Do you like politics in music?

Do you like politics in music?

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yes

why?

If it's specific or on the nose it kinda becomes shit and ruins the music

why not?
it gives the music more personality

No. Sometimes borderline politics is okay but mostly, no.

As long as it's left-leaning. Right-leaning music is almost always complete garbage.

Killer mike is cringe for reddit teenagers

something can be apolitical and have personality

yes

No. Especially hate music about current events since it becomes irrelevant in a few years anyways.

Like said, do you think anyone will care what he had to say about Ferguson?

No. Politics ruin music. Political music sucks.

No. I just wanna listen to music without having other people's opinions shoved down my throat.

If the music conforms to politics that I personally agree with then yes. Otherwise it just makes me angry and not want to listen to the music. Like for example, there was some punk demo that came out recently that was just unusually good and really neat production but the band is populated by trannies; the lyrics of which pertained to evil white men or whatever. This disgusted me and turned me off of the music completely.

Where is the line drawn? Obviously Reagan youth is political, but is nine inch nails' year zero political?

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No. To discuss politics, one must know a thing about it. 99% of musicians don't even have university degrees and treat politics more like religion. Richey Edwards put a logical conclusion to politics in music—perhaps no one ever will top him, especially in 2016.

Moreover, it's obvious most labels are pro-liberal and won't allow anything that doesn't fit their narrative. Try criticizing the democrats in your songs, you will quickly call a witch hunt on yourself. Most musicians barely make living today already.

In general no, there are however albums with political undertones that I very like. I don't like politics in music generally, because most music with political messages or themes is uninspired boring trash. Politics is the most mundane subject in the world, we live in a world where everyone and their dog thinks that they should have a political opinion, it's like a fashion gadget almost. Problem is that some people don't have a fucking clue and unconsciously turn their own lack of intelligence into a political opinion and then proceed to shove it down everyone's throat because they feel entitled to have an opinion.

I may have drifted off there a bit cause I don't really know how I wanted to connect that to music. Anyways, the thing is, that if an artist doesn't have anything other to write about than politics, than it is likely that their music is just boring and uninteresting. Take Immortal Technique, he's got a nice flow and all, but his lyrics feel like political speeches. Maybe that is also the reason why so many people like him. As I said, literally everyone has a political opinion so as soon as they hear something that is political they jump on it because it's the only thing they believe they understand. That's why it's impossible to talk about TPAB here, nobody gives a shit about Kendrick's approach to telling his own story of gaining maturity as an artist, or his story of coming to terms with depression, or just the non-political lyrics of that album in general. People hear politics and they jump on it and disregard any other creative decision. That's why it's dangerous to include political themes in music from an artist's perspective. (cont.)

nearly all music is political in some way. the people that bitch about politics in music are usually just too stupid to parse it unless it's pretty blatant.

only if it follows my ideology because its the only correct reasonable way of thinking and inherently right everyone else is just fucking retarded

I used to but not any more unless you are SOAD. It's pretentious. Millionaires complaining about the plight of common man while they spend spend spend without a care in the social world. Doesn't mesh.

It's hit and miss

Vietnam protest songs and anti-nuclear bomb bands were pretty cool.

But when Neil Young makes an album in the 21st century called "Let's Impeach the President" it's not that great

It is however possible to make good music and still be political. Kendrick did it, instead of making an album only about politics, he balanced the album with other themes and also by opting for a sound that is unconventional for a mainstream artist. Godspeed does it all the time, their music is political, yet not openly. One pretty much has to be aware of their political orientation, if not the messages of the samples may go unnoticed. Sleaford Mods does it, their lyrics are very openly political, but the way they bring their ideas across is original and refreshing. Big Black did it, although I feel like their lyrics are mainly controversial for the sake of being controversial.
Still I believe that politics should be avoided, there are much more interesting and artistically relevant themes to be explored by an artist.

tl;dr: Political music is acceptable if it's balanced by artistic originality, interesting creative decisions or other topics.

i dont give a shit about lyrics personally desu. a guy could sing about killing jews and blacks or pissing in a homeless guy's soup but if the music and songwriting is good i'll vibe with it.

i've mostly been listening to non-english music lately anyway

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Politics is stupid.

T H I S

It's a literal joke. A fucking reality tv host is about to become President.

I listen to a lot of music form the 70's/60's so politics doesn't really bother me much.

kind of, but in a more abstract way I guess. namedropping flavour of the month current affairs is cringe-tier. but there's certain music that can't really be described as apolitical (like say post-punk) but weaves any 'message' into the music more seamlessly

Politics in any kind of art fucking ruins it. The entire point of art is to express what can't be expressed in other ways. Look at how "slam poetry" has basically contributed entirely to the death of poetry as high art.

Besides, most political views in music are either whiny liberals bitching about how unfair society/capitalism is, or idiot right-wingers advocating white supremacy. There's very little in-between.

I find that Rage, although they pretty much are advocates of socialism, really hit a nerve with disenfranchised young people who were just kind of getting fucked over. Besides, their shit just gets you pumped

I'm gonna say it like this, if I had the choice between an album like Spirit they're gone Spirit they've vanished, an album about the emotional struggles of coping with the loss of childhood, and an album like Muse's Drones, then I would choose the first one a million times.

most of the time musicians have no idea what they're talking about or they get too preachy so no

stfu nigga you a fuckin pleb

Artists who aren't as smart as they think they are are annoying.

But when they stick to their instincts and express discontent in a more universal way (as opposed to preaching) i think it can be very powerful.

I think that 70's Uk punk still rings true, because it sticks to social politics. When it rejects right and left labels and focuses on people as individuals, politics are perfectly acceptable in art.

ayy lmao no it isnt.

Sure, in a vague, autistic, everything-is-connected-to-everything-else way, of course you need to embrace *some* ideology when you're writing song lyrics, but that's only per the nature of verbal language itself.
It doesn't mean that the lyrics are automatically dissecting and/or promoting that ideology.

On the one hand no but on the other hand it's really funny when Sup Forumstards struggle to talk about their memepolitics in the context of an album.

>Look at how "slam poetry" has basically contributed entirely to the death of poetry as high art.

how so? i guess ive never witnessed slam poetry, i guess i could just yutube it....explain

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Right wing music can be good if its tasteful.

It never fucking is.

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yeah but music is related to political and social concerns, it doesnt emerge and evolve in an apolitical bubble. like most jazz or blues is apolitical in terms of subject but they have deep roots in the political history of the US and its relation to race for example.

you can't "reject left and right labels" in politics though, thats one of the biggest fallacies going. Like people who consider themselves "non-ideological" almost certainly will fit quite neatly into a certain ideology, at least as much as someone who identifies with a particular label

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>jazz political
lmao what

that's like saying that Mozart's works promote classism because in his spare time he was giving music lessons to rich people in order to make ends meet.

Yes, but imo the artist has to be careful on how they implement it. I'm not saying they should beat around the bush; it's just that sometimes strong political influences lead to shitty, heavy-handed lyrics. The Knife are an example of correctly implemented political music, while Greenday is definitely not. Run the Jewels does it right, but this shit youtube.com/watch?v=Us2Ns_Si-iM definitely gets it wrong. Kendrick Lamar is OK but Anohni is kinda embarrassing. You have to be careful on how it's done.

and also, that's exactly what I'm saying. It doesn't matter what the music is ""related"" to.
It's only political if the lyrics are upfront dissecting the political status quo today in order to support it/whine about it, simple as that.

Do you like politics in your weebshit?

I like philosophy in my weebshit.

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If the song is grounded in feeling, truth, and the human experience, then sure a song can have politics in it.

But if the song is a by-product of politics, then it can go fuck itself.

Lmao stop

Depends on how its written.
Most political music is blatant and too straight to the point and it sounds preachy and shitty, the best music with political imagery are those that mesh into the song, don't seem forward and utilize the elements to make interesting verses and sometimes a story.

example of a badly written politics song: youtube.com/watch?v=6lIqNjC1RKU
example of a good one: youtube.com/watch?v=YdVMGKOFIwY

Sure, why not.

I don't search it out but it can be well done. Though of course I'd rather a song I liked didn't have a political message I strongly oppose.

>he doesn't like LotGH

Excellent taste comrade.

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Never really considered that second sentence but I would agree
This band and pretty much all punk are the only music that political lyrics don't turn me off from, even though their politics are pretty far off from mine

I don't really care. It can be a dealbreaker if the lyrics are bad, though (see: Hopelessness).

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politics in music is usually a dealbreaker regardless of the opinions being expressed

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I tolerate it unless it's too heavy-handed. However, what I listen to a lot was made during the Cold War and hearing people cry and complain about nuclear proliferation, global warming or whatever really makes the music and the artists who made it look really stupid because they were totally wrong. The same goes for modern artists, they have no clue what's going on and that's understandable; they're too busy making music to do any serious research besides what they hear from the media. They have no knowledge on anything important beyond what a high schooler knows.