What were they legit no bullshit the first at in a musical sense...

What were they legit no bullshit the first at in a musical sense? Not stuff like first British band to make it in America, first album with 14 songs, chart achievements, sales, etc, just purely musical achievements. Obviously they deserve credit for bringing a number of ideas to the forefront (like the concept album) but what were they actually the originators of? A lot of myths about this out there.

Some I can think of but am not quite sure on:
>First Baroque pop song? (Yesterday)
>First sitar in a pop setting (pretty sure on this one)
>First use of feedback on a recording (I Feel Fine)

Are these right? What else is there?

First rock band to write their own songs
First rock band to use rewind on a track(Rain)
First rock group to release an album with more than 8 or 10 songs
First band to star on a film of their own. Which led the director to create what we know of "video clip aesthetics".
First rock band to create their own label.
First rock band to print the lyrics on the album
First rock band to play in a sports stadium
First rock band which toured around the world

>First rock band to write their own songs

lolno

>first rock band to write their own songs

>First rock band to write their own songs
Not the Beach Boys with Surfin' Safari in 1962?
>First rock band to use rewind on a track(Rain)
check
>First rock group to release an album with more than 8 or 10 songs
Hard to believe but I can't think of a counterexample
>First band to star on a film of their own. Which led the director to create what we know of "video clip aesthetics".
not musical
>First rock band to create their own label.
not musical
>First rock band to print the lyrics on the album
not musical
>First rock band to play in a sports stadium
not musical
>First rock band which toured around the world
not musical

It was a standard back then in the U.K. to have 14 songs in an album while in the U.S., it was usually just 10 or less.

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>First rock band to write their own songs
>First rock group to release an album with more than 8 or 10 songs
>First rock band to create their own label.
>First rock band which toured around the world

uh

>First Baroque pop song?
The Left Banke

>First sitar in a pop setting (pretty sure on this one)
The Kinks

>Obviously they deserve credit for bringing a number of ideas to the forefront (like the concept album)

The Beatles weren't the first at anything. They just got really popular. REALLY popular. So popular that they could release anything and it would be a hit.

They indulged in that fact by doing things in their subsequent music that other people wouldn't, because it would have been risky (i.e. the songs would not have been hits if they were recorded by anybody else, because they could not be marketed as easily, and not only that, if you did anything difficult or clever musically, you were expected to recreate it live). They did not innovate, except perhaps in "Tomorrow Never Knows" and some parts of Sgt. Pepper. Don't believe anything else anybody says.

I believe I've read they were the first to do a fade-in, but feel pretty sure that either my memory is wrong or that person was.

your a dorable

adt vocals and dog whistles

They were the first band to do what they did as well as they did it. Yes, some obscure or talentless artists made music using one thing they tried once before they did it, let alone that The Beatle's may not have even known about it. What's important is that not only were they relentlessly trying things that were new *to them* (which is all that's actually important) but they were also fantastic songwriters and performers.

"B-but user, two people in the world put feedback in a track several months before The Beatles did!"

Oh I'm sorry, they were the *third* act to use it... Still pretty courageous and forward thinking for literally the biggest musical act of a century, possibly of all time.

It was good and appreciated in 60's. it's crap now.

First band to use Feedback on a rock record (on purpose)

First to use double-tracking

my bad "artificial" double tracking

This will be a forever bitter pill to swallow, but Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Jimi Hendrix, AND Santana will ALWAYS destroy the Beatles in EVERY WAY, SHAPE, AND FORM.

Too bad, so sad...
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>Santana
you took the b8 too far, noone will fall for it, unless this board is filled with people who have only listened to Cavaranserai

>some obscure or talentless artists

Yeah, really obscure talentless people like Joe Meek, Phil Spector, Les Paul, Brian Wilson, the list goes on...