Agree with all of those except Pablo. It's the forefront of contemporary popular music whether you like it or not.
Dominic Johnson
...and the 2015 teaser
Alexander Stewart
>kanye west >rock
Jordan Wright
Ho mah god
Brayden Reyes
Are any of the ones he mentions liking worth listening to?
Christopher Smith
>scaruffi fell for the lil ugly meme fuck...
William Williams
He's a fucking elder god level hipster so I don't know almost any of the ones he liked t b h, but I did enjoy King Goblin, Lifetones, and Lil Ugly Mane
William Cooper
You have to admit that Radiohead's latest album is an improvement over their last three, even if that's not much desu.
Jeremiah Martin
He did rate all the last three 5/10. I'm guessing AMSP will be at least a 6/10.
James Walker
im happy he likes no now
Gabriel Davis
Teens of Denial was disappointing shit, everyone is just sucking Will's cock hard, I'll agree with him on that.
I wonder if he'll go back and check out his early band camp stuff when he writes CSH's review page. I'd be interested to see what he thinks of My Back is Killing Me Baby, it was a really fucking good record, and unlike ToD it was actually interesting and it wasn't all generic indie rock band shit.
Eli Sullivan
you must be new
Josiah Martin
if this is b8 it's pretty good
Jack Brown
Oh Scruffy, being contrarian as usual. At least he liked Clarence Clarity
Christian Torres
Probably not. Even if he listens to something he could sincerely consider a 9, the bastard is too set in his contrarian attitude.
I mean shit it may not be impossible. He did give out an 8.5 a couple years back.
Mason Diaz
Bottomless Pit
Easton Flores
What was that, Have One On Me?
Tyler Miller
>Site Specific >2016 >A Cosmic Rhythm >not bland ECM-core
Bentley Lopez
Quick Sup Forums, what unreviewed album of the last two years is most likely to be a scaruffi 8 or higher???
Hunter Thomas
The History of Flesh
Wyatt Howard
>Blanck Mass >Clarence Clarity >Damaged Bug >Moon Duo >Fred Frith >Ugly Mane >Wand
memes aside, scruffles has pretty decent taste
Justin Cook
Scaruffi hasn't given out a 9/10 since the 90's. I wonder if there would be anything good bandcamp that would be worthy of a 9/10 since I imagine you would seee more creativity on a site like that. Even something like Kevin and the Bikes is more fun imo than a lot of other bands.
John Edwards
Because it deserves it.
Owen Long
But the Scaruffi rating gave OBND meme status. I understand the criticism: no 9's all millennium, 1 9.5 for the history of music, then suddenly out of nowhere a 10 for such a politically divisive record? OBND is, to be fair, spectacularly flawed: it hews too close to its obvious inspirations, Trout Mask Replica, Kaoru Abe's Winter 1972, and Stravinsky's Rite of Spring to name a few; some parts, most notably the 9 minute modal jazz fugue 'If My Truck Could Talk', are ambitious to the point of onanism; the dynamics, from -25 dBA RMS for tracks on end to the sound-barrier-breaking cathartic noise tempest on 'Two Night Town: Part II (the Second Night)', make it no less easier to experience for ears more accustomed with modern production styles. I would argue that it is precisely these flaws that give OBND it's effervescent je-ne-sais-pais that keeps me coming back to it time and time again. As Aldean writes in the liner notes to album centerpiece 'Burning it Down':
"Suppose that a man leaps out of a burning building and lands on a bystander in the street below. Now, make the burning building be Europe, and the luckless man underneath be the Palestinian Arabs. Is this a historical injustice? Has the man below been made a victim, with infinite cause of complaint and indefinite justification for violent retaliation? My own reply would be a provisional 'no,' but only on these conditions. The leaper must make such restitution as he can to the man who broke his fall, and must not pretend that he never even landed on him. And he must base his case on the singularity and uniqueness of the original leap. It can't, in other words, be 'leap, leap, leap' for four generations and more. The people underneath cannot be expected to tolerate leaping on this scale and of this duration, if you catch my drift. In Palestine, tread softly, for you tread on their dreams. And do not tell the Palestinians that they were never fallen upon and bruised in the first place.
Matthew Peterson
I agree. So far much of Teens of Denial sounds to me like a parody of indie rock. (When he starts yelling "I know when I'm being catered to!" it sounds like a spoof of bands who try to imitate the Pixies, for one of many examples.) I love many of the lyrics but the quality of the melodies and chord progressions from My Back is Killing Me Baby is sorely missed. That record could be his pinnacle so far. Better than Twin Fantasy IMHO.
I still have hope in Car Seat Headrest though. He's said in interviews that he was just forcing himself to write the songs on Teens of Denial because he was feeling demotivated due to college ending. He wrote How to Leave Town after Teens of Denial and that one's better, so hopefully Wave Goodbye to the Jets will be an improvement.
Mason Phillips
what are you talking about
Parker Jackson
If you haven't heard Andy Stott or LUM yet you're a newfag No.
Charles Wright
I'd almost forgotten about this meme
Blake Rivera
>scaruffi approves of Vatican shadow and Andy stott
Thank you God, now I can confidently say I like these artists
Jordan White
In Rainbows is their magnum opus
Ryan Anderson
lmao
Brandon Rodriguez
>people actually believe this
Lincoln King
He said his next album is his best so let's hope he's right.
Asher Nelson
sick
Thomas Long
>top jazz albums are William Parker and Matana Roberts LOL
What an avant teen
Jaxon Long
I read this as "Scaruffi Reviews Son"
Asher Gray
It's the culmination of all of the experience they gathered up to that point and expertly merges both their pop and experimental sensibilities. It's literally the only album of theirs that's a 10.
Benjamin Martin
hes not wrong...Lemonade, Teens of Denial, Pablo, and A Moon Shaped Pool are mediocre, the new Chance is shit, and Too Many Voices and City Sun Eater are fantastic records
Blackstar's my AOTY tho so....
David Reed
>2016 >doesn't formulate own opinions
Henry Reyes
arent you that Sup Forums tripfag who thinks that TFA was a good movie lmao
Logan Sullivan
It's Radiohead realizing that pop melodies are their forte. It's Radiohead realizing that eschewing what made The Bends and OK Computer good is a pretentious affectation, but doing this without completely ignoring the lessons of Kid A.
Adrian Clark
Fuck yeah Andy Stott
Blake Cruz
The only good Star Wars movies are the first one and the TFA, and mostly because they stick closely to the monomyth.
Liam Morales
>likes TFA >doesn't think ESB was good >actually thinks TFA was better than ESB
I actually want to thank you for posting here, thanks. It lets me know I should filter you and never have to see your vapid nonsense again.
Ethan Taylor
true
Carter Mitchell
Why do opinions bother you so much? Empire isn't a bad film by any means, but it's baggy and stilted, especially the scenes on cloud city. TFA, on the other hand, moves along pretty briskly, doesn't take itself nearly as seriously, and references the fact that it's a remake in a fairly postmodern way.
Dominic Torres
you've been ramping up your Sup Forums participation this summer and I should start taking note of all the dumb shit you say because you are literally the most embryo trip of all time, including Montie
Kevin Peterson
Great b8 kid. Let me know when you're grown up so I can show you these embarrassing posts.
Robert Martinez
Once you kids grow up you'll stop defining yourselves by your opinions and how closely they fall in line with the commonly accepted views of your particular clique. You'll be more willing to accept both conventional views (In Rainbows is one of Radiohead's best albums) and unconventional views (Empire Strikes Back isn't good) without feeling offended or becoming unreasonably upset. You'll learn to stop wearing taste like a garment and actually discuss art with people whom your disagree with.
Mason Young
I think rock is key word for pop in this case
Oliver Brooks
When do you graduate high school?
Robert Gonzalez
When you stop losing your shit and causing a scene over a disagreement about a space movie for kids
Oliver Barnes
omg dude reading that was sincerely embarrassing
Landon Hill
So you're admitting you're still in high school?
Jaxon Perry
It's mellow pop music with a few instrumental quirks. There's nothing significant about that album. You simply imprinted on it because you listened to it as a young teen.
Jordan Thompson
You can't browse Sup Forums if you're underage, sorry! :(
Adam Edwards
Poor tot, I was posting here when you handing in your 9th grade English report on To Kill a Mockingbird
Camden Williams
>it's mellow pop music You can be this reductive about anything with a melody that uses guitars. Most of the songs on In Rainbows don't even follow a verse-chorus-verse structure.
Alexander Parker
>It's not on the level of Katy Perry, so it's "experimental" Is this really what we've come to?
Nicholas Hughes
You certainly don't show it.
Brayden Kelly
Does he browse this place? How the fuck does he know Will Toledo?
Cameron Morales
>You can be this reductive about anything with a melody that uses guitars. The forms, the harmonies, the effects, it's all pop rock. Sorry we know more about music than you. >Most of the songs on In Rainbows don't even follow a verse-chorus-verse structure. woah experimental
Bentley Cruz
You can't be this clueless.
Owen Fisher
Note, I never actually called it experimental. I said that calling songs like 15 Step a mellow pop tune is reductive. But it is more experimental than the majority of Radiohead albums.
Noah White
Because that’s all so much of A Moon Shaped Pool does: it turns, and then you reset it. It turns, and you reset it. Repeat, go blue in the face, do whatever you can to find an anchor, something to grab hold of that has that same roughness, that singular feel, of this band at its best. There are pretty songs, albeit shot through with some real Fisher Price: My First Radiohead lyricism – ‘Present Tense’ is a fine case in point, a twitchy shuffle on the skins with a gloopy layer of choral vocals atop it, Yorke declaring: “I won’t stop now / I won’t slack off / Or all this love / Will be in vain.” The irony is measured in fathoms, truly. ‘Glass Eyes’ is another example of delicacy being mistaken for intimacy, for affecting introspection – its fractured piano lines and gently rising strings tick all the aesthetic boxes, and there’s certainly a couple of seconds in it where the walking listener will slow their step to really zero in on the mix. It’s beautiful, categorically, but clichéd with it – again, it’s nowhere near close to Radiohead’s own best in show when it comes to this approach, to songs like ‘Sail To the Moon’ for example or ‘Exit Music’.
John Cruz
scaruffi has been scouring the depths of music longer than you've been alive, kiddo.
Anthony Taylor
Repeating arpeggiating guitars that were inspired by minimalist composers, songs that rely heavily on the use on soundscapes created by looping guitars, linear song structures. It's not avant-garde, but it's not as conventional as OK Computer either.
Adrian Kelly
>Pitchfork BNM >"""scouring the depths of music"""
Ayden Perry
>Repeating arpeggiating guitars that were inspired by minimalist composers Are you fucking kidding me That's not fucking minimalist that's fucking ancient Arpeggios are literally as old as tonal harmony you fucking moron >songs that rely heavily on the use on soundscapes created by looping guitars Yeah that makes it way more experimental than Climbing on the Walls. >linear song structures No, they use Quaternary structures like they always have.
Oliver Smith
I'm not the one shitting the bed over disagreements, and using taste as a determining factor of someone's maturity
Easton Cook
i meant in general. it should be no surprise that scaruffi is familiar with an artist receiving a lot of buzz, given the scope of his taste.
Noah Thompson
>"Radiohead BTFO" >"Bowie's Blackstar BTFO" >AMSP and Blackstar on the best rock albums of 2016 list
Easton Long
>That's not fucking minimalist that's fucking ancient I would like you to point to spot where I implied that arpeggiation was invented by minimalist composers. The songs, which used repeating arpeggios, were inspired by minimalism, which was about repeating common chords to a steady rhythm as the songs slowly build.
Anthony Jackson
>which was about repeating common chords to a steady rhythm as the songs slowly build. Yeah dominant elevenths are very common chords. Very similar to the B minor of Weird Fishes and Jigsaw.
Oliver Ortiz
not that guy but you haven't explained how the same effect is achieved by 5 minute pop songs. a big part of minimalism's use of repetition is the length of the pieces in question
>it's a "everyone replies to a fucking tripfag" thread
Camden Davis
I don't like using this word but jesus christ what a fucking embryo
Charles Cooper
Man I didn't think anyone had that bad of taste at 19. Arguably worse than Montie.
Daniel Davis
this is obviously a joke
Brandon Carter
good LORD
that's just depressing
he managed to avoid... everything
Bentley Mitchell
>Yeah dominant elevenths are very common chords. You have a very limited grasp of what minimalism is. I was using Rodda's definition, which actually includes many of the characteristic of songs like Weird Fishes.
This is a silly distinction. First, inspired by doesn't imply sharing every characteristic with. And second, minimalism in popular music has never been about creating compositions with the depth of the works by John Adams or Steve Reich. Again, inspired by, not literally making minimalist art music.
Robert Thomas
>arcade fire >dirty projectors >fucking G R I Z Z L Y B E A R >that p4k-approved token "experimental" album
can't make this shit up
Owen Thomas
>You have a very limited grasp of what minimalism No, it's actually very comprehensive since I've you know, studied their scores and listened to them discuss their music.
Charles Sanders
My friend, I made this as a reaction to the poseurs who listed increasingly obscure and esoteric albums in order to illustrate their musical progression. To the proles who use taste as means of showing everyone how idiosyncratic they are. The RYM users and Scaruffi readers who wear music like an expensive garment and use it as a means of identifying themselves by who they aren't.
Easton Green
>i like shitty entry-level music and everyone who doesn't is just pretending!!
lmao you're a joke
Justin Smith
Like what? Name the offending "poser" albums
Caleb James
Go to the thread and look at the most recent picks on their charts
Perceiving any music as entry-level is profoundly anti-art
Ryder Ross
Good for you. That's a nice appeal.
Levi White
>Go to the thread and look at the most recent picks on their charts Name them Just any. 3 of them If you don't know them thats fine
Dylan Garcia
how do you demonstrate that a common musical element is inspired by a compositional style that isn't employed at all in the music you're discussing?
Christian Hill
Repetitive melodic patters, slowly changing chords, constant harmony, motoric rhythms. All present somewhere on the album.
Aiden Davis
>repetitive melodic patterns so, pop/rock music >slowly changing chords chord changes have been common to pop/rock music since the Beatles >constant harmony literally what >motorik rhythms i don't think you know what these are. they're featured prominently in krautrock and have a much bigger role on Kid A and Amnesiac. In Rainbows has a lot more IDM-derived percussive activity
can you explain how any of those are native to minimalism? they feature in minimalism, but the key feature of minimalism is that there's very little forward momentum. taking "inspiration" from minimalism is just a pretentious spin artists give to pop/rock albums. it is antithetical to the way that popular music works and can't be contained in 5 minute compositions.
Dylan Green
The Microphones are garbage, Tony Molina is post-pavement trash, and Neu! had one good album.
Jeremiah Perez
>two very popular bands >one flavor of the month indieshit album this doesn't seem too different from your taste
Ian Foster
This is sort-of an unwinnable discussion, when every feature of minimalism is dismissed as either not representative of the style or also present in pop music. The truth is that songs like Weird Fishes do feature long (by the standards of a 5 minute song) stretches of repetition and unhurried change.
>they're featured prominently in krautrock and have a much bigger role on Kid A and Amnesiac. In Rainbows has a lot more IDM-derived percussive activity Got that backwards my friend.
Elijah Wood
I think AMSP was an improvement over In Rainbow's formula imo.