>painting with drops >Sup Forums appreciates the fanboy and chum chum influence and likes it >many claiming it'll be the modern pet sounds >pitchfork drops their 6.2 >Sup Forums immediately pans it and now thinks it's the shittiest album of the year
why can't you guys form your opinions instead of being blatant drones?
Sup Forums recently decided they don't like anco it's very sad because they are the best band to ever walk the earth
Robert Robinson
i hated it at first but it grew on me, god damn did it grow on me great driving album
Eli Richardson
I never liked it. The people claiming it was OG pets sounds were just retarded.
James Lopez
>tfw when i am one of the people who called this pet sounds >tfw when still decent 8, even with the aftermath
come at me
Brody Adams
not like its the first time
Samuel Sanchez
Floridada is literally the only good song on the album. The rest is either unlistenable or just white noise. Try to prove me wrong. >inb4 "durr stupid normie you arent allowed to like the most popular song on the album"
Mason Clark
I liked some of it at first and then I really hated it once I realized it had no emotional core and was just elevator music
>>Sup Forums appreciates the fanboy and chum chum influence What does that even mean?
Nathan Martinez
summerkid meme
Cameron Harris
not even listened to it yet and I saw them live this year :^)
they were bad btw
Brandon Cruz
it's a good album most of the songs are good but when it missteps those songs are actually some of their worst ever floridada is not a standout and gets boring pretty quickly panda is actually goat on this album, summing the wretch is great i don't know if people missed the point of the hocketing or if they're just stupid people complaining about 'farty-synths' or similair are literally children
Alexander Harris
Floridada is a great song.
Isaiah Gray
what's the point of the hocketing?
Angel Cruz
it's supposed to be disorienting and add to their take on translating cubist/dadaistic ideas to their music
Henry Reed
this is obviously completely anecdotal-- i liked the album upon release but never thought it would really challenge any of my established anco favorites. i think fundamentally it's very good, as are all their records, but it's their worst album so far. i'd give it about a 7.5 if i were pressed for a rating.
for me, at least, it goes to show how consistent they are. i think their next work could be really fascinating, and i'm hoping they'll have deakin on board
Asher Jackson
ah, i can dig that
Kevin Parker
>translating cubist/dadaistic ideas to their music would you have come to that conclusion yourself if not for the press release/interviews they did stating this fact? whatever their goals were, they weren't translated successfully since like 80% of people weren't able to get what they were going for in the final product without the help of extramusical content.
Brayden Rodriguez
you dont know the essence of the fanboy and chum chum if you werent in the original thread
you have no idea how retardely i laughed when i saw the comparison of PW, a record i had listened to a lot, and this strange show which i had never heard of, so l looked up the theme song and i just completely lost my shit
Aaron Baker
no, but that doesn't mean they didn't achieve it. it's maybe a little obtuse for listeners, but i think they achieved exactly what they wanted. the themeing makes sense throughout the entire album if you're aware of it. how could you make the idea clearer from a listeners perspective save explicitly spelling it out?
Dylan Gutierrez
why does no one talk about/ notice how political this album is??
Hunter Ward
I love Floridada & Golden Gals, what the fuck?
Camden Rodriguez
It has nothing to do with pitchfork. This shit happens because Sup Forums has a tendency to just hype shit up to unrealistic levels, then become exceedingly bitter when those unrealistic expectations are not met. Its why the reception of PW went from 10/10 thwir best album to 0/10 a huge piece of shit when really a 6.2 is pretty accurate for this album. It wont be remembered like most of their other albums.
Jose Rivera
>i don't know if people missed the point of the hocketing or if they're just stupid this was mostly what I was referring to. people aren't stupid if they don't read a bands press releases. and just because there is a concept behind a particular aspect of an album doesn't mean it works. the issue of the way the hocketing is executed is that it completely fragments or obfuscates the sense of melody, which on top of already angular and "sharp" synth arrangements and tightly coiled drum patterns leads to a very claustrophobic and tiring listen. there's no contrast. if you want to argue that they were going for a cubist route then I say they failed there, because although they paint a picture of the microscopic aspects of cubist art - where the pieces at first clash and make something unrecognizable or "disorienting", they never pull back and unveil the broad aspect of it - the tracks never coalesce into a picture that suddenly makes scene and forms a cohesive whole while looking at it from a macroscopic view.
Austin Hall
this
Caleb Young
I wasn't that hyped up about it and was still disappointed. This is their only release so far to have a few songs that are completely forgettable.
Jose Morris
no thanks you most definitely have shit stains from improper wiping
Jose Ross
>...it completely fragments or obfuscates the sense of melody... >the tracks never coalesce into a picture that suddenly makes scene and forms a cohesive whole i would say they do, though- when you notice the actual melody that the hocketing fragments.
Cameron Gonzalez
and the stupid part of "i don't know if people missed the point of the hocketing or if they're just stupid" was directed at the people who complain about the hocketing in the same way as they do "farty synths"
Logan Martin
i just don't find the melodies to be very strong or particularly memorable. partly because of the hocketing, but mostly just because the song-writing is weak.
again, maybe they just don't enjoy those facets of the album despite the fact they they were supposedly imbued with some meaning or concept. i don't understand how that's "stupid" - that's literally taste.
James Baker
i think this can be chalked up to being the first release they didn't tour beforehand
Elijah Reed
Kill yourself
Adrian Johnson
you're retarded
Justin Rodriguez
It's a mediocre album and Deakin BTFO AnCo with Sleep Cycle. And i don't give a shit about p4k
Ethan Sullivan
>tfw I actually liked the album in its entirety
Yeah, my opinion of this album will probably change within the next year, but I still haven't got sick of it.
Jayden Hill
Vertical, Recycling, and Spilling Guts are some of the best songs they've ever done
Ethan Jenkins
the album is and always was utter shite
Ryder Cooper
Same here. Its not as good as the albums before it, but I still love it. I can see how a lot of people hate it though.
Ryder Lewis
floridada is great you gayniggerfaggot
Joseph Adams
The Pet Sounds thing is literally always a meme. Nobody means it seriously.
Ryan Williams
You are a fucking retard.
Hocus Pocus is sonically interesting, progresses with variation that makes sense but still surprises, and it has that great sequential modulation in the chorus that still manages to be catchy. That's just the next song on the album.
I'm with you OP. People that like SJ and MPP should at the very least kind of like PW. It's creative, distinct from their earlier sounds as always, great production, committed to a sonic theme, and the songwriting is literally just as solid as it ever was. Maybe Panda overplayed his hand on the hocketing, but that should only really ruin like three songs at most, because you you ubiquitously hate it it's just a bias, not a critique. Some of the lyrical content is a little too pointed at a political thing. But anybody claiming that this album is poppier than their other stuff isn't really analyzing the music, and just using the term pejoratively. Anybody that thinks this is "zany" as opposed to just playful was never truly on board for AnCo, and only ever liked them because they were told they should. PW isn't their best album by a long shot, but saying MPP and SJ are amazing and PW is garbage is demonstrably stupid.
Brody Cox
I don't even understand what's not to get about it. It's just a distinct sonic technique that isn't used very often. The added conceptual content just makes it a little more interesting, it works on its own, for at least the tracks that are well written. I don't really care for a few of them, but it has nothing to do with the hocketing.
Ryder Watson
The production is incredibly clear. If you can't wrap your head around the melody because of the hocketing you either need to listen to it more or you actually might be bad at music literacy.
Isaac Morgan
Pet Sounds makes no sense at all, but it is a decent album. I would even say Feels has as many misses or at least subpar songs on it that PW does, and everybody gives it a pass. Same goes for STG, which people romanticize despite its consistently redundant, predictable songs with absolutely terrible production.
Jaxon Long
i never said the production wasn't clear and i never said that there was no melody - just that it was fragmented and slightly disjointed. i get that that was what they were going for but i didn't find it appealing, especially since i don't find the melodies to be particularly strong. boys latin was a track where it was executed much better because the melody was more compelling imo.
>I don't even understand what's not to get about it that user was talking about the hocketing on a conceptual level though and so that's what i was responding to. i think it's understandable that ppl wouldn't necessarily get that they were going for a cubist aesthetic if they were listening "blind" and without the band elucidating on their intentions.
as for how it works on a pure sonic level, well that's up to taste. some ppl will find it to be a cool technique and others will find it grating. i belong in the latter camp, especially since the album was inundated with it.