Do you have to live in London to understand this album or something? Whenever people explain why they like it, they just say something along the lines of "Imagine walking home at 4am in downtown London, stepping over passed out junkies as the puddles block your way" or some shit. It's NEVER actually about the music with this album. Not denying that some music is more potent in certain situations, but how can this album be so regarded when it's only a situational album?
Do you have to live in London to understand this album or something? Whenever people explain why they like it...
will give this a good ol' "Bump"
I listened to Burial because apparently it's considered Sup Forumscore but I really didn't get it either.
It sounds so "whatever". Someone explain what so good about it?
If you've ever perpetuated the "dude to appreciate burial you totally have to listen to him on a bus at 4am in the rain at night when it's dark in the city when it's raining at night" meme you are vermin and you literally need to be drowned.
it's quintessentially British, the samples, the sub bass, the melancholy. It doesn't necessarily apply to London, but urban rainy gray Britain, sure.
Watch Misfits season 1 and 2
It's so heavily regarded because this album literally invented dubstep.
You just have to be into bleep bloops I guess
requesting the comic where the guy listens to untrue and goes into another dimension
gr8 album tho m8 11/10
when i think of dubstep i think of skrillex, how is this dubstep?
Different dubstep.
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i know it sounds like im trolling but i'm legit curious
dubstep is a genre that evolved in britain in the early 2000s from garage and dub
skrillex popularized mildy noisy dancepop that employed an exaggerated version of the song structure/rhythm of dubstep and called it dubstep
This invented the genre called dubstep. Skrillex and a few other American artists copied some elements from it and referred to their own work as dubstep, even though it's not all that similar. The technically correct term, even according to Wikipedia, for Skrillex type music is "brostep".
I dont understand how people can associate place with music, Like yeah you probably are just focus on the samplers that sound like a city and the artist is from london?
This album sounds like leaving a party early on your own because you feel bad and hearing people having fun in the street as you roam around and reconsider all of your life choices.
It's great.
gotcha. thank you for the responses. i wish there was an aural test or something where i could hear a song and then have to name whether it was house, acid, deep house, dubstep, techno, ambient, or any of those other genre tags for electronic music because so much of it sounds similar to me.
look up ishkur's guide to electronic music. it's an ancient, biased and occasionally inaccurate piece of shit, but it's honestly fantastic for getting to grips with what genres sound like.
it's so old that it was made before dubstep or any """edm""" existed though, so it can't help you with that
will do, gratze
>americans think Burial invented dubstep
wew lad dubstep was a thing before Burial even got his first tune pressed
who itt said that cuz that's pretty dumb
you should ask /bleep/ about this
americans were hugely influential tho
>what is garage
No, leave us alone.
Yeah and Americans also for the most part rejected their own creations of house and techno for being too black and gay and only accepted dance music when it was regurgitated into a homogenous, marketable schlock 25 years later
that is besides the point, nerd
See:
wow that's pretty retarded
I'm saying that as a pardner
He was the one who brought it out of shitty underground UK clubs and into the real world.
I mean he popularized a sound from it to a degree, but he didn't make it
>He was the one who made it palatable to rockist music mags who praised him and the indie kids shortly followed suit
Holy fuck this thread
what is wrong with the last three posts you quoted
>this invented the genre called dubstep
>dubstep is a genre that evolved in the mid 2000s
tbf at least the guy who doesn't know admits he doesn't
Not only is that is that not really true, Burial's style is more in line with what was first coined as dubstep circa '02-'04 rather than the full-on half time 140 stuff that was prominent in '06 and '07 and onward.
Also, if you're going to shit on club culture you really shouldn't be listening to dubstep in the first place.
tru
>burial invented dubstep
>dubstep evolved from dub in the early 2000s
Pretty ignorant posts. But that's Sup Forums for you, they'll bitch and whine about a type of music they have absolutely no clue about.
Also, since Sup Forums loves Burial so much, how come I never see any mention of Dusk + Blackdown outside of /bleep/?
burial is future garage not dubstep
You're thinking about it too much. The appeal of that album is just the groovy rhythms with well-edited vocal samples and a bit of ambient bits between tracks. Not much more than that.
>invented dubstep
Yikes
See Dont worry user. Once you listen to something enough you can easily tell the differences.
>Dusk + Blackdown
my nigga
Keysound 4 life
>people fell for the b8
To be fair though Burial is really just El B-esque dark 2-step garridge with vinyl crackle and rain samples. Other "future garage" barely even sounds like garridge at all desu.
didn't see that part of that post, that's pretty retarded
I said dubstep evolved from garage and dub in the early 2000s m8. it might have been more accurate to say it evolved from garage influenced by dub, but still, I don't see much of an issue with what I said
Everyone should listen to this album.
I finally got this album after I visited London and listened to it walking at night, so yes.
>dub
It didn't though. The dub in dubstep refers to "dubplates", not dub music. Common misconception.
You don't even have to visit London necessarily, just any huge megalopolis with lots of poor city corners and homeless hobos. Moscow, Paris, Detroit work too.
though there was a fair amount of dub influence in certain artists' productions (like the digital mystikz crew for one)
Untrue is a meme, s/t is the real GOAT
To be fair, Skrillex has never called his music dubstep and knows well what dubstep is. He just said that his music is influenced by dubstep, so his fans decided to label it as that and ruined it for everyone.
More reggae and soundsytem culture in general. I'm pretty sure Mala said in his RBMA vid that he wasn't even into dub back in the day. The resurgence in dub music influence in dubstep is more of a recent thing.
The key influences were jungle and garage. Dubstep is pretty much just slower jungle really.
>all these Americans thinking they're experts on dubstep and they've never heard of fwd>> or plastic people
ffs lads
I bet you're the same retards who are convinced that grime is hip-hop and think it started with "German Whip"
Maybe the people who don't "get it" just don't own a subwoofer?
Kind of hard to explain , it clicked for me late one night when I was walking around a mall by myself and it was closing time , Etched Headplate came on and pretty much summed up how I felt , not sad or anything just a bit lonely and disenchanted
Dont need to go to London to fully understand it
>Dubstep is pretty much just slower jungle really.
well that and really stripped down too. Dubstep is far more steady rhythmically than jungle was.
Brostep has existed for quite some time before Skrillex hit the scene. That one "Guess I got my swagger back" track has been around for a year before Skrillex released his debut EP.
To all the people saying that you don't get this album.
What equipment did you use to listen to it?
grime is freeform UKG with talentless british memerappers all over it, yes
>freeform UKG
I don't think I've ever felt so embarrassed at reading something on the internet
get help
this album came out way after dubstep was born
skirlet came out way after this album
I think he just meant ruff sound friend
You missed the threads were Americans thought that anything with an MC on it, be it jungle, garage, grime, dubstep, was just "British people trying to make hip-hop".
You could say it started with this.
>Americans
[citation needed]
I have only heard the self-titled album as full (I've heard some tunes from Untrue on some Burial mix) I guess it's pretty much the same.
I'm form Finland and the album made complete sense to me even tho I've never been close London.
I was kind of surprised that people equate his sound with contemporary London cause to me it sound more futuristic.
Kinda like being a cyborg living your entier life completely alone in the metro tunnels of a megapolis.
Do you listen to much Finnish dubstep?
youtube.com
Try listening to it again when you're sad, lonely and it's dark and rainy outside. It's just one of those albums that has to click with you
I don't
Basically the only Finnish dubstep release I know and like:
swaegrecords.bandcamp.com
The only Finnish electronic music acts/artist that I listen that I can think to are Mika Vainio/Pan Sonic, Huoratron and Vladislav Delay
Check out LAS, he has some great tunes:
youtube.com
Teeth is the only other finnish dance musician I can think of really:
youtube.com
Yeah, Sasu is a god.
I live in California and I fucking love this music. The ambient samples in the background have so much life in them.
terrible advice, YOU CAN ONLY ENJOY THIS WHEN YOURE SAD! are you fucking kidding me
I've literally never been to the UK and I like this album. It just sounds nice.
I unironically live in London, and I love this album, so actually probably yes
>Imagine walking home at 4am in downtown London, stepping over passed out junkies as the puddles block your way"
you forgot that it has to be raining lightly
so now what are you supposed to call the old dubstep, since the new kind has appropriated that title?
Perfect example of why you don't need to have lived in London to understand Untrue. Bowie's Berlin era stuff, particularly the track Warzawa. You might not ever have been there, but that track manages to express and evoke the feel and vibe of that place during that time simply through the power of the music. You don't need to have been there to feel it, which is what makes it such a great work of art that it achieves this. Burial's music similarly captures a part of the spirit of London in a beautiful way through sound.
call it burialstep since he invented it
this. As a northerner I can confirm it appeals to me for these same reasons.
it gave me a nostalgic feeling on the first listen.
his music comes from a personal place. his drum samples have a uniqueness to them and his choice of crackling and lofi sounds create a motif that is very inspired, detailed, and unmistakable. his basslines are mind blowingly good at being rough but somehow they maintain a softer side that doesnt overpower the listener, his work is the difference between crafting something and otherwise creating something.
its hard to find other artists that have similar sounds, while they doesnt explain anything about him, him music sounds underground to me and i mean that in the way people say his music sounds urban. like literally. sure some people go after similar crackly aesthetic but burial hit the nail on the head with each variable.
one of my favorite tracks by him from this album
youtu.be
Second this shit.
Except in the summer, Britain looks how this album sounds.
...and by summer I mean the 12 days in June where it's not raining.
its grossly overrated. pretty much darude for people with art degrees
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Just listened this album in a public transport, at an raining night. I don't even live in London or anything, but it fits so well with that atmosphere. I already loved that album, now I love more.
Someone is trying really hard with this.
Explain
lol fucking wut
brostep you mong
no, just no
do you really think that much thought goes into it?
goes into what?
it
holy fuck dude
how autistic do you have to be? like who are these people to say "this is definitively the roots of dubstep" and then chart a bunch of random shit to it.
Never listened to this album, does it also work in Seattle?
it works in your ears
Tbh I hate to be a meme but when I was vacationing in London last year (I'm a Canadian btw) I listened to Untrue while walking, taking the underground etc around london listening to untrue while walking around late night is a life changing experience.
Being on a balcony or bridge or any above ground place in London and listening to Rival Dealer during a cloudy day is amazing too
This was actually a pretty interesting thread where I learned a lot. glad i stumbled into it.
c l a s s i c