This thread is about the appreciation of whorology, as well as the micro-engineering and materials engineering that are required to make a fine watch, clock, or other timepiece.
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What are some good watch blogs? I tend to like Wornandwound but I'm wondering if there are any others.
Ecelebs can fuck off though.
First for reliable Chrono.
So...back to my question; aren't the movements for Vacheron now made by JLC, or was the dealer pulling my leg trying to sell me one?
JLC have made movements for every holy trinity brand. Which watch your dealer is talking about?
Well, I was in a JLC boutique, and the guy was trying to sell me a Reverso, which in person really looks awesome. He asked me what my preferences were in terms of watch, and I mentioned casually that I'd always been a fan of Vacheron Constantin but that now I'd seriously start to consider JLC. Then he immediately piped up and said, 'well, JLC actually makes the movements for Vacheron, so why not go with the 'original' thing?'
I wasn't sure if he was just pulling my leg, but given how much I've learned about the difference in terms of who creates what and who shares what within the conglomerates, I couldn't figure out how much of what he said (if anything at all) was true. That's why I asked here, and thanks for the info.
In that case.
I like the Vacheron thin cased watches. They're the most beautiful watch I've ever seen. But I'm always open to beautiful things...
First for windy Chrono.
Bretty gud Shichizun.
I do like the Royal Oak but if I had to pick between Royal Oak and Nautilus I would go Nautilus.
In general Nautilus if I could only pick one of the three.
Royal Oak > Overseas > Nautilus
evening gents~
Evening, AIDS patient.
JLC have historically been a maker of movements that would end up in a lot of other brands watches. That did include PP & VC.
However in recent years I thought JLC was concentrating more on selling those movements in their own watches. Likewise I'm not aware of any modern VC models that aren't produced with in-house movements but it is possible.
how far into the chemo are you?
Enjoy that broken mainspring user
This desu
Why would it break? Also, will it break sooner than the one that broke in my Omega last year?
Feed your wrist a cheeseburger or something, Jesus
Looks structurally unsafe
Forgot to add, liking the milgauss
What do you guys think about Credor ? Are those watches just meme tier grand seikos with funny looks ?
Fucking kek
I'm not a modern omega fan, and I actually like the look of the 1963.
The st19 mainspring unravels and then it's dead. How long have you had that one
>Likewise I'm not aware of any modern VC models that aren't produced with in-house movements but it is possible.
The movement in their Corne de Vaches chronograph is a modified Lemania movement and the 1955 Ultra-Fine uses a JLC 920 movement (It's the same movement Audemars Piguet puts in the Royal Oak "Jumbo").
Pic unrelated.
They are basically $50k quartz watches. So yeah, utter shit.
About a month now. Given the reports from other owners on WUS, the mainspring issue doesn't seem to be happening often enough for me to be worried about. Anyway, I have a trusted watchmaker who I can take it to if need be, so I'm honestly not worried. For a $300 column-wheel chronograph, it's well worth the money.
Well, the Omega is from the mid-90's, before co-axial, and it had been running for about a decade straight, but I'm pretty sure that when it conked out it was the mainspring, possibly from separation.
The modern Omegas are hits and misses in my view. The 1963 is fucking awesome in person, but if you're going to buy it, definitely go Acrylic and the 37mm case.
> The movement in their Corne de Vaches chronograph is a modified Lemania movement
Isn't that more to do with the fact it's a modern copy of the original?
> and the 1955 Ultra-Fine uses a JLC 920 movement
Well ultra thin movements is JLC's speciality so that makes sense.
Post pictures of hot girls with watches.
Maybe I should clarify my statement. I haven't yet read of a mainspring problem. People have had their watches conk out, but either they haven't taken it to be repaired (and thus are just guessing and the cause of the problem) or they sent it back to the shop they bought it from and it was replaced/repaired.
But given the frequency of problems compared with the known ownership (I know, not a great metric, but it's all I've got), it looks like around 1 in 10 watches sent out to customers have problems that can be solved with minor regulation, and again about 1 in 10 stop working or have a problem with about 3 years of continuous use.
I took mine to my watchguy immediately upon receiving it in the mail because the chronohand was jumpy, and some watchmakers here kindly informed me that it was an easy minor adjustment. Sure enough, when I took it to my guy, it was, and he looked it through to make sure everything else was okay, and it was given a clean bill of health along with some rather startling numbers on the positional rate.
Right now it's settled and holding at +1 second a day (when I first got it, it was less than a second), so I'm happy. I understand the haters though...but this is the 'price' of budget mechanical watches. You have to expect them to have problems, especially if you know the provenance. I wouldn't expect a Longines-and-up to have any problems, and if they did, I'd be fucking furious.
What info do you have regarding the St19 mainspring unraveling? I'm not asking because I don't believe you, but because I'd like to know where I could read up more about it. Also, have you seriously thought about getting one? There are lots of variations that you should know about, as well as several different places that sell them (all selling slightly different versions).
Does anyone have one of these?
Do you like it?
I want to get one but they're all $100+ and I'm just unsure
Is this psychological warfare being carried out by seiko males or are you actually a faggot.
This is my watch. A Scubapro from the 70s I had restored due to some heavy water damage.
It doesn't show in the pics but it's unfortunately heavily scratched in the inside and I really need to replace the crystal.
Here's a better shot of the fucked up crystal.
I like it
It's a really good swiss auto and the fact that it survived after 10-years of being submerged in rain water without any major repairs is a good testament of that. Runs with decent accuracy too, at around +-7sec/day.
It's unfortunate I had to relume and repolish the case, but the old lume was rotten and the case was heavily scratched to a point where polishing was just better.
Wish I could replace the crystal for a sapphire one but I don't know if it's possible on such old diver. A new mineral one would do, though.
Just need to have some extra cash to have my watchmaker measure the crystal so I can order it.
The micro-art studios credors are fantastic (think eichi II). Some of the lower end credors, like some quartz pieces you can pick up for a few kilobucks are just jewelry.
beautiful watch user
got ref no.?
Semi-production Credor and Micro-Art Studio Credor are essentially totally separate entities, really. They just share a name and branding.
Shame about the loss of the orange on the bezel.
Too bad the 12:00 lume pip couldn't be made orange like it was originally. Otherwise it cleaned up really well.
Speaking of which, Sharpie, or even food coloring, should be enough to dye the painted lume.
Thank you.
It's a Scubapro 500.
Initially he had just relumed the 12:00 marker in green lume, but then I came back and just asked him to replace for orange enamel that matched the seconds hand and it's what he did. You can see it in the second picture I posted.
It's not ideal but if one day I can find a orange lume that matches, I can have it relumed again in the right color.
>that awful bracelet
>$600 for a fucking Casio
This is what you get for years and years of bitching about wanting a steel digital watch.
Orient user here. Extending my meme tech portfolio with the LX100. Squint against the granduer.
Ah, I thought the green was newer.
It's really not a difficulty. Combine green lume powder (brightest) or orange lume powder, with orange paint and maybe some sort of epoxy-like binder to harden it for durability. Very unscientific.
It looks really cool, enough that I was considering buying one just now, but it's 34mm (excluding crown) and a lug width of 18mm. Which is too small. If you're going to get a watch that small consider getting pic related instead, which the same seller appears to have.
Gon get me a turdle
or, you can just get the OG """steel""" digital watch for twenty ameribucks
Do you think it's easy enough for me to DIY?
I think I can strip the orange enamel very easily. If the process is as easy as you describe, it seems the kind of think I'd confident to do myself.
Saving the cost of the watchmaker, this goes from 'something I want to do someday when I have some more cash' to 'I'd definitely order the stuff tomorrow'.
I just hope you're not going to try to fit that fuckhuge bezel underneath a dress shirt cuff like your image implies, user.
Niggas wearing diving watches with fucking suits. Something wrong with you guys.
You only get to say that the day you become cooler than James Bond.
I have the same one. Good watch. Only thing is yea chapter ring might be a bit off. Also the bracelet is quite chunky with little flex so consider something aftermarket.
Ironic, called scubapro, yet had water damage...
Looking at the OEM rubber that comes with the other turtles. Supposedly very comfortable and I like the metal keeper
HATE crown guards desu
Then don't buy watches with them.
10-years submerged in dirty rain water from an abandoned attic.
And the watch would still wind and run when I found it.
What ISO Standard is it suppose to have in order for survive that completely unscathed?
He legitimately might go diving in his suit. You sure as shit aren't. Also, they're considering making him black or a woman so that day wont be far off.
If you have the components and are confident you can get the lume nicely into the recess, yes. Fuck up and strip it again. Things like dial indices are what is difficult.
If it was fully submerged the whole time, the issue would be whether or not there were corrosive chemicals in the water. Rain water is technically 'fresh'...and if it stayed in the water and didn't periodically dry out and then get wet again, perhaps that would preserve the seals better. Also, if the condition of the watch (water resistance) was good before the attic, then that probably explains the ability of it to run when you got it out.
I can't remember...was it shown that Bond was wearing the Rolex outside of his drysuit when he was swimming in Goldfinger at the beginning, wearing the rubber duck on his head? He'd have to transfer it to his wrist after taking off the suit of course....
>pic almost related, but cool nevertheless
I agree wholeheartedly, but then again I don't actively dive very much.
I can imagine why they're so important though.
How is the SLA017 user? Worth the hype? Debating between it and a Grand Seiko auto or spring drive for around the same price.
That dome crystal is sexy.
Yeah that is pretty tiny, if it were 2 or 4 more it'd probably be perfect, I'm not sure what to do
There's also this beautiful one so it makes it even harder to decide if I want to get one
There's a company called Helson that makes a watch very similar to this. I love their take on the design but have no idea if they're shitters or not. Some of their watches are available with ETA movements.
Yeah, I saw that one too. It's sharp as hell. If it was 38mm I'd have bought it in a heartbeat.
>Acrylic
But why?
American fashion
tool watches have always been more popular and now often replace dress watches
excellent watch
saw this at the local watch shop
was pretty impressed by it when I tried it on my wrist.
too bad its only a 4R36 movement
they also had what I think was a SARG005 but I didn't look too closely at it
and the SARG
I think this is what it was but I don't remember exactly since the last I saw it
this has a better movement and I think its a bit cheaper so I might get this and save up for a marine master
Should I? It's only $25.
pretty gross imo
I got bitch wrists but I copped this. Waiting for in the mail.
Idgaf gshocks are supposed to look nigger big.
thank god these are in North America now
(also, how morbid is it to own a watch and watch your life tick away?)
How legible is this? Looks better than most negative displays.
to add, if you want a quartz chrono, seiko/citizen/casio have a fuckton of them
the citizen nighthawk and casio edifice lines are busy as fuck, which apparently you like, while the seiko SSB/SSC lines are a little more subdued
either way, that awful $25 faux-gold shit leads me to believe you're indian or something, so you're probably going to just buy it anyway
Never mind, didn't read
>Waiting for the mail
Washed out Alpenis.
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I don't like the Alpinist desu
the gold on green with all the text everywhere reminds me of my grandmothers ugly cuckoo clock
>doesn't like cuckoo clocks
not ugly ones
cuckoo clocks should either be qt or very traditional
her's looks like some 1970s abortion
Go for it.
It's a shitter, and it looks too busy in my opinion, but you like it, and $25 is nothing. You need to get shitters out of your system, and $25 is a great price.
The best is Hodinkee, especially if you're B€n ¢£¥mer
If you let a seller sell you a watch it means you have to do more research, son
A few reasons, though they're all tied to the aesthetic. The first is obvious: it's closer to the original, and the whole point of the watch is to be a reproduction of the first pilot's chronograph for the Chinese Air Force. The second reason is because it looks good. But the third reason...this is the key.
It's very difficult (it has been written) to make sapphire crystals domed at very acute angles, and that's why most of them that you see have only a slight curvature if it's not completely flat. For the sapphire crystal version of this watch, they had to mount the crystal on a metallic dome that extends upwards from the casing. This changes the profile and look of the watch in a way that is practically necessary (for the crystal) but not very pleasant aesthetically.
With the acrylic, you get the domed effect and the distortion of the light from the side without resorting to having extra opaque metal getting in the way. Many vintage watches with this acrylic dome (most notably the Omega Speedmaster) are coveted precisely because of this 'look'.
If you want it, go for it of course. But I dislike it severely, and if you want the watch to look as close to the original as possible, then the acrylic is the best choice.
God...what a horrible combination. Get rid of that damn Nato strap, post haste!
To be fair that white strap is also ghastly and only a nigger could pull it off
That's interesting, I had no idea. Any comparison pics?
/wt/ how the fuck do i remove the springbars on the SKX007? I have the springbar tool and the first one came off relatively eash but the second just won't fucking come off and i bent the fucking fork on the tool
Please for the love of God help me. I'll esuck your dick
Try floss?
>it looks good
>this 'look'
>look as close to the original as possible
The acrylic reissue's bezel is what looks like shit.
You really need to cut down on the fluff and autism in your posts. Nobody else cares that much. Better yet, stop posting. It's only recently we don't have SKX007s and Orient Rays being posted nonstop, but if we're trading one evil for another it's never going to improve. Just stop.
Good morning, fellow Slavshitter enthusiasts.
>inb4 Nato on Slavshit
The stock bars are terrible to remove yeah. Once you do get them out, replace them with aftermarket fat bars with shoulders (seiko divers have wider bars than normal).
Get the original "slav nato"
got any more pics of this? i'd like to see it outside in sunlight