Police are using dead criminals’ fingerprints to access iPhones
>Separate sources close to local and federal police investigations in New York and Ohio, who asked to remain anonymous as they weren’t authorized to speak on record, said it was now relatively common for fingerprints of the deceased to be depressed on the scanner of Apple iPhones, devices which have been wrapped up in increasingly powerful encryption over recent years. For instance, the technique has been used in overdose cases, said one source. In such instances, the victim’s phone could contain information leading directly to the dealer.
That's what they get for relying on biometrics, let alone apple.
Cameron Roberts
Your drug dealer?
Oliver Jackson
Corpses have no rights.
Christian Roberts
Oh noooooo, the person committing a crime might get arrested!!!!!!
Daniel Hughes
Do you have any rights after death? Why is privacy any differemt?
Justin Reyes
>let alone apple >phone opened on biometric scan, exactly as intended O-okay, user...
Joshua Gomez
If you want to be feel good you can just take a photo and make a fingerprint copy. Shit works well even at range and is a decade old. They were just practical and saved some tax money.
Anthony Torres
>biometrics are safer than a password No one with a triple digit IQ ever said this. Biometric identification is for convenience, not security.
John Bell
Well, your family has some right over your corpse and property. But the corpse is just that.
Adam Powell
You dont. You have no rights to privacy after death.
Cameron Thomas
>inb4 living dead is a thing in future
Jeremiah Long
>>biometrics are safer than a password said no one
Connor Flores
You can fuck me in the nose after my brain shuts down for all I care.
Carter Martin
That's what you get for using biometrics for authentication instead of identification.
Aaron Diaz
so could anything the government violate the 1st amendment and remove anything you've written?
>phone opened on biometric scan It isn't called biometric if the scanned sample isn't alive you retard. Educate yourself. That's why actual biometric sensors don't work with a cut finger or hand.
Cameron Bennett
Bullshit Touch and face ID can be used to open a dead person s phone
Thomas Bell
>selling and consuming drugs should be a crime you're the part of the problem, retard.
Joseph Thompson
biometrics have always been able to be compelled from living people
the law treats them like a key, not like a password which is covered under the 5th amendment
but the easy way to stop this is to shut down your phone when the cops bust in, that way it reverts to needing a password or pin to unlock
Jack Nelson
>iPhone 6 I forgot it was still 2014, you forget that with the iPhone 7 came the 2nd generation of Touch ID Source that isn't the NY Post or equiv.?
Gavin Scott
Or just don't do anything criminally unlawful or otherwise sensitive on a phone. Why is that so hard to understand. They are not secure devices period.
Nolan Kelly
The only difference between an alive and a dead body for a non shit fingerprint scanner (not Apple's case afaik) is the current and the temperature, and both can be easy spoofed with a thin prothesis.
Dominic Richardson
iCADAVERS BTFO
Nicholas Thompson
I had, HAD 3 cousins who didn't grow out of middle school so they kept smoking weed into college. One day they suddenly started getting ill but kept smoking pot like always (they all did bongs together on the weekends). Anyway one day one of them starts coughing blood so they go to the ER and are placed in the ICU. Unfortunately they got septic shock and all died a few days later.
>tl;dr Recreational drugs always pose a risk to human health and in the case of my family members it made them too stupid to stop (they smoked since high school) once they got the flu so it killed them.
>Recreational drugs always pose a risk to human health So what? It's your personal freedom to do whatever you want as long as it doesn't harm someone else. You're literally saying we should ban alcoholic drinks. Why not ban coffee and cigarettes while we're at it? Why not make it a law that people shouldn't eat dirt otherwise they'll be jailed? Why not make a law that forbids eating sugar or fast food?
Benjamin Wood
Not one you are arguing with. Also I agree with you... but, I live in social welfare country. These alcoholics, smokers, and drug addicts (we have wery few of those) end up wasting time of doctors and wasting taxes paid by all (and they pay wery little tax since their income is shit).
Robert Brown
Freedom is more important commie.
James Hall
It's not the same as criminalizing drugs. Stopping stupid people from harming themselves has always been the goal of instating governments in society. The only question is how far should the government go to keep people and yeah we could reduce obesity and DUIs and whatnot by implementing laws that forbid the things that cause that but then we'd all be essentially animals in cages.
However putting laws in place to punish those who consume recreational drugs should never be phased out because of the amount of short and long term damage it causes to people especially teens. And like said it puts on strain on society to waste resources on people that would have never needed help in the first place if they had never touched recreational drugs. If drugs suddenly became legal hospitals would have day-long wait times and the national guard would have to step in to help police states. It would be chaos.
In the end you have to remember most men can barely compete with the intelligence of a mouse.
Oliver Foster
They also get your fingerprints while you are asleep...dont you trust me? Well try to PUT A FINGER IN YOUR ASS.
Charles Cruz
>freedom is unimportant because some people are dumb Then do a public education campaign like around smoking instead of making everything illegal. Or add taxes on to pay for your "free" healthcare.
Completely agree. Except for commie part. I did not choose this systemd. And there doesn't seem to be completely un-commied countries around.
Sebastian Turner
Lol
William Edwards
>>freedom is unimportant because some people are dumb Except it is but like everything too much of a good thing can be bad.
>Then do a public education campaign like around smoking instead of making everything illegal. It's already been done and it hasn't done jack shit. In fact informing teens of how dangerous things are only seems to coax them into doing it more.
>Or add taxes on to pay for your "free" healthcare. Now THAT'S just straight up socialism which is worse than communism.
Nathan Cruz
Don't worry, they don't waste too much time. The doctors always tell them to fuck off and stop smoking unless they're literally near death. Also, they don't waste tax money (at least not most of it) since they're also the part of the economy. All the money they spend on booze and cigarettes is also taxed.
>Stopping stupid people from harming themselves has always been the goal of instating governments in society The whole point of a government is to stop people from harming each other, not harming themselves. If a government does anything more it's a commie/totalitarian state. >It's not the same as criminalizing drugs Alcohol and caffeine are drugs. Sugar is more hazardous to health than some drugs, especially since it's the main reason people are overweight. Cut all sugar out of your diet but keep consuming the same amount of calories and you'll get twice as healthy and won't get fat. >puts on strain on society to waste resources on people that would have never needed help in the first place if they had never touched recreational drugs. This would only apply to socialist countries. And isn't entirely correct. People are currently wasting money on keeping retarded people alive. >If drugs suddenly became legal hospitals would have day-long wait times False and irrelevant. Teens are getting morbidly drunk each day and die from overdrinking every year. There'd be a similar number of deaths. You could always make a law stating that drunk or high people won't be given medical help.
>informing teens of how dangerous things are only seems to coax them into doing it more. Survival of the fittest. Anyone who clearly doesn't want to live has a right to harm themselves. >freedom is unimportant Stop posting.
Andrew Sullivan
>Separate sources close to local and federal police investigations in New York and Ohio, who asked to remain anonymous as they weren’t authorized to speak on record
Harming yourself harms other people long term. A mother smoking crack won't be a good mother, will she?
You're right but the damage those things do people and the ones around them isn't the same as crack.
Correct, keeping the weak alive is never going to benefit society long term. Evolution has always killed off the stupid/unfit/sick to leave room for better organism to thrive.
Michael Howard
True more or less. They only waste money when they get cancer and such. And my small country has limited doctors and medicaments and equipment to deal with that... And their bad habits do pay into economy (discounting cigarettes and alcohol they bring from my neighbour poland...). But they buy cheapest cancer inducings cigs and crappiest alcohol because of those taxes. Also I really hate paying insane tax on the little of alcohol that I use because of them. I would really like full capitalist country where they would have to pay out of their own pockets more.
Dylan Collins
>MY 3 RETARDED COUSINS DIED FROM BEING RETARDED, IT MUST BE THAT DEVIL LETTUCE
Retards are retards, with or without drugs. Your downie cousins died from not getting help with a potential life threatening sickness. Your irrational thought process makes me think your whole family is retarded.
Joseph Reed
Most of my family member have middle class homes and graduated college in less than 4 years. My cousins did okay in middle school as well but it all went downhill in highschool.
The devil lettuce made them retarded and it apparently made you retarded as well if you think it didn't.
Jeremiah Gonzalez
Having a middle class home and getting a degree that anyone can achieve with a little effort does not cancel out retardation. Your cousins were retarded before and after weed or any drug they wanted to use
Robert Reed
>the datamining proceeds after physical death
Samuel Powell
>proceeds gets more involved Hey OP here just wanted to say you're fucking retarded I am hereby using my authority as original poster (OP herein after) to ban you from posting in my thread. Weed did not make your brothers retarded, that is called a coincidence. And even if it did make them retarded, what is your excuse? Second hand smoke?
Julian Perez
OP again >My cousins did okay in middle school as well but it all went downhill in highschool. Surely this has nothing to do with the fact that everyone changes when becoming a teen? Maybe being in middle school hid your genetic retardation and then when their life got tougher it showed.
Carter Morris
You make me wish all drugs were legal
Jonathan Sanchez
this
Ian Williams
Every single time you post, you remind me age is just a number and jail is just a room.
Jacob Turner
>my cousins died of weed
Are you literally retarded?
Parker Rodriguez
you can disable touch id.
David Murphy
the conversation started on recreational weed
not to mention crack addicts don't need to be put in jail, they need rehabilitation. jail just helps to cement their spiral to rock bottom faster and makes it harder for them to recover
Jason Reed
Drugs not used for health issues should be banned, that's a fact
Alexander Stewart
Stupid worthless potheads, I hope you all get your shit laced and die.
Waiting for the first case of someone cutting off a cellphone owner's finger or hand in order to access it to happen. Then the next landmark is gouging an eyeball.
Saying this only effects drug dealers is like saying only drug dealers use phones. Maybe someone is killed, they open their phone, and find you talking about how your employer is doing shady shit. Maybe the cops are paid off by your employer. Now they have a reason to go after you. Or maybe you say something that the current governing party disagrees with, and they find it on your dead friend's phone. Its easy to blow it off when they bring up one of the four horsemen of the information apocalypse, but security means you have to think like people are out to get YOU instead.
Chase Ward
>its bad for you so we should ban it
Nathaniel Peterson
no, they're using dead peoples fingerprints for their parallel construction
the most valuable thing for intelligence agencies is to make it seem like things are secure. if they were able to get round any phone security do you think they would tell anyone?
when enigma was cracked do you think the allies would be shouting about it?
Parker Price
retarded people wil hurt themselves, making dangerous substances legal only gets rid of retards
Chase Foster
Literally everything poses a risk to Hyman health.
James Morris
have you been to mexico recently?
Noah Mitchell
Cartels are only that powerful because drugs are illegal and government corruption is rampant from local to federal levels
Make them legal and tax it and they lose a tremendous amount of their monetary flow, allowing proper government to be put in place without the cartels being able to kill whoever runs for office
Wyatt Martin
This.
Xavier Ramirez
I pay all the taxes in Russia as individual entrepreneur and I also smoke weed. We have public medicine and commercial medicine. Any of these will save your ass if things turn really bad. USA just sucks. Btw, never got any problem with weed even though I've been smoking for 3 years. Plus weed is not legal in Russia.
Chase Evans
Reported to the KGB.
Ryder Hughes
faggot whiteknight
Brayden Foster
FSB*
Connor Brooks
>front side bus >2011
Lucas Jenkins
Burial or cremation
Jaxson Walker
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Chase Clark
The Sup Forums archives are safe user. Chill
Jonathan Cook
Honestly i think fast food should be treated like cigs. Taxed heavily and not be sllowed to market towards children
Jose Jones
the underlying thought behind the taxation fits, doesn't work like its intended but it does give the government a bunch of dollaroos
Nolan Perez
Price drives decisions. I would also agree with directing that income directly into our healthcare system
Brayden Jenkins
>biometrics are safer than a password Said no one ever Biometrics are just more convenient.
Samuel Reyes
Spotted the loser who relies on ad hominem attacks in lieu of intellectual effort.
Samuel Turner
it happens when you fail to replace bong water for months weed didn't kill them, sloth did
Ian Baker
Spotted the loser who makes 9 an hour selling electronics Better go toke up before your next shift broooooo
Aaron Clark
Lmao, the study they're sensationalizing never even made it into a peer-reviewed journal. That shit's bogus.
Aaron Bailey
I don't even smoke, bro. I'm in grad school for computational neuroscience, and this shit comes up a lot. Drugs and their effects on the brain, believe it or not, can be of great interest to people who haven't even found the time to play with them.
In my years of research and study, I haven't come across a shred of evidence that would support your outrageous claims.
Joseph Stewart
>using android >turn off phone >fingerprint only works after inserting password on first unlock after boot.
Nicholas Gray
STOP USING IDENTIFICATION AS THE ONLY FORM OF SECURITY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Do you even know what the fuck sepsis is, dude? Your cousin died from self-neglect, not using marijuana, which is probably more representative of the failures of the public health system than their own.