If you want help: >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs: >NO i5 7500/7600K or i7 7700/K. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY COFFEE LAKE >NO R3 1200/1300X or R5 1400/1500X. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY THE R3 2200G AND R5 2400G >G4560 - non-gaming (light tasks) or bare minimum gaming builds with a dedicated graphics card >R3 2200G - Budget builds (best with OC + fast RAM) or for gaming WITHOUT a graphics card >R5 1600 / i5 8400 - Great gaming (especially the i5 8400) or multithreaded use CPUs (especially the R5 1600) >R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper / i7 - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use
RAM: >Current CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal >Before buying RAM for Ryzen, check your Mobo's QVL or look for user reports
Graphics cards: >Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon) 1080p >MSRP of standard 1080p cards: 1050Ti, 140USD; 1060 3GB, $200; 1060 6GB, $230; RX 570 4GB, $170; RX 580 4GB, $200 >GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >GTX 1070/Ti and 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced >GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4K) >GTX 1080Ti
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 240GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor
XBox One S and X are getting FreeSync 2 support over HDMI 2.0. Could make VRR monitors using the open VESA/HDMI standards even cheaper/more available. I wonder if the PS4 will support it at some point, the display controller should be able to do so.
Elijah Gray
To my total and utter surprise, the building went without a single solitary problem.
Now all I have to figure out is this "OVERCLOCKING" bullshit
Huh, in posting that I just noticed that it shows up as 6gb ram rather than 8gb
So there is a problem.
Spoke too soon I guess
Mason Myers
Pls some AMD techmaster help me.
I need specific information about the Acer Tricera CZL motherboard in my Acer Aspire ES1-523. (Nothing in the User's manuals or Acer's website, the FP4 socket doesn't even have a Wikipedia article). I have already sone my researchs, and couldn't find the answer.
Does my motherboard support SATA III technology (6 Gb/s max), despite my HDD being a SATA II HDD (3 Gb/s max) ?
Pretty sure that's just the integrated GPU taking its share of memory to use (in this case 2GB of it). Nothing out of the ordinary there.
Julian Davis
Should I replace my old R9 290X from Sapphire with RX 580 8GB from Powercolor?
The 290X is loud and hot, also has HDMI 1.4. Which really blows when you have a brand new 4K TV and can't really use it as a monitor in it's native resolution (it's limited to 30 Hz when in 4K).
Performance difference is rather small. It wouldn't really be an upgrade.
New desktop CPU design paradigm when? My 8350K at 5.2GHz can't get past ~120fps in Far Cry 3 even if I play at 800*600. Current CPUs are just too weak in terms of serial power.
What I would do is slap an aftermarket cooler on it since it's going to perform similarly to the RX 580 anyway. And pretty sure your current GPU supports displayport.
Mason Evans
check your bios the integrated graphics may have 2gb allocated to it
Gavin Brooks
Yup, that's what it was.
I'm literally retarded
I wouldn't mind, but i fucking set it to 2gb, so you think I'd fucking remember that
Its a laptop right? you should definitely call ACER and ask them
it happens
Carter Gonzalez
>it happens
Sure does, and it's my first time, so I'm expecting problems.
Almost disappointed there is none.
Daniel Parker
I found a server with a Intel Xeon W3540, 16GB of ram and a Quadro FX 3800.
What should I do with it?
Cooper Bennett
>you should definitely call ACER and ask them Not them but Acer won't know that shit lol. It's an old model so they would know as much as you
Jack Campbell
if anyone knows that its acer if they don't then he will have to deal without that info
Kevin Martinez
It's Samsungs UE49MU6400. No DisplayPort.
I tried using DP to HDMI 2.0 adapter. It doesn't work properly.
At this point what I'm just trying to wait out this whole crypto bullshit. I can get that 580 for "only" £300. For comparison: the cheapest GTX 1060 costs £350 minimum.
Austin Morgan
You could probably get some of your money back by selling the R9 290X. Pretty bad situation to be in, and pretty bad TV.
Adam Ward
Pretty bad TV? Find me something better for less than £520.
Juan Rodriguez
This trend of not supporting DP on TVs is bad. No offense intended.
Joseph Thomas
How's my build Sup Forums? I would buy a GPU around Christmas, so until then I need integrated graphics. Should I wait until the i7-8709g? The only info I can find about it on YouTube is from a bunch of Indians
Well yeah it's bad, no argument there. But beggars can't be choosers. So...? Do you have any recommendations?
Lucas Walker
>FreeSync 2 support over HDMI 2.0 Very nice.
Nice. Don't worry about overclocking the CPU, just the iGP. Set your iGP to use the smallest amount of RAM possible in the BIOS
Wait it out until the Fall. Such an expensive sidegrade is definitely not something I'd do
You are retarded, comfy duck poster. It's about the engine, not the CPU (per se, although the i3 8350K is entry in today's CPU market). Also your graphics card is probably not the best if you settled for an 8350K
Gabriel Young
I just got this refurbished from ebay during the deal the other day for $350, anybody have any experience with it it's, 1440p/144hz/IPS/Freesync
Will a Ryzen 5 1600 bottleneck a rig with 16gb ram and a 1080 ti?
Mason Reed
Looks like only Panasonic makes DP 4k TVs, but these are slightly more expensive. Absolute lack of choice.
John Gonzalez
Guess I'll refer the matter to the Adeptus Mechanicus then. Thanks.
Andrew Moore
No.
Eli Richardson
>i7-8709g that will likely be a chip for laptops and such I don't think it will be a desktop CPU
other than that you will probably want more storage also for the price of the mobo you could get an ATX one with VRM heatsinks so you can properly overclock it
Alexander Ross
At 1080p, definitely. At 1440p, not really. At 4K, no.
Connor Brown
I had a 50PUS6272 but returned it. Shit TV with shit interface and shit panel. Seriously, the screen uniformity was the worst. Plus tons of backlight bleed and faint X shapes all over the screen.
Man I miss Ambilight so much.
Colton Young
I'm just assuming SATA 6 Gbit/s since an older (socket FT3) supports it. Maybe if you have exact cpu model it could help with this search.
Michael Sullivan
Honestly that's what I was thinking. As for 4K content I can use my girlfriends PC.
This fall you say? What makes you think that?
Easton Parker
1080p - yes 1440p - GPU usually hits as low as 80% in some games so a 20% bottleneck at worse case. 2160p - No gpus will be bottlenecked at this point. CPU doesn't matter as much. But nothing currently can run highest details on some AAA titles at 60fps so pick your choice.
If you keep your first gen ryzen it will definitely bottleneck with any stronger gpus available(1080ti and above) in the market. Not sure how big of a performance leap zen2 will make. You will definitely need fast ram, dual channel to get the most out of ryzen too.
Christian Peterson
>This fall you say? The 2060 is rumored for Fall. Actually if you want a GTX 2070 or 2080, they'll likely be out in July. Probably cheaper than the current price for an RX 580 and more appropriate for 4K as well.
Worth noting that HDMI 1.4 can do 4K, so if you're just watching movies or something your 290 should be fine. You can also get an el cheapo card like an RX 550 or GT 1030 to deliver 4K60 content like live sports
Hudson Ross
coffee lake cheap motherboards when
fuck intel
Caleb Cruz
>first gen ryzen will definitely bottleneck with any stronger gpus available(1080ti and above) Not necessarily, considering graphics req are steadily rising while CPU req are relatively flat. So if he's at high res, later graphics cards might not bottleneck too much because requirements will have increased as well. The bottom line is that the R5 1600 is a 60+FPS chip at any resolution, provided the graphics card can deliver.
Aaron Mitchell
You make a good point, rog. Although this is speculation to how great the newer cards performance in terms of how demanding games will become in the future. I can't imagine devs pushing it too far from what the average gaming computer has though. >The bottom line is that the R5 1600 is a 60+FPS chip at any resolution pretty much, it just werks.
Ayden Torres
>My 8350K at 5.2GHz can't get past ~120fps in Far Cry 3 even if I play at 800*600. Have you heard of "framerate caps", cash-for-brains?
Josiah Butler
>Will a mid-tier CPU bottleneck a top tier GPU I dunno, you tell me
Brody Harris
>games are maxxed out by any mid tier CPU Really gets the almonds activated
Gabriel Campbell
Having a 1080 ti at 2GHz and a 1600X at 4GHz I can safely say that on some games with single thread focus will make the Ryzen CPU a limiting factor. My 240Hz monitor gets rarely "maxed out", however there is very little problem with reaching the much more common 144Hz on pretty much any game. I have a 4K TV which I use to play some games and basically all games are GPU limited on it. 1440p should give similar results as 4K.
Eh, for your monitor + graphics card an i5 or i7 would have been better, unless you got the R5 before Coffee Lake came out. Even then an i7 7700K would have been more appropriate, given that you spend so many hundreds on the 1080Ti and the monitor
The R5 is of course, "fine," but not ideal for max framerate.
Aaron Scott
sometime between too long and never
Landon Fisher
AORUS' AX370-Gaming K7 Motherboard I'm installing the USB3.0. I see two different slots on the Mobo I could plug it into side by side. The manual doesn't seem to make a distinction between the two, does it matter which I place it in?
Jonathan Morgan
>Upgrade PC >Turns out I was using an OEM copy of Windows 8.1 that I free upgraded to 10 >Can't activate windows, forced to buy a new copy because OEMs don't transfer between new PCs
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE, what the fuck.
That said, at least my old GTX 970 3.5 meme card is selling for nearly $300 used despite being almost four years old.
Luis Brown
"Some time 2018"
Parker Gomez
The i5 8400 might be my best CPU purchase ever.
Sebastian Davis
Why are you still using Windows?
Jack Peterson
gaymin
Chase King
You know you have to be over 18 to post here, right?
Jaxson Powell
Bought the 1600X on launch. Coffee lake obviously is superior at this date, but Intel was "late to the party". I can just upgrade to Zen2 or Zen+ when it launches if I think I need better CPU
Is Westmere still a good platform >t a guy sells dual xeons with ram and a motherboard for only 266 usd
Easton Howard
A4-7210 (AMD Quad-Core)
John Barnes
So inside my case (Phanteks Enthoo Pro) I only see the LED "POWER SW" cable in the way of LED cables, nothing else. The fuck gives?
Luke Ramirez
This seems like the right thread to ask. How much shittier is the "120 Hz CMI" (whic my PC says is 60 HZ) than real, honest to goodness, 120 Hz? Talking about the TCL 49S405, specifically.
>people who can't be bothered to spend a hundred hours learning how to redo their entire lives on a totally foreign OS with no support are children
Brayden Barnes
bitch, I have a 1080 and my i5 3570k is never above 70% usage while the 1080 is averaging 98%
Brandon Watson
Any of you guys have any luck buying GPUs off ebay? Thinking about getting a GTX 960 since they seem to be around $80 to hold me over until the new line of cards
Tyler Davis
no idea what the fuck teamgroup is. also you're only saving 10 to 15 bucks
Jackson Stewart
People who have never used GNU+Linux severely overestimate the difficulty of using it.
Noah Barnes
I have 2 grand, build me a pc that can play all games max out on 4k
Owen Wood
120Hz CMI means it has motion interpolation so basically it is 60Hz with the TV making what it thinks should be in between each frame
Nicholas Wilson
Surely this is inferior to normal 120Hz, no? I can't find a good side-by-side.
Games need more than that now? Video games are such a racket.
Easton Sullivan
You're not getting a 960 for $80. The ones I see on ebay right now around that price are all either very few bids and lots of time left, or scams.
Learn to recognize a scam. For instance, this is a scam: ebay.com/itm/GTX1050-750Ti-970-960-1-2-4GB-GDDR5-192Bit-HDMI-Graphics-Card-For-NVIDIA-GeForce/302661027296 The biggest giveaway is the images. First image: a 1050 that appears to have HDMI, **VGA** and DVI. 1050 do not have this port configuration and cannot do VGA. The 970 and 750ti options have exactly the same ports, just a different cooler. What you're getting here is a GTX 4xx or 5xx series card that's been BIOS hacked to say it's the card you asked for. The RAM quantity might be spoofed too. It will work but it won't perform, and it'll crash now and then because of the spoofed model and RAM that don't match actual capabilities. Or, they won't ship you anything, send a bogus tracking number, and vanish.
Noah Foster
What's the cheapest case (for mATX mobo) with good dust filters? My fucking Zalmaz Z1 is very good at collecting dust and keeping it clean is a pain in the ass.
Ryder Adams
>Graphics Card For NVIDIA GeForce >For I hadn't noticed that bit. From what I've seen, the best I can tell is "for" means what you get may not be the thing they put in the title, but instead something else that they've judged to be sufficiently compatible with it.
Adrian Taylor
yes it is since it can be wrong im also not sure it works for games since you render games as you play them rather than TV where it already has both frames and can then make 1 to put in between
Bentley Gutierrez
Which one of these is better? I'm gonna be using them with a 6600k, which is supposed to support up to 2133 mhz DDR 4 ram. Second link is the XMP Profile 1, the 3000 mhz one.
With real 120 Hz, your PC renders up to 120 distinct frames a second and sends each one to the display.
With 120 Hz CMI, your PC renders only 60 frames a second, and sends 60 frames to the display. The display generates the remaining 60 frames to go in between the real ones using some algorithm. The algorithm may be pretty good, but it still isn't near as good as 120 real frames.
The thing that CMI was made for, and is great for, is playing normal 30 and 60 fps video content, where higher framerates aren't available.
Jeremiah Robinson
Whats your oc on your cpu?
Ethan Williams
Get a combo for the gpu and mobo. newegg has that exact 1080 and a mobo as a combo for like 750
Xavier Butler
I don't understand why low/mid-range boards still aren't out yet for Coffee Lake. The i5 8400 + non-OC board would be such a great 1080p gaming set-up that would give the R5 1600 some serious competition.
Is a Pentium G4560 ITX build worth it? Light gaming of my very old steam library and mostly software development.
Owen Rogers
Go matx then yes it is.
Gavin Evans
>>G4560 Kill yourself.
Ian Reyes
Do not get memed into buying a dual core cpu in current year.
Jace Morris
>matx Any reason expect saving on the mobo?
I really do not need multicore performance right now and I consider upgrading the build in the future (>2 years) with a used cpu.
Hunter Morales
>I really do not need multicore performance right now Yes you do.
Jonathan Price
How many of you guys who are running multiple monitor set ups have two or more different monitors? Does it hurt your eyes? Does it effect performance in any way?
Cooper Jackson
>Any reason expect saving on the mobo? Smaller form factor for the same functionality. I had a ATX board once and barely used half the ports or slots in there so when I went to mATX I used all the ports I needed to and an upgrade could still be made with the same ports/slots. It's smaller and less 'arrogant' as I put it, nothing horrendous than a gigantic gayming PC that doesn't need to be that big when you can have a smaller case.
Noah Torres
is a mid tower a gigantic gaymen PC to you? it seems pretty normal to have and doesn't need to be obnoxious
