Is KDE the most functional desktop environment...

Is KDE the most functional desktop environment? It's 2018 and the Gnome people still haven't figured a file picker yet when KDE had one from the get-go.

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>Functional
>It doesn't include a calculator in his own "distro"
Better use something else

> hmm, I need to calculate something real quick
> let me just open a separate program instead of just asking a process that's already running what the answer is

Not an excuse for granny

Granny has no trouble with the concept of "Computer, what's 3+8?" She'd probably prefer that to navigating an app menu to find the calculator.

open a terminal type python. There you go.

You don't know granny
>python
Disgusting

You can download calculator separately but not file picker dialog with thumbnails.

bar has calculator built in

>not installing a calculator for granny
What a lazy grandson.

Granny can drag and drop from the file manager but can't download a calculator if she is offline, so, why can't KTards just include it?

granny's eyesight is terrible, she needs the big ass clock

Were you abused by your uncle who was never given a calculator by his parents and that's what you latched onto to cope?

Granny can't into touchpad gestures, so why remove a hardware right click for trackpads?

It's literally included in the taskbar as a widget.

>a widget
the current state of cucKDE

t. Gnomelet

I don't know what you're talking about, I just type math in krunner and get my answers

Not an argument

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>being this angry about a graphical user interface

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what is with those minimize/maximize icons? that looks like shit. why does dolphin look like shit?

also i don't give a fuck about a file picker

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Minimize icon is an arrow pointing down because the windows will go down into the taskbar, the maximize icon is an arrow pointing up because the window will fill up the screen.

Looks like shit.

sounds like he knows granny better than you

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I really like deepin

I've really enjoyed Budgie myself. Fast and pretty.

KDE users can kalculate in real time in their larger and whiter brains

That's dumb. What if I have my panel on top of the screen? This is why you should just have - and +.

ugly as hell mouse icons and animation
and custom themes for them never working well

whole thing looks ugly

Don't like the default? Change it. KDE isn't going to try to shove a foot up your ass for daring to disagree with the UI designers.

Should've known this would be another calculator thread

>implying KDE Neon == KDE
KDE does have shit defaults, such as Baloo, nonglobal Dolphin settings littering dot files everywhere, single click to open directories, not including a calculator in Neon, etc.
But that's the thing about KDE, at least the user can change this shit, or a distros can release a distribution of KDE with sane defaults
GNOME has slightly saner defaults, but is still monumentally retarded with no way to change the retarded settings without hacking with patched libraries or sketchy extensions that they are going to break anyways with the next release of GTK/GNOME
If you want a good noobie distro for KDE with more sane defaults, use OpenSUSE Tumbleweed instead of KDE Neon.

Who are these semen daemons?

why do you have to pit them against each other? can't they just coexist?

P.S: makes more sense on a multi-client workstation, but some of us are capricious. we have gnome days, and we have kde days...

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good lord the bloat

Or, you could just use Windows like a sane person.

Budgie is decent too and its also switching to Qt

i havent even read this thread but i am typically a lightweight gui person, tty, i3, openbox, xfce... but recently have come to really like kde. i use it on my work machines.

this is me too, i see no calc then i open python, nbd.

Thing is, Neon was meant to be a "minimal" only-shit-the-user-needs-ootb distro. If the user needs a calculator, they can easily install it via Discover or the terminal

Granny should give up and die, it is not worth living, if you cant even install calculator.

>single click opens folder
be gone shill

Its more functional than gnome but thats not saying much since gui file selection on linux seems to be still stuck in the dark ages.

Functional? Yes.

The major issue I have with KDE is its piss-poor design. It just looks like it was thrown together in a day with no thought behind the layout.

haah waaw

You can change that, pajeet.

looks 2005 man

It's superior. It's faster and single clicking never served a purpose anyways.

>no search function
Why are linuxettes such retards?

Imagine being this dumb

>here comes the calculator mongoloid.

Single click has a very clear purpose. You select the directory or file and can even select multiple ones. Then you can modify or move them in some way.

>KDE
>Gnome

What is with these threads about bloated as shit DE's?

Features that people use are not bloat, though. They try to pick those to be installed out of the box.

I meant in terms of memory consumption but okay.
A tiling window manager with a TUI is the way to go.

>still thinks drag and drop is an excuse

You can change it in system settings. It's KDE.

>options are bloat

Fuck you gnome retard.

>Better use something else
I agree. If you can't figure out how to install kcalc or qalculate on your own then you're probably better off using something else.

Nice.

Why this claim? Look at neon.kde.org/
>KDE neon is the intersection of these needs using a stable Ubuntu long-term release as its core, packaging the hottest software fresh from the KDE Community ovens. Compute knowing you have a solid foundation and enjoy the features you experience in the world's most customisable desktop.
>Compute knowing you have a solid foundation
>Compute
NO CALCULATOR
????

Honestly, though, the most silly thing about the KDE Neon is that it doesn't even make it clear what it is above the fold. That page should start with "KDE Neon is a GNU/Linux distribution based on Ubuntu featuring the latest KDE packages" or something similar. Instead it doesn't even make it clear that KDE Neon is some kind of desktop OS.

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>You select the directory or file and can even select multiple ones
You can do this without single clicking on a single folder.
>Then you can modify or move them in some way.
Right click. Drag and drop. Ctrl+X.

dolphin is trash. can't even "open in new window"

How would you do it? And Ctrl+X is not really relevant as that's step two. I'm talking about selecting. You can Ctrl+X with the double-click to open way as well. You have to have some easy way to tell which file you are handling before doing anything to it. I don't want to accidentally open the files, just select them. Clicking them is very natural for this, which makes the claim "single clicking never served a purpose" false.

>>options are bloat
Never said it was bloat you moron, but is retarded

>I'm talking about selecting
You don't need to select a file if you're just moving a single file. If you're moving more then you'd drag select them and ctrl+left click on any other files you also want to move.

Developer here, it's slow as fuck and buggy

Fuck KDE

KDE is the only DE with a calculator.
Everything that can't do these things is not worth using in 2013+5.

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Expression evaluator is not good enough for granny, she needs a normal calculator where she can use her numpad more efficient

If she's stupid enough for that then she'd use a real calculator or a smartphone.

so, with KDE a phone is mandatory? one more reason to use something else

People who can't figure out how to type stuff and get an answer without the physical representation of the numbers and a + sign don't use a calculator.
There is no reason to strawman such a thing.
It is like saying no person would ever be able to figure out how to use excel when the majority of office work is nothing but.

Cinnamon is the perfect Gnome 2/Gnome 3 balance.
QT fags deal with it.

can't KTards just include a normal calculator? why all the pathetic mental gymnastics to justify that stupid desition?

If you're too dumb to install a calculator or to install a distro without one then that's your problem. Perhaps you shouldn't be using Linux.

Worst meme of March. No one gives a shit about grannies, most of them still use Windows Vista.

If you don't have the common sense to include a calculator in your own "distro" maybe you shouldn't be creating one

Like this one?
Seems kinda pointless

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Alienating granny won't help to the Linux adoption

Yes, and KTards don't include (and refuse to do so) in their own "distro" Neon

They’re all going to die soon anyway.

What do you mean "include"?
It is in the software repository, just install it if you want one.
Or are you simultaneously saying that your grandmother is installing neon on her own while not having the english skills to install a calculator?
Because neon doesn't include a lot of stuff by default, who cares?
They don't even include their text editor

My job requires me to use an advanced calculator often. So no matter if I use gnome or kde I still end up using qalculate. I do prefer KDE for about anything else as well. People act like the majority gtk software can outperform qt software...? Noo, no!

not him, but i think at install there should just be radial buttons:
>granny install
>average install
>power user install
>minimalist install

then it runs everything for you and you are free to do whatever the fuck you want after that desu.

Also, all the grannies I know have no problem with excel, at least for basic math. IT's usually all the toolbars and buttons that confuse them, not typing in the fucking equation. Stop exploiting grannies for your pathetic straw-man.

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Not included a basic program as default in your own distro is retarded, making averyone to download it is even more retarded.

but minimalist-fags won't like it if it IS included.

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>whoreposting

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It is a basic program, but it is not something they think the majority needs or wants.
Same with the text editor. I can't for the life of me imagine a scenario where you don't want a text editor, but then not everyone is a programmer.

>most functional
xf

>basic program
what basic program do you use?

But why can't KTards just incluide it? what if granny is offline? how is she going to install it?

>but it is not something they think the majority needs
who doens't need one? are you a NEET?
a calculator

if granny is offline how did she get her iso? If you were installing for granny off an flash drive(assuming she can't for some reason type the equation)
>nice job ignoring that counterargument btw
and you know she wants a calculator, why not bring that with you too?

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but why can't KTards just include it?

No silly, I use the good calculator that does come with the DE, I don't have time to launch calculators left and right.

Some people genuinely don't. I know a lot of people that just type simple math into google desu. Opening the calculator is just extra work, and it takes time to slowly enter in the math with GUI buttons.

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but you are not granny
>Opening the calculator is just extra work
oh STFU you useless NEET, go get a job

>but why can't KTards just include it?
why do you need it? See
>
Why can't you just install it if you really want it so badly?

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lol, is that really your argument? It is way faster to just type in the open url bar of a browser. Also, how does being efficient and not a moron make me a NEET... you filthy NEET.
And yes, it is that easy: lmgtfy.com/?s=d&iie=1&q=(10+300)/50

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>a calculator
I do
>calc

Really? You don't just bang wolfram for that shit?

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