so zen 2 1600 performance leaks are out. 15% increase single thread 30% increase multithread its sad that i had to post this, theyve been out for a few days. take some time off shitposting about useless linux e celebs and talk about something actually relevent to technology
cuz thats what this board is for. Sup Forums - technology not Sup Forums - linux e celebs and linux shitposting memes
Jaxson Thompson
That's Zen+
Christopher Morris
ignore the intel shill
Grayson Rivera
Zen 2 is coming out next year Zen + is now and is a moderate upgrade + problem fixing of Zen with optimizations.
Christian Green
this board is dogshit an actual thread about technology and all you can do i bitch about dumb pendantic shit
Adam Martin
It can still be a perfectly nice thread, user! :-)
Brody Stewart
looks good but i want to see gaymer benchmarks with it and that was ryzens main achilles heel and the reason i held off....
Luis Gonzalez
>15% increase single thread
Jason Russell
>the numbers are bigger: Discuss.
Not interested until there is pricing and some overclocking info
Eli Mitchell
I only got AMD because the mobos were cheaper. Until AMD gets their single core perf to competitive with intel, I probably won't consider them for my next build. AMD's pricing is always on point though.
Aiden Perez
>Until AMD gets their single core perf to competitive with intel Its been for like a year
Cameron Thomas
Not really they have yet to be better than my seriously overclocked 2500k.
Lucas Cruz
Intel can barely do that
Jace Adams
If they can get single thread up I'm all over it. For now the 7700k @ 5ghz is great for my photo editing box.
Wouod like to learn premier soon tho.
Julian Sanchez
Newest i7 is about 25% faster than it that's an improvement AMD is barely approaching those speeds.
Blake Clark
Oh I'm sorry I didn't realize you were retarded
Sebastian Johnson
Nice ad hominem.
David King
I'd rather talk about Linux. This is boring, oh wow another chip. Nice
Adam Lewis
>Newest i7 is about 25% faster maybe without adjusted clocks lol
Ryder Bell
Yeah you have to delidd the damn things but it does perform better even without the delidd. Meanwhile AMD has yet to catch up to a 7 year old processor.
Jeremiah Hughes
A man with class, can we please kill this thread?
Evan Perry
With that slow as fuck RAM, only 4 threads, half the multithreaded performance of a modern 6 core, and PCIE 2.0 you aren't even in the same league as modern processors.
That single thread score is purely synthetic and not representative of the real life user experience. I upgraded from a 2500k @ 4.6Ghz and would never go back
Evan Stewart
>upgrade to kabylake from sb >fps goes up 10% on a 1080 and 1440p monitor >wtf did I even upgrade
Kevin Howard
Decided to run this on my shitbox. Neat.
Isaac Morales
Correct but these synthetic benchmarks are used to see how good the processor is and AMD still cant beat it. Yeah the the multithread is better but what applications even make use of that many threads? My pc is mainly used for gaming so those extra cores and threads go unused. Pcie 3.0 has an almost negligible effect on performance. The only argument you have is that SB supports very limited amount of ram speeds but again Gains from ram are almost negligible as well especially at the current prices.
Austin Collins
You're doing it wrong, you're supposed to use a 720p monitor
Samuel Walker
t. GT 730 user
Noah Barnes
>lol, it's not about operation systems lunix, it's about consumerism xD
Isaiah Campbell
my ryzen 1700x is faster single core though???
Aaron Young
>muh single thread The year is not 2008. It's 2018. Even low end CPUs have 8 threads and every game released today likes threads.
1600x DDR4-2400 is a much better experience in games than my old [email protected] DDR3-1333. 2500k might achieve a similar average framerate, but there is so much more hitching and inconsistent frame times, the difference is like night and day.
Ryan Nelson
Nice what oc is on it? Ive been waiting for people to show me what their ryzen cpus can do. Did you mess with the ram timings at all?
Landon Robinson
I expect less than 10%. Maybe 5%. In benchmarks that are not Geekbench.
Anthony Collins
all core overclock @ 3.8 GHz, im on a B350 board so the vrms suck and i'm scared to go higher. The memory timings are 14-16-16-38 something @ 2667
Aaron Collins
I would have to agree to that I personally dont play many demanding games but I wsh for my eventual cpu upgrade to you know feel like an upgrade I want to see some actual gains Multicore AMD hits it out of the park but unfortunately many games are still reliant on single threaded performance not all games are like wolfenstein 2 where it does wonderful with amd chips.
Nolan Gonzalez
A gtx1080ti or vega64 can't even max out PCI-E1.0
Samuel Lee
Ran it without a bunch of crap in the background this actually has me semi looking forward to 2700 version of that chip.
Levi Butler
having 16 threads is great, compiling is really fast and encoding in handbrake is pretty great too. I might wait until Ryzen 2 comes out to upgrade though
Luis Sanchez
New APUs when? I want Zen2+Vega+HBM+dual channel laptop APUs that can drive 4k without a dGPU.
Isaiah Lee
Maybe in a year or two
Owen Cooper
>getting new mobos the year before PCIe4 >getting new mobos two years before GenZ
Lincoln Adams
probably 6 months after Zen2
Hunter Russell
So 18 months from now?
Aiden Cruz
We had this thread yesterday. And it's not Zen 2. Fucking idiot.
Cameron Cox
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Justin Garcia
Horrible result. Not even able to beat my 2+ years old 6700k per core and barely beats multicore due to having 2 more. Threadripper is nice for super parallel tasks but for anything else amd is still useless.
Nathaniel Stewart
I'm more interested in seeing how well it will overclock when compared to the older zens.
Evan Cox
>geekbench
Caleb Gray
this, and all settings on low. enjoy your 300 fps.
David Brown
This
A worthless microbench that has perfect cache hits. It's basically a big cache and HW acceleration test. In benchs that simulate real workloads like cinebench Ryzen will even beat out Haswell in IPC
Justin Powell
>64GB Ram Urine idiot
Julian Foster
pedantic*
Eli Foster
Yes your shitbox is a stuttering mess. And why get 64gb ram for a system that chokes on multitasking anyway?
Camden Baker
>geekbench sage
Tyler Torres
>brainlet doesn't even do real work on his computer >muh gaymes!
Justin Reyes
I don't get it
Doesn't make you less retarded
>Up to 30% decrease from Intel on all chips >15% sc and 30% mc increase from AMD
Jeremiah Robinson
>30% decrease from Intel on all chips
Nathaniel Murphy
>Missed the up to >Implying old as fuck c2ds are still usable
Camden Russell
>can't show any performance impacts that aren't low single digits at worst
Jackson Howard
*Notices drop* OwO what's this?
Grayson Campbell
You're hallucinating
Anthony Flores
Isn't that 12nm Zen+, not Zen2?
Zachary Adams
So basically 1600 with a 500mhz overclock? I'm pretty sure you can have similar gains (~10%) just by overclocking a 1600 to 4.0/4.1ghz.
Nicholas Robinson
>thinks that represents a noticeable performance drop
Thomas Reyes
Single threaded gains*
Robert Scott
call me when we're seeing 60 to 450 point drops on particular workloads. those numbers are margin of error tier
Carson Kelly
AMD should learn to control its bladder
William Campbell
>130MB/s drop >Margin of error tier Lmao
Easton Reyes
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Ethan Edwards
MB/s drop >cheery picked, very particular synthetic test >game over jewtel!
Oliver Lopez
>1/4 >Cherry picking >This drop in performance does not matter goy! Buy our chips at full price they're fine
Christopher White
lol weeb benchmarking the absolute state of neo/g/
Jeremiah Gutierrez
First, zen+, secondly, the margin of error of difference to the intel chips, combined with the igpu that intel will take 350 years to reach kinda makes this chip a great deal for cheap computers, specially given the miner crap.
Owen Butler
What are you even talking about
Julian Robinson
/4
Nicholas Allen
FINALLY I CAN UPGRADE MY 4770 YEEEEEEEEE
Nathaniel White
>work >4c Pick one
Isaac Cruz
How are your scores so low compared to mine?
Single-core should be 1:1 since both are 4.5ghz and 3200mhz ram.
Nolan Lewis
I'm saving for a zen2 epyc or Threadripper build
Joshua Brown
geekbench is fucking awful and anyone who uses it to compare performance between cpus is retarded.
Ian King
uhh link please ? if that's true then this is great
Cameron Wood
>that perfect MT scaling
Did they finally fix the SMT bottleneck?
Robert Williams
It's shit, especially the aggregate scores, but you can learn a few things from the individual scores (llvm, fp and int and memory scores)
Rest are all hardware accelerated jokes to pad Apple's performance or cache happy microbenchmarks.
Nathaniel Carter
>this thread is shit >i need more gays in programming stockings
ok
Austin Hughes
what bottleneck? SMT scales wonderfully on Ryzen since it helps hide the awful memory/inter-CCX latencies.
Brayden Carter
hmm
Joshua Morris
>1333mhz
Kayden James
>Depressed AMD fan posts anemic thread about lackluster refresh and gets angry that everyone isn't talking about it.
Seriously there isn't anything to talk about. If you have Intel its a downgrade.
Andrew Mitchell
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Anthony Miller
I find it amusing that most of the AMD posters are posting reason and evidence, some of the intel posters are too. But then all of the memes and image macros are being posted by intel fanboys - maybe they're actually shills. Is definitely a shill.
Jonathan Diaz
Ah, the tripshit court jester with an opinion, how cute.
Jose Moore
> costs over twice much > only 25% faster in the best case scenario after delidding