/mg/ - Software and Hardware Minimalism General

For discussing software and hardware minimalism and minimal computing lifestyle.

>What is computing minimalism?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimalism_(computing)

>Why software minimalism?
- Fewer bugs
- Better performance
- Lower memory footprint
- Better maintainability
- Higher scalability
- Longer software lifetime
- Smaller attack surface

>List of minimal OSes and distros
ix.io/ZE2

>Minimal programs lists
Alternatives to Bloatware github.com/mayfrost/guides/blob/master/ALTERNATIVES.md
Window Managers en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_X_window_managers
Suckless suckless.org/rocks
Cat-v.org harmful.cat-v.org/software/

Minimalism is not a lack of something. It's simply the perfect amount of something.

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Other urls found in this thread:

debian.org/CD/netinst/
debian.org/releases/
wiki.debian.org/SourcesList
debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-pkgtools.en.html#s-apt-get
twitter.com/AnonBabble

Faggy here
Yay you used the good OP text!
*hugs*
uwu

Here's the WM ram usage list

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Good OP

Tbh i like this op. It's good

>VWM
interesting addition but does anyone actually use it? There's limit to how gross my desktop can actually look like

REMINDER THAT THIS IS NOT A DESKTOP THREAD

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good op

>most most minimal
lfs

>most autistic/sane minimal
openbsd, gentoo, alpine

>most hipster minimal
crux, sourcemage, guixsd, void, slackware, freebsd

>most sane minimal
debian net iso

>alpine vs openbsd
what do /mg/fags think?

IT IS BITCH

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slackware isn't hipster you dink its literally what old guys use because its been around forever and freebsd is much less "hipster" than openbsd based on market share alone

crux, sourcemage, and void make sense

How is bash not minimal enough?

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>alpine
- pros
just very minimal in general
- cons
can't think of any
>openbsd
- cons
no linux kernel, cucked license, limited hardware
- pros
minimal

Why are you not using pngquant
Minimal bandwidth

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I tried out alpine but went with something else cause it felt like I need more linux experience first.
The package manager felt really nice to use though

How can I minimise OpenSUSE?
(I can't get rid of systemd, because it is dependency for all software...)

>most most minimal
lfs

>most obscure minimal
freedos, plan 9

>most hipster minimal
crux, sourcemage, guixsd, void, freebsd

>most autistic/sane minimal
openbsd, gentoo, alpine

>most sane minimal
debian net iso

which browsers definitely don't spy on me? Firefox is ok but the HiDPI scaling is pure feces. ungoogled-chromium doesn't get updated much

Say fellas, what's happened to the ol' /fglt/? Haven't seen it up all day

are you serious? bash is a frankenstein

what is the other text editor

remove all software that depends on systemd

switch to debian(netiso)
debian.org/CD/netinst/
debian.org/releases/
wiki.debian.org/SourcesList
debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-pkgtools.en.html#s-apt-get

follow & read all the links for a perfect installation

It's probably not even the same guy unless he re-downloads his own pictures, in which case he needs to go back to r*ddit

add chromium near firefox, they're of equal size
add alpine to distros
add ash to shells

go make one
firefox or bust
nano or vim

What's a good tag editor? Can be cli, I don't mind. I want it to display *all* tag info, not just a part of it (ahem ahem ncmpcpp).

You do it. Make a 2.0 minimal guide

mp3tag through wine

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no time for love

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never actually seen any rices of sourcemage, does anyone have any pictures?

This will shit up the install, I've tried already.
Why? I'd better install Gentoo then. I need to make a wheight reduction of already installed system...

>wine
>minimalism thread
really?

How is OpenBSD on desktops?
Any good for a surfing/video/torrenting machine?

what comic is that? I've been looking for something good

beserk its just okay

weeb shit always gets boring

vifm > ranger

it was a joke.

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Yeah but just buy a thinkpad

This might be a weird place to ask but do they make proprietary premium web browsers that offer integrated and effective ad-blocking/malware protection/private browsing? I'm willing to pay money in order to get an actually great web browser since it's probably one of the most important applications on my computer.

>dwm
ok
>i3
bloat ware
>xfce
are you serious? a whole fucking DE? rope yourself
>thunar
wtf? ever heard of shell? fucking clicktards
>nano
rofl dumbo mode engage. learn vim or rope yourself

holy fuck you soyface numales can't even into proper minimalism. faggots. go suck cock.

no nigger.

im used to ranger now and for basic things i just use cp, mv etc.

the only browsers I'm aware of that feature native ad/script blocking are Brave and (maybe?) Opera. I think if you use ublock origin + umatrix you'll be fine

you fucking newfaggot. this is a very very old chart. Only day one's know this chart, newfucking faggot

the b in bash stands for bloat

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>bsd license
>cucked
holy shit you retard. i bet you prefer GPL that won't let you do anything of worth with the GNU/shitware you're using

4stats.io

MIT masterrace. gpl is also very good

a nanotard calls me newfag
noice

Is arch not minimal anymore?

bloat again shell?

How do I list all non-default packages on void?
>systemd

no its a huge mess

Debian netinst also has systemd right?

>muh lynx
>muh w3m
surf is best minimal browser

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Alright then. That's kind of weird but I guess I'll just stick with firefox+plugins. Since the web is basically dead in regards to variety in websites I was kind of hoping their was a web browser specifically designed to
>stop google from data mining
>stop youtube ads and maybe add integrated youtubedl functionality but with some sort of ip-masking so youtube can't throttle your bandwidth when you're downloading an entire playlist.
>masking internet activity by having integrated vpn's that randomly distribute user internet activity across their own vpn's or something similar.

compare debian net iso size to arch iso size

Nevermind...

If you are worrried about spyware. You gotta start with the hardware not the software

It is minimalistic, I'll give you that.

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I am thinking about installing gentoo but I am worried about compile times on my shitty laptop...
[email protected] and 12GB ram

>has bloated Linux kernel
>no cons
>lean non-bloated kernel
>con
you're in the wrong thread buddy

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>not using dmenu

[spoiler]I use the vastly superior rofi.[/spoiler]
>spoiler tag doesn't work on Sup Forums

rofi is not minimal.

but it's pretty

hey buddy

How I feel about spyware is complicated. It's an evil, but I think there are definitely extreme cases where big brother needs to just not give a fuck that breaching privacy is wrong, like counter terrorism, or stopping child sex trafficking etc. Really I'm just more concerned with my everyday internet activity getting fucked over by people trying to control the internet.

I just want to be able to watch youtube, torrent anime, and access websites like I have been for the past 10 years or whatever.

ricing is not minimal
just use gnu/linux man(debian). Stop being paranoid

I'm using void with ratpoison and I'm looking for nice browser which isn't firefox(I'm using alsa which isn't supported by it). Although I heard that Pale Meme and Basilisk support it. Now I'm using botnet chromium, any recommendations?

isn't ratpoison abandoned in favour of stumpwm?why are you using abandonware

Where is this Firefox not working with ALSA meme coming from? Did you really set it up correctly? I'm doing just fine on void

Can anyone please recommend a minimalistic wayland wm?

no

Sway, maybe?

I think it's still in development. I'm using it because it was way easier to install and offers clean, distraction-free environment. That's enough for me, I'll try stumpwm sometime, but for now I'm good.
I'll check that tomorrow, but the fact is that ALSA works everywhere besides firefox for me.

What about Qutebrowser? How learning curve looks like?

qutebrowser is bulky

Really? I thought it was really light compared to most of the rest

You think Void has stock Firefox? It can be opted out in a custom build or wrapped with apulse. Never mind it's actually more secure with pulseaudio; sandboxing is bloat.

Qutebrowser is pretty damn minimal for a functioning browser. I definitely recommend it, user.

Could you tell me the reader?

>bashing nano
go fuck yourself nigger

is paxctl (the tool to regulate pax flags with grsecurity) somehow systemd only? I can't seem to install it on hyperbola.

Tenkuu Shinpan is not your normal weeb shit and is more like Battle Royale. I always read it with Tachiyomi on Android.

10/10, time to ditch ranger guys vifm has image previews too.

>neo-weeb shit
no thanks budy

chromium fullscreen tiled

Nigga I have less than that.

>i3 with 12GB ram
Nigga you wat?

How long would it take to install gentoo stage 3 and compile some stuff like xfce and firefox?

b-but i dont know how to use vim

Propably something around few hours, like 6-8

I can vouch for pale meme on ratpoison.

Devs only fix bugs which these days are nearly inexistent, check the mailing list. Ratpoison is finished not abandoned, adding cruft to a finished project is not minimal is feature creep. Ratpoison masterrace!

lxde is lighter than xfce
pcmanfm is better than thunar
please mention mc as a file manager
please list some stacking wms like icewm

No problem, vifm is identical to ranger but less bloated, to exit type :q!, that's all you need to know. Just take time to configure it.

> OS:debian
> WM: a ratpoison style dwm fork
> Editor: Emacs
> Shells: Eshell (Emacs), mksh
> File Manager: Dired (Emacs)
> Email: mu4e (Emacs)
> IRC: erc (Emacs)
> Terminal emulator: St, Emacs term
> Process viewer: proced (Emacs)
> Media Player: mpv
> Music library: emms (Emacs)
> Agenda+study: Org (Emacs)
> Web browser: GNU Icecat
> Network manager: wicd

What do you think anons?

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>he uses debian instead of a true FSF approved distro

>> WM: a ratpoison style dwm fork
Link or config pls

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I'm sure this has been answered a thousand times but why is Arch not on the list?