switched to nip when
Alexander Wright
X11 > Waylel Blame freedesktop.org for the mistakes on X.
Easton Martin
Anyone know how to get Firefox audio to work with ALSA?? Videos no longer have audio.
Oliver King
Apparently Firefox was about to make pulseaudio a hard dependency. I jumped out that ship before having more problems and I advice other people do. Maybe not the answer you like but is the truth.
Robert Reyes
Wayland is better overall, particularly from a security standpoint, but still not fully practical yet. It's getting there though, and Sway looks very nice.
Isaiah Martin
Firefox now hard depends on PulseAudio. Thankfully Palemoon doesn't, and neither does any Blink-based or Webkit-based browser.
Jack Smith
prt-get sysup and now I go to sleep. Good evening my fiends!
Luis Walker
except it's not minimal at all, installer included. How is void not user friendly? You literally have to run the install script and you are done, it can get as user friendly or as advanced as you want it to be. If people have issues with that they do not belong in the thread imo.
Andrew Moore
Have you checked out the pastebins in the OP?
Hudson Price
Wayland > X11, but we still need few more years to switch. Since KDE and Gnome are already switching a huge step towards its direction is already done.
Benjamin Scott
>and I wanted to use nouveau for now Probably best to disable that and go straight for the efi framebuffer driver and the proprietary nvidia driver. Since your graphics card is so new.
Hunter Turner
What do I win? Took 2~ hours.
Logan Martinez
>What do I win? Took 2~ hours. user. I'm so sorry~
>No Virtualbox.
I'm sorry senpai.
Connor Peterson
One more for the CRUX challenge!
Bentley Jackson
Don't say I didn't warn you. THE MEMES MUST LIVE ON
Nolan Morgan
yes and its faster if you add --quiet to the command. if not then it will be only as fast as that shit can be rendered to the screen.
Austin Long
i dont think that its a hard dependency but you need to compile it yourself to enable support for alsa.
Lincoln Morgan
It displays progress if you set up your jobs. You should if you have the cores. # Parallel builds EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--jobs=17 --load-average=16" /etc/portage/make.conf lines 1-51/51 (END)
