Where were you when you realized grime was the superior form of rap?
Where were you when you realized grime was the superior form of rap?
Jason Diaz
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William Russell
>Negro music
>Picture of a literal Cultural Marxist
Sup Forums was right
Luke King
>grime
>rap
It's garage mate
Ethan Wright
>It's garbage mate
Landon Johnson
truly epic
Jordan Hughes
Kek, no. Do you even understand how BPM works?
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>is garage
>Sup Forums-poster
Eli Evans
Rap
>But yo, guess who got shot in the dome-piece?
>Jerome s niece, on her way home from joes beaches club
>Plus little rob is selling drugs all the time
>Hanging out with young thugs that all carry 9's
>At night time there's more trife than ever
>What up with Cormega, did you see 'em, are y'all together?
>If so then hold the fort, now I represent to the fullest
>Say whats up to herb, ice and bullet
>I left a half a hundred in your commissary
>You was my nigga when push came to shove
>One what? One love.
Grime
>When it's shutdown
>That's not me and it's shutdown
>Ring ring pussy, it's shutdown
>Fashion week and it's shutdown
>Went to the show sitting in the front row
>In the black tracksuit and it's shutdown
>Touch the road and it's shutdown
>Boy Better Know when it's shutdown
Liam Howard
hahahahahaha.
How to spot a pleb:
Step 1) Mention Grime
Step 2) Wait for people to mention Skepta and Shutdown
Step 3) Laugh at the plebs.
At least use actual proper grime as an example, not the left over as all the grime heads gave up.
Something like this --
Yo If that girl know's where you stay thats poor
some whore banging on your door what for
pregnant? what're you talking about this for
fifteen, she's underage thats raw
and against law 5 years or more
and she wants a score and half of a draw
some kind of friend that you try and ignore
that whore got you pinned down to the floor
but its your own fault you said three magic words (i love you)
when thats the one for the birds
when you said that she forgot other boys
its over you better start buying the toys
there was no intention in front of your wife
that she knows this that she's ending your life
its a real shame you got hacked by the whores
its a real shame that kid probably aint yours
Cooper Martinez
Let's break it down one more time
rap
>critically acclaimed rapper
grime
>critically acclaimed grime musician
>"NO DAS NOT GRIME"
pic related, it's you
Blake Bailey
t.an early work that doesn't even resemble the current sound that is called 'grime'
>using it to argue for the quality of grime
Landon White
>>"NO DAS NOT GRIME"
Where did I say this? I simply stated you used the most shit example of grime out there as a poster boy for grime. There is a reason why Stormzy said "If grime is dead why am I here" - Grim has been dead for a very long time, it's the shit new-school making it famous.
>rap
>critically acclaimed rapper
>grime
>critically acclaimed grime musician
I don't even know what this means? Grime is all about flow, and style - not lyrical content since most idiots lie anyway so what's the point of trying to have hard lyrics (they are all hard anyway)
If you are going to use Skepta as an example you could at least use his 'good' grime, not his party tracks , ya'know?
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I guess it's too much to expect people on Sup Forums to understand what they are talking about.
Kevin Howard
>At least use actual proper grime as an example,
>>"NO DAS NOT GRIME"
>Where did I say this?
DERRRRRRR, DURRRRDERRRDURRDEERRR DURRRR R DADURRRR DADURRR DERRRRRRR
Jace Rogers
>dizzee rascal
>not respective of the grime genre
WuT
You think Stormzy and Skepta speak for grime? At least use good new-school artists as examples.
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Josiah Torres
Great argument. Truly a Sup Forumstant.
Jacob Jones
>grime is rap
FUCK OFF YANK
lyrical content is low down in importance in grime
>good new school artists
>yungen (ukhiphop and not really that new)
>jme and tempz (both old school)
literally what
Gavin Rivera
>lyrical content is low down in importance in grime
Elijah Nelson
grime mcs are mcs, not rappers
it's not about like lyrics or poetry or complex rhyme schemes or any of that stuff
they're just mcs, who's only job is to host a djs set
grime is meant to be experienced at club nights (not concerts) where the main draw are the grime djs, and mcs use their lyrics to add energy to the crowd, and to host radio shows
yes, some artists after the've got a lyric that popular enough from live/radio will release a track with the lyric, and others, over an instrumental to try and raise their profile
but still, grime is dance music and meant to be listened to in a club
u wouldn't say that jungle with an mc on it was rap? or that dancehall with an mc on it is rap?
oh and this is the only good thing skepta has ever done (it is incredible tho) youtube.com
listen to the energy on it
skepta's "go on then go on then bars" go off in a rave like nothing else
Joseph Gonzalez
Do I wanna spit a bar? Yes please
Do I wanna spit a bar? Yes please
When I'm on the mic I'm like an X6
When you're on the mic, you're like an X3
People think they can book one guy
From Boy Better Know and get the rest free
If I'm in a rave and I'm onstage
Promoters know I charge next P
Your CD is dead! Go get a day job instead!
Your CD is dead! Go get a day job instead!
Your CD is dead! Go get a day job instead!
Your CD is dead! Go get a day job instead!
Your CD is dead!
Go get a d-day job instead
Listen to Jme and Tempz
Go get a d-day job instead! (we told you)
Your CD is dead!
Go get a d-day job instead
Listen to Jme and Tempz
Go get a d-day job instead! (we told you)
You can't even chat to me (no)
You're not that guy on your team (sad)
I'm that guy in the scene (yep)
Come through with a bop and a lean (what?)
I make money on stage
Selling your CD's don't make P (splantz)
I'm just living my dream
I skank out when I make this P (left, right, up, down)
YO! Tempz and Jme (OK then)
On this ting blatantly (on this ting)
On TV you can see me (not them lot)
Dash your CD like a Frisbee (dash that blood)
YO! Jme and Tempa T (you can't par man)
Nobody wants your CD (buy my one)
Better buy mine from HMV (I done told you)
Don't let me see you hate on me (OK then)
Logan Richardson
>there are literally no good lyrical grime musicians compared to rappers
>"WE'RE SHIT AT IT SO IT DOESN'T MATTER STUPID AMERICANS"
British """education"""
Jordan Diaz
instrumental, flow, rhyming schemes and patterns are a lot more important
this wasn't me but see one of the rare posts i've seen on Sup Forums that actually understands what grime is and the origins
Isaiah Johnson
So it's basically like that random freestyling mc from a rave started going platinum
So it's basically fucking shit
Luis Cox
>being this new
JME and Tempa-T are new-school, are you retarded? Oldschool = artists like Roll Deep (Dizzee, Eski, Titch, Roachee, Lethal) you know, the ones who were doing things before youtube.
>Yungen
>hip/hop
>spitting on grime tunes beefing with Chip
>wuT
Anyone past ~2006 -> onwards are new. To me at least.
>>grime is rap
Literally the point of the thread. Rapping = rhyming and flow. That's what they do on grime, are you retarded? It's not hip-hop, it's still rap though and the superior form at that. Not even a 'yank'.
Michael Torres
Grime MCs are Yung Lean tier carried by the beats and their lyrics have a similar level of quality (i.e. fucking garbage)
Aiden Green
>black people in europe are so devoid of culture they just rip off black americans and rename rap to grime
well at least you have the same thing in common with white euros, in that you are both betas under the foot of american culture
Matthew Jones
You can't tell me your head was not bopping.
Nolan Cooper
because grime and rap shouldn't be compared
there's UKhiphop which is a complete separate scene
absolute new twat
oldschool= pirate radio era
JME and Tempz are both from the pirate radio era and both from before 2006 you idiot
bet you didn't know JME was MCing before skepta in the Meridian Crew days where skepta was the DJ/producer
that was back in 03-05
also grime's true format is a live set with a DJ mixing instrumentals
David Adams
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>no lyrical content
>youtube.com
>literally 7 minutes of spoken word poetry
Ryder Hughes
pretty much yeah lol
but i like dance music, which grime is a member of, along with jungle, techno, 2-step garage, etc
if ur not into dance music (especially uk dance music) there's no reason u'd like
like i love grime, but i hate pretty much all rap/hip-hop
Charles Harris
None of those artists are old school. You are saying JME and Tempa T are oldschool, they are old, they are not the oldschool though.
How new to grime are you? How mad are you that I know more about your scene and I don't even live in the UK.
>posting inferior sidewinder
Why am I not surprised?
Matthew Watson
you fucking idiot
JME and Tempa T are both from the same era as those artists you mentioned
both have been active from the very beginning (2003) as a part of meridian crew and slewdem respectively
Leo Flores
>It's garbage mate
Alexander Campbell
>JME and Tempa T are both from the same era as those artists you mentioned
Kek, no. They have been around for a long time, not from the start though.
Levi Young
KNOCK DOWN THE DOOR TO YOUR FLAT
Jordan Ortiz
been listening to local birmingham grime from 05 and got more into london stuff from 06 onwards and have definitely done my research on the origins over the years
have you ever heard of meridian crew or slewdem m8?
anyone who used to spit on pirate radio like de ja vu/rinse/heat fm on the grime dvds like practice hours/risky roadz is definitely classed as old school
not from the very start (02-03 eskibeat era) but they were both definitely well involved from 2004 onwards which is enough to be classed as old school
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Gavin Wood
>spoken word poetry
>grime
Hmm, okay den
Gavin Flores
You are using their current success as reasons for their past 'success'. That's not how it works mate. Eski , Dizzee, Titch didn't just blow up from nowhere, they had their beginnings too - long before Grime was even a thing.
>which is enough to be classed as old school
Not at all.
>anyone who used to spit on pirate radio like de ja vu/rinse/heat fm on the grime dvds like practice hours/risky roadz is definitely classed as old school
See above. All those things you have mentioned apart from Pirate Radio (hell even pirate radio) are around thanks to the actual old-school grime artists.
Leo Smith
Yes?
Jose Davis
What I am trying to say is artists like JME and Tempa T were "brought through" by people like Prez T (The actual old-school).
Alexander Cruz
>You are using their current success as reasons for their past 'success'
'no'
JME has always been fairly big from meridian crew and whereas tempz may have been more irrelevant til next hype he still had a presence in the scene
>See above. All those things you have mentioned apart from Pirate Radio (hell even pirate radio) are around thanks to the actual old-school grime artists.
which makes them old school
you're an idiot though and let this be the end of it, anyone who knows about grime would put them both in the 'old school' category
agreed but at this point anyone was around in that era can now be classed as old school, prez t predates grime by a lot
Alexander Ward
>anyone who knows about grime would put them both in the 'old school' category
Obviously not. But I am over this circle-jerk.
Give me some grime I may not have heard. Also what do you class artists like Big Chess, Stigz, YR - anything GMG, UK- hip/hop?
Thomas Sanchez
anyway regardless, they're definitely terrible examples of new school mcs, here are my favourites from the new wave
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>Also what do you class artists like Big Chess, Stigz, YR - anything GMG, UK- hip/hop?
honestly not heard of them which would tell me they're probably more UKhiphop as I'm not as in touch with that
Jack Wilson
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Is awesome, seen most of those I am also digging AJ Tracey as one of the better "UK Drillers". This may be a touchy subject but do you listen to 67? listening to them at the moment
>4 skengs
>4 skengs
>honestly not heard of them which would tell me they're probably more UKhiphop as I'm not as in touch with that
Yeah thats what I think they are more like.
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Jonathan Butler
>UK Drillers
wut
triggered
and nah I don't listen nor do I like 67
really hate trap/drill music and also UK rappers who try to sound american/spit in an american style
AJ Tracey is my favourite of the new scene though
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Justin Parker
>wut
>triggered
If anything I firmly believe Grime invented this new American wave of "drill" music. Drill is just slow grime minus the beats.
67 are pretty decent, they have skills for sure.
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Dave is my favourite of the newer artists.
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He easily has the best BL@ACKBOX
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Joshua Morales
>BL@ACKBOX
kek.
Connor Torres
>If anything I firmly believe Grime invented this new American wave of "drill" music. Drill is just slow grime minus the beats.
Even before the recent resurgence, US hip hop artists have been slyly stealing bits and pieces from grime for years
Yeah I rate Dave very highly too, only 17 definitely got a huge future, his new tune with AJ tracey is a banger too
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Jaykae just released a banger too
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Like tre mission's (canada) new one too
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Brayden Campbell
>too
>too
>too
whoops
Christian Hill
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Hadn't heard these, cheers.
How does this make you feel?
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I actually like Blacks though -
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Brody Bell
BIG MEATY SCABS
Matthew Kelly
If you haven't heard of tre mission then definitely check him out and get malmaison (free download)
he's a britaboo making grime with a slight canadian essence
>How does this make you feel?
good
he's not the best but it's nice to see the sound spreading, and he at least seems to understand grime more than US rappers, e.g starting his own radio sets and clubnights in Tokyo
don't really rate blacks much personally
Gavin Cox
You can make an argument that grime isn't hip-hop, but it does include rapping.
Parker Perez
>>black people in europe are so devoid of culture they just rip off black americans and rename rap to grime
Grime is the natural progression of the hardcore continuum you yank fuck.
Ayden Adams
MCing=/= rapping
'no'
grime develops from hosting/pa in raves and on pirate radio
the host MC is secondary to the instrumental
yanks will never understand this as they don't have the equivalent of rave culture