industrial, post punk, gothic rock, dark shoegaze, and related genres.
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Easton Wood
>My Dad Is Dead
Oh man, I listened to this guy religiously like 4-5 years ago. Some of the most miserable rock music ever recorded.
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Any recommendations as far as modern deathrock/goth-punk goes? I like these.
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Jacob Brown
>dad is dead core
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Parker Gomez
I feel like kids these days aren't /dark/. Back when I was edgy and dressed in black, I listened to goth rock and industrial and such, but does that even exist anymore to young kids?
Aiden Myers
In little pockets here and there. Thing is pretty much everybody who was edgy and dressed in black last time it was really a thing forgot to pass the torch to younger kids as they got old. Underground scenes in the midwest are starting to become a thing again in the last three or four years though, so expect more of them soon. I give it til about 2020 when the high school kids with moms and big brothers in bands/scenes get old enough to go to bars.
Jaxon Ortiz
It's just kind of a bummer. I've seen Front 242 and Skinny Puppy in the last couple years and I was pretty much the youngest person there and I'm in my mid-20's.
Ethan Miller
It'll get better as long as kids like you do your part to keep things going. Not like there's a goth MTV playing in every school cafeteria. Things are very word-of-mouth.
Jackson Scott
There were some cybergoff and neongoff, but no one /dark/. I'm in my mid-20s too.
Mason Kelly
Yeah. Surprisingly, there was a ton of young kids at the My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult show I went to last year.
John Thomas
>but does that even exist anymore to young kids?
There's been a major resurgence in interest when it comes to goth and industrial and shit during the past several years, both the classic bands and newer artists(see: Iceage, Cold Cave, Chelsea Wolfe, Puce Mary etc.). I'd say there's more "kids" into it now than ever before, it's just that with the dawn of the Internet there's also a lot of room for crossover and more expansive tastes, so now the people who would once only be listening to post-punk and industrial are also into black metal and techno and noise music and whatever.
I guess the "purity" of subcultural divides is gone, but the interest is still alive and well.
Ayden Cooper
My local scene has a huge black metal crossover. Which beats the hell out of the raver douches who played "goth night" around here in the late 90s-early 00s. The local bands are much better for it too. Used to be "show off my toy keyboard" bands all day, now there's some good guitaring and crazy song structures in the local underground, and everybody dresses waaaay better.
Isaiah Long
That sounds sick. Got any bands you'd recommend I check out?
Carter King
Also some pretty well-known early noise kids from my town grew up and went dark/coldwave recently, which further diversifies things.
David Fisher
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Levi Moore
Local or (inter)national?
Jack Sullivan
>dark/coldwave
Yeah, that sounds seems to have found a new audience as well in recent years.
Some solid young bands have been coming out of it too, not all of them necessarily working in the context of those genre.
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Liam Foster
Local.
Leo Miller
Anyway, these are local bands, so don't expect crazy iconicness, but they're good to go out for for a $5 show every couple of months:
thetrueguignol.bandcamp.com
Aside from the lead singer, everybody in this band is a multi-instrumentalist in an active black metal band. They try to pull it back for this project, but it comes out as minor chords against key signature, and the general cold cvltness of the production, which carries over live.
atrocityandthecomplications.bandcamp.com
These guys are all minor league punk/grindcore veterans. The music's pretty straight-forward dance goth/death rock most of the time, but there's a growl here and there, and the guitar work has some deep palm mutes and occasionally simple sweep and trem picking in the leads.
Noah Richardson
just came here to say that this is the best general i've ever seen
keep it up lads, love you all
Xavier Clark
Cheers.
Jaxson Thomas
how do i into /dark/
i've been listening to a lot of droney shit/shoegaze like belong and grouper does that fall under this?
Asher Moore
Similar textures deeper into the genre:
early stuff, you could probably get into Joy Division and Bauhaus without feeling too far out of home, and later stuff try Light Asylum and Lebanon Hanover. Get used to a lot more synths and drums.
Earlier coldwave like Norma Loy, Martin duPont, Oper de Nuit you might like if you want something to dance to.
Brotherhood of Pagans has pretty atmospheric and heavily modulated guitars, but is very rock.
Nicholas Fisher
yeah i dig joy division and some other post punk like that, just don't know too much of it right now. i'll check out those other bands thanks
Ian Adams
I gave you a pretty diverse range of stuff. Some of it doesn't sound remotely like the other, but all should have elements that appeal to you. This is entry level music too. If you can get into it, dig deeper by all means.
Lincoln Mitchell
What does /dark/ think of the 2nd annual report?
Caleb Gonzalez
bumphaus
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Gavin Rogers
Daniel Ash is an underappreciated guitarist.
Michael Sullivan
In the suburban Midwest where I live the only darkish stuff kids or anyone else I know of for that matter listen to is generic metal, slipknot or stuff like my chemical romance and pierce the veil. It's too bad really.
Jayden Sanchez
Anybody else DJ a monthly/whenever night? Gear? Battle plans?
Jason Reed
Cool if you don't wanna get specific, but think about where the nearest city of over say 50k people is. If there's nothing going on there, it'll be ripe for starting something.
Gabriel Smith
This band was based out of Omaha until a couple of years ago:
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Jonathan Rivera
I live in a town with about 20k people with absolutely nothing, it's about 20 miles away from the city metro though.
There are cool people and I'm sure I'm just introverted and lame but it's just depressing sometimes. (Violent Femmes came from around here)
Sebastian Baker
Just generally speaking, west of the Mississippi?
Liam Ortiz
nm I fail at reading comprehension. Trying to find you something to do. I keep on top of what's going on everywhere as best I can.
Xavier Collins
See if anybody you've never heard of is playing at Club Anything any time soon and give them a chance.
Daniel Powell
Skeleton Hands is coming to that general area toward the end of June. Great show, saw them a few weeks ago.
Jaxon White
goth is a meme now, girls think painting their nails black and wearing a pink sweater while listening to drake is goth.
anyway, my contributions:
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Benjamin Wood
That's kind of the best possible opening to a wedge strategy to get wider audiences though. You solicit to a group of 20 of those girls and three of them will show up to a show the following weekend.
Noah Carter
Just a hint of thrash
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Hunter Torres
links to these bands?
also, baka for thinking guitars > synthesizers
Hudson Ramirez
The queen of goth:
Gavin Anderson
Real synth is a big help though. The death of that old scene in my town was an instrumental band that literally played guitars along to preset halloween music demos on a toy keyboard. No vocals, no part-writing, they'd just play the same thing the keyboard was playing along with it.
The shit that evolved into that wasn't much better. The virtues of what we have now around here are mostly there are actual musicians actually writing music.
Jason Wilson
do you ever book bands?
Evan Johnson
Yeah, it's my main job actually.
Liam Young
To elaborate, I'll put a three-band showcase together every couple of months of all regional acts, then take any touring band that comes my way and put something together for them.
My city is a relatively large mid-sized, so there's a second group I work with off again on again that does 2 DJ sets a night once a month, one band in between at least every other one of those, and I usually end up in charge of finding the band for that too.
Alexander Wood
The Scream is the best Banshees album.
Kayden Cruz
link to a fb or something? might hit you up sometime
Jonathan Thomas
The Rapture doesn't get nearly enough love though.
Jason Brown
Point me at your band. We'll be in touch when I'm free up. Would rather not be a swollen lantern of prey on this shithole message board.
Joseph Miller
rather not, same reason. but i tour the usa every once in a while and have never been trough KY. any info on that flyer i can google?
Elijah Adams
There are pretty good scenes in Louisville and Lexington. I obviously work in Lexington. Google "lexington goth scene" and you'll find some way to get a hold of me. I make it pretty easy.
John Taylor
>Lexington
You into Clay Rendering? The two members of that band used to live there and were involved in all sorts of crazy noise shit.
Pretty /dark/ stuff.
Benjamin Baker
I went to college with them. Mikey was in a pretty big noise band called Hair Police. They toured with Sonic Youth. I booked CR down here a year or two ago.
Brayden Young
Gotta say though, I actually would love to hear generic goth guitar to Halloween music presets on a Casio.
Levi Thomas
Oh it was terrible.
Aaron Nguyen
seconded
Wyatt Martinez
That's fucking nuts. I'm a huge fan of Connelly's work, in Hair Police as well as a lot of the other projects he's been involved with. The record label he used to run was great as well.
You seen Hair Police live much?
Caleb Sanchez
I was in a punk band not worth mentioning that opened for them in 2002. I had them play my basement all the time back then. Once opening for Hudson Falcons believe it or not lol. An early Hair Police pit was a scary thing. There's footage from my basement on one of their DVDs where I'm rolling around covered in blood. I had just slammed my gf into a support column.
Aiden James
I should also mention, the Clay Rendering set down here was just great, such a great energy night, brought in a lot of people I don't usually see at our nights. Can't wait til they come back down.
Juan Bailey
any links for croatian armor? nothing on soulseek or what...
Chase Williams
Gyorgy Ligeti (1923-2006)
String Quartet No. 1 youtube.com
Henryk Gorecki (1933-2010)
String Quartet No. 2 Quasi una Fantasia
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Per Norgard (b.1932)
Quartetto Breve
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Thomas Ades
Arcadiana Op 12,
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(Also includes Beethoven's Grosse Fuge Op133 which is great too)
Chase Hughes
wrong thread or hardcore tryhard?
Anthony Gutierrez
That's cool as hell.
>An early Hair Police pit was a scary thing.
I can imagine, Blow Out Your Blood was an insane album.
Alexander Jones
Nah man, nothing wrong with that guy. Some Hildegaard would be in order out of him though instead of this new pop stuff.
Elijah Collins
It's "Amor", not "Armor".
Kayden Allen
I bought it the instant it came out, memorized it (there are lyrics, but they never played a live set the same way twice in that era), and would scream them back and Mikey and Trevor through a megaphone when we were just hanging out. You wouldn't believe how protective they actually are about their hearing. Their reactions were always hilarious.
Jeremiah Moore
My favorite is "WINNING THE CON-TEEEEST MEANSSSSS BEING THE BESSSSTAH"
Robert Moore
They did do something vaguely recognizable as Vocalist Dan Marino in my basement once and I flipped my shit.
Dominic Martin
Hey, thanks user I appreciate it
(I had no idea either of those things even existed I'm totally clueless about everything, I barely ever leave my town but I definitely should)
Camden Phillips
Man, I'm envious as fuck.
You ever hang out with any of the other noise dudes who had close ties to Hair Police, like C. Spencer Yeh or Dom Fernow or the Wolf Eyes crew?
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derp
Thomas Butler
Wolf Eyes played Lexington with HP at least once. Didn't really get to hang out with them, but they seemed like really cool guys. Mikey gave me one of their CDs leading up to that show, can't remember which one. This would've been 03ish.
The WE live set involved what appeared to be a mosquito trapped in a pringles can with a contact mic.
Thomas Cruz
>This would've been 03ish.
I reckon Dead Hills would have been the most recent "major" Wolfs release at the time(meaning a proper CD/LP and not one of their countless tapes or CD-Rs). Was that it?
Really heavy shit, one of my favorites of theirs.
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>The WE live set involved what appeared to be a mosquito trapped in a pringles can with a contact mic.
Hah, I think I remember reading some interview with them where they were talking about this. Very imaginative dudes.
Isaiah Fisher
Yeah that's the one, recognize the cover.
That thing made the weirdest fucking sound. Everybody in the crowd was like "Hold it up like this! Yeah! Now bring it down!"
Carson Jenkins
I started making /dark/ stuff because I got bored with indie.
Hudson Robinson
And yeah, if you ever get a chance to talk with Mikey and Tara, ask them about the band Big White Pickup. They'll corroborate a lot of my stories.
Joseph Morris
All of this pussy /dark/ in here, who fucks with Samhain?
Grayson Williams
Right on dude, I really enjoyed this chat.
My favorite Danzig band. I've got every second of November Coming Fire and Unholy Passion burned into my brain forever.
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Always thought it was a real shame that they didn't do at least one more album with that deathrock sound before moving into full-on metal territory.
Christopher Price
Touring Europe right now and the US late this summer/early fall.
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Joseph Parker
Also I'm sure you're aware, but Robert from HP has become a pretty prolific album art designer. He's still in town and we run in the same circles, but don't really get to talk much.
Cameron Flores
November Coming Fire, is amazing.
Nothing else sounds like it.
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Final Descent has a few great tracks, but they are all from around 86, like you said, before they went full metal.
Parker Foster
Wrong version of Lords
Jaxon Ortiz
Yeah, Beatty's work as a visual artist is great. He's done some of my favorite album covers.
The old-school electronic shit he's doing as Three Legged Race is pretty cool as well.
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I had no idea he was still living in Lexington.
Asher Cook
>You will never be part of the closeknit no wave scene back in the 70s/80s and become buddies with Arto Lindsay and Glenn Branca
Justin Cooper
Yeah TLR and Idiot Glee play here damn near weekly when they're not off in Nashville or wherever being grownups.
Jacob Barnes
>I will always be part of a small-town version of it and enjoy where I am in life.
Kayden Foster
real queen of Goth.
early 80's
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Dominic Edwards
>the real queen of death rock
But yeah.
>saw 45 Grave in this toilet across the river from Cincinnati
>like 30 people showed up
>first opening act was ok
>second opening act was offensively terrible
>Dinah and 3 touring musicians
>wear my limited edition full color T
>go out back after set
>shit band is hanging out there
>"hey dude, this headliner is pretty big you know, they were on the rotld soundtrack. You like the cure?"
>"i fucking know, idiot, fuck off."
>kid playing bass for 45 grave comes out
>signs my shirt
>"Dinah's still inside if you wanna talk to her"
>"fuck yeah I do"
>Dinah's talking to some fat bitch about fat bitch's friend who has cancer or something
>for like 20 minutes
>finally
>"Will you sign my shit?" I sperg out
>"Will. I. Sign. your. Shit? Yeah that's what I'm here for. This is a really rare shirt. They broke the screens after they were done."
>"awesome"
>all of us, Dinah included, immediately thrown out of the bar, last call
Anthony Miller
>Nothing else sounds like it.
They really did stumble upon an incomparable sound, yeah.
Man, all this talk of Hair Police has got me itching to give some of those old tapes more spins.
Do you have any idea what the status of the band is? They all seem to be pretty busy with other shit these days.
Kevin Johnson
Yes.
Justin Smith
Hair Police? I don't think there's any chance of them doing anything any time soon as far as I know. The rest of the band is all still hanging around Lexington most of the time, but with Mikey in Michigan and all of them so busy, I wouldn't hold my breath.
Hudson Roberts
Also
>Rikk Agnew was supposed to play guitar on that tour, but got sick
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
Anthony Hughes
>Rikk Agnew was supposed to play guitar on that tour, but got sick
That really is the worst thing.
Parker Russell
That's unfortunate but I figured as much.
If it turns out that they're finished at least they went out on a high note. Mercurial Rites is a modern industrial masterpiece.
Jayden Ross
They left a hell of a legacy for what was supposed to be a little regional band too. They did what they needed to do and then some.
Camden Robinson
Also
>did get my shirt signed and managed to get a picture with her
>i look like wasted ass and my fingers are digging holes into her arm
>i invented reverse hover-hand
Alexander Morales
It's good, we just need to make sure to gauge our profits regarding the fiscal year
Chase Robinson
>They did what they needed to do and then some.
Yeah no kidding, just all the attention and acclaim they got back in the mid-2000s was huge for a noise band, and then they spent almost 10 more years doing their thing.
Ryder Williams
>i look like wasted ass and my fingers are digging holes into her arm
>i invented reverse hover-hand
Too much man, too much.
Jordan Martinez
What is some good gothic hardcore punk (deathpunk i guess)? Something like Rudimentary Peni but even harsher.
Catholic Spit and Börn are fucking great