Sup Forums I finally plunked down the cash for a real NAS, should I use RAID 1 or RAID 6? It's 12 drives. I/O speeds aren't a major concern, I'm more worried about losing the data.
Sup Forums I finally plunked down the cash for a real NAS, should I use RAID 1 or RAID 6? It's 12 drives...
Bentley Brooks
Carson Myers
RAID 0 of course
Carson Adams
Nah man with so many drives I'm worried one will break and there goes 8TB of data. Also I've never had a drive crap out on me before so I'm overdue.
Andrew Cruz
10
Benjamin Torres
raid16
Christian Bell
I feel like I'm not getting serious answers.
Kevin Gutierrez
here's a serious answer:
Robert Hill
But I don't want RAID 10. I want either 1 or 6. 1 is what I originally was going to do for full safety of data, but 6 seems acceptable and I'd get more storage space. I'm unlikely to lose half the disks all at once. And if I did lose a disk or two, I could run to the store same day and get replacements.
Eli Walker
stop being a faggot and do this
Carson Miller
Gavin Gomez
What would even be the point? First you lose half your storage to raid 1, then lose another portion of it to the raid 6 part. The raid 6 is totally meaningless because failure of a drive would be more efficiently restored from the mirror drive rather than the parity portions.
Colton Flores
Alright thanks for nothing Sup Forums, I'm going with RAID 6 and if it fucks up I'll rebuild on RAID 1.
[spoiler]I still like you guys but really.
Matthew Mitchell
raid 60
Jaxson Walker
>worried about losing the data
Use ZFS, pool Z3, and do backups once in a while.
You _do_ want the data checksumming zfs does.
>alternatives?
HAMMER/HAMMER2 (dragonfly BSD)
And that's pretty much it.
John Davis
>zfs
Shoot I'm already making the volume with ztrfs.
Also I have no intention of backing up 70TB of data at this time. Maybe in a few years when cloud storage gets even cheaper I'll encrypt it and throw it up online in 1TB chunks, but for now it's staying 100% local.
Thomas Rogers
OK, then ensure you have good monitoring and automatic snapshots.
Monitoring meaning, automatic SMART tests (short one daily, long one weekly or monthly), and email to you if something isn't good. Always have a spare drive or two ready for immediate replacement.
Do automatic scrubs, too. Like, on cron. Weekly or monthly.
Nathan Flores
>ztrfs
btrfs? You have chosen poorly.
Not a good FS if you value your data.
Dylan Thompson
I've got SMART tests set for weekly but I'll change to daily, thanks. And I'll grab a couple spare drives tomorrow rather than wait until I need them. Thanks.
Connor Rogers
Oh fuck. Should I have chosen ext4? It's a Synology NAS so those were the two options in the system.
Eli Harris
>Synology NAS
OK, nevermind. I thought you were serious and had built a proper, custom NAS system.
Angel Bell
RAID doesn't do shit for data integrity by itself unless you have a checksumming and self-correcting FS like ZFS.
If you're not going to use something like that, you're better off using the extra drives as a cold backups, and storing them off-site.
Kayden Morgan
No I cucked out because work keeps me too busy to research all that.
Jackson Jenkins
The other "easy way" is to take a U2 or U3 case and a supermicro server board with raid controller, put the controller in IT mode and install freenas.
Oliver Martinez
How much data are you storing?
How much can be recovered from the internet if your drives die?
Christian Jackson
Not sure how much data yet, but I have 12 8TB drives on RAID 6 so ~70TB of usable space. 100% able to restore from the internet because I'm planning to download every anime series available and archive it. The downside is I'm doing this because I'm worried anime will be wiped from the internet someday and this is a hedge against that happening.
I hope 70TB is enough.
Logan Lee
>RAID 6
i'd go with one of the zfs raid levels
maybe z2 or z3
if i had bags of money and time
i would have a few more of these nas boxes at different sites
i would store files by their hashes and have a separate db to tie filenames to them...
kinda like how object storage works
Easton Martinez
Read about ZFS send.
Also, look into borg backup.
Daniel Walker
>i would store files by their hashes and have a separate db to tie filenames to them...
You should check out git-annex
Sebastian Ramirez
it sure is Sup Forums in here
Ethan Ramirez
I got a warning last time I started a thread over there to talk about my project. I'll wait until the next AB thread to let them know I've begun the archive.
Angel Thomas
You're doing God's work, user.
Brandon Wilson
8 years ago in 2010 I came to Sup Forums for help making a gaming computer on a budget under the tripcode Poorfag something or other. I'm still using that computer today mostly because I stopped gaming, but at the time some user commented that the reason people had multiple terabytes of storage was for anime and that if I started watching, I'd become like them. Over the years I added HDDs until I was out of SATA connections on the motherboard, then I maxed out all my USB connections. That anime hoard saved my sanity for a half year period when I had no internet access. So thanks Sup Forums for helping me get started on the proper path of anime storage. Coalgirls for life.
Alexander Green
I feel like raid z2 is reasonable for what you want to do.
Easton Sanders
Came for the shitposting, stayed for the fuzzies.
John Foster
god i want to impregnate karen
Austin Wilson
Fuck me its too late, I'm not reformatting to zfs now that I've started moving files over.
Brody Turner
RAIDZ3 or 2xRAIDZ2
Get real and use ZFS.
Nicholas Adams
Also I'm reading on Synology forums that zfs isn't really that useful. I'm basically just using it as one big external drive not doing anything too fancy, although I do plan to seed from the NAS box itself to free up precious RAM on my battlestation.
Mason Thompson
Oh, I though it was a real NAS. I am using a DELL PowerEdge T630 myself.
Nathan Johnson
RAID 6 may be good if you believe there's no way for three drives to fail under heavy load, one after another.
Most probably you'll be good.
Anthony Wilson
>Synology forums
>zfs isn't really that useful.
Wow, the denial.
The purchase justification.
Jose Allen
RAID6, definitely.
Yea, ZFS is not really that great.
But arguably it's good enough in many cases, plus you'll not convince the BSD users that they don't have SOMETHING that isn't quite as good on Linux.
Benjamin Roberts
you can potentially lose the 8 drives at once more importantly though the failure can potentially happen on both sides at once
Charles Wilson
>Yea, ZFS is not really that great.
This has to stop
Jeremiah Wood
>think user is serious
>turns out he is too stupid to make a real NAS, he bought overpriced prebuilt memes.
Asher Hill
Of course you're not you dumb faggot. You have asked a question which demonstrates both a fundamental lack of understanding of RAID configs, and a complete fucking failure to do 5 minutes of research via google to correct that lack of understanding and make the obvious choice.
What the fuck did you expect you stupid cunt?
Thomas Diaz
Sup Forums isn't a problem
avatarfagging is
Liam Davis
Chihiro wins lol
Levi Butler
12bay synology
Atom c2000
Enjoy your premature death in 18 months op, unless it has a fixed motherboard then it'll last a whole *up to* five years.