do any software developers actually use a wm?
or are they just a meme?
Do any software developers actually use a wm?
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they pretty much all use a wm. I don't know any that use a purely cli environment
people who do everything in emacs
professional fizzbuzz developers maybe. not actual programmers
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Most real devs are using full featured IDE’ in a full featured DE. No one wants to use basic VIM in urxvt, it just takes to much time configuring and there is no real benefit. NEET ricers do it though because time is like air to them.
nah, you are wrong, most devs who use IDEs are noobs and idiots, i never seen a pro using an ide
>implying emacs isn't a wm
Except for everyone at Google using eclipse or netbeans
Wrong. Many real devs regularly use vim. You also see this in presentations and all that, easy to find on YT etc.
Not too few use simple WM as well, but it doesn't matter a great deal.
I use vim. A lot of programmers I respect use an IDE. It really just comes down to personal preference.
Although you will tend to see more skilled users on the vim side, just because it repels normies.
Post the configs pls
It's beautiful
tiling wm's are retarded. terminals should be 80 columns, always. displays should be 4:3 or 5:4 for desktops and 4:3 or 16:10 for laptops. anything breaking these rules is heresy.
Oh god
any reasoning for this
or is just memes
>not wrapping lines in an email message
What a fucking animal, that pancake guy.
80 columns has been the standard for decades. it helps readability and ensures everybody can view it without messy line wrapping. it also helps prevent run-on functions with too much nesting.
humans read top to bottom even in east asian languages these days. the only time widescreen would be helpful would be if you were reading in the classical east asian "scroll" style. wider screens make you scroll more often or stretch lines way beyond the optimal reading length. they say somewhere around 75 characters per line is ideal, anything more and it actually slows down reading and hurts comprehension. even movies are filmed and edited for a 4:3 ratio and nothing happens outside of the center of the screen. try taping off a 4:3 box in the middle of you screen sometime and watching a movie. nothing outside of the box ever matters. widescreen is a total meme.
When I went to a programming Meetup a few months ago, the guy presenting that week (who worked for some tech firm nearby) was using i3 on Ubuntu. I don't see why at least some wouldn't since twms can be pretty easy to use and take maybe one rainy afternoon or two to configure.
I'd say most just use whatever DE though
i work and i use vim
I Use i3 at work if you mean twm
It is a standard, it isn't enforced universally.
Some languages are too verbose to be able to realistically follow it (looking at you c++).
Just something like a function implementation in c++ have a return type, class name, function name and arguments and the only thing you split is the arguments because some things have too many inputs to be readable on a widescreen.
I agree that it should be as short as possible, but I don't agree that everything should be 80c wide.
That just encourages short names which lead to bad names and code which is hard to decipher.
Coming up with names and reading other peoples code is already hard.
This is wrong. Many devs use a modern variant of vim, and their vim configurations are mindfully crafted over time as their careers develop.
emacs is an OS
Yeah, that's why vim was second most used ide in questionnaire by iso cpp
Varies by language and style.
When I write Elm and haskell I use vim.
When I write js and scala I use intelllij, the expensive one to help me with type annotations and shit to make sense of the complexity.
i write in cmd and i use a full featured windows manager.
Using a tiling wm on a 16:9 display lets me put three ~90 column terminals next to each other, so I don't have to switch between workspaces that often.
the 3 most senior developers i know all use default installs of their os and program in vim. i don't think that really has much to do with them being good at their jobs though, seems more closely correlated to age.
My team lead (15 years of experience) uses dwm
i was a software dev until i3
now i tune my desktop 24/7 im out of wallpapers
Every pro (as in person paid to write code) I've ever met has used a very common and boring OS and DE. Windows or Ubuntu with Unity/KDE.
I think programmers aren't even that interested in their operating systems or hardware. To them it's just a tool, and they have more important shit to do than rice.
this
also what bar is that
are you new?
Once I get back from Arch and ricing my desktop to the Debian with KDE I don't spend my time for useless bullshit (ricing) and just do work with DevOps toolset and started some serious programming (practical, not fizzbuzz shit).
Really struggling with that 'cd' command, aren't cha?
its a klossy reference you dummy
On Wednesdays we kode.
Didn't ring a bell but I've definitely seen this before.
I'm trying to download pywal for rxvt-unicode via
$ sudo pacman -S python-pywal
And I keep getting 'target not found'.
Fucking why?
meme
it's much easier to switch windows with just super [gnome shell] or super-space [in openbox, for example] than super-arrows like in i3, also dwm is fucking horrible to use
because its in the AUR repo you moron!
Ah okay, I had trouble understanding how to work with the AUR a few days ago, but now things are clicking.
>super-arrows
>arrows
fag
Just install yaourt, don't be an autist.
>homerow
same thing
don't listen to install trizen
what the actually fuck
>are you new?
fucking alpha-geeks I swear, just tell him...
Carmack uses Visual Studio
I pretty much exclusively use i3, so yeah, I guess?
Following this homeboy's guide
briancaffey.github.io
The guide is definitely not perfect, though
don't listen to or use pacaur
don't listen to use aurutils
>from gnome to i3
>pacman -Rs gnome
>pacman -Syu i3-wm
>guide
fucking plebs don't do that! ignore this fool!
download the AUR file and use makepkg
then install it using the default manager
Why can't half the polybar users on this site ever fucking center their text properly? It triggers me every time.
Add ';1' to the end of your font declaration and see what that does for you.
na, i don't fell like updating those images, maybe if i switch back to Illya setup... but just maybe
>has a gorillion aur deps
>[autism intensifies]
I get paid 200k a year to use Rider
I use JS and Java on Windows so I do everything in NetBeans for java and webstorm or vscode for JS
q: how do you know if somebody uses Arch?
a: don't worry, they'll tell you!
nice joke xdxdxd
I work as a programmer and use emacs fairly often (over ssh) even though I mainly use sublime on my own machine (which was a mbp)
Anyway I got a new notebook, not a mac, and I installed arch on it. I tried i3 for a week because I bought the productivity meme, learned all the shortcuts and shiet but... it felt restrictive. It was like my arms were tied and I was trying to control the computer by jumping through pointless hoops.
Switched to KDE. Much better.
mad as hell
Isn't it just pacman -S package. The yu would do a full update, including updating kernel and such?
What's your point?
Another Elm developer!
Nice, not many of us here..
What fucking planet do you live on?
Friendly reminder kde, cinnamon, and xfeces can all tile windows. Can't remember if gnome does.
thats the fucking reason why google dies, I bet these trannies also fucked the android os up.
I use vim in a normie tier stacking wm. Fluxbox.
sure, I use i3.
But I don't use it's tiling features often, I prefer many desktops mixed with tabs.
I do use the scratchpad though.
Professional developers use tools and operating systems which are company standard.