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euphoric edition

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first for thrashers are faggots

unexpect is spork, not euphoric

Metal is for children

oh shiiiit man i haven't seen this meme in ages

>butt annihilated black baby

t. 19 year old neo-thrasher

Tell me then, what do you consider traditional metal? What do you consider heavy metal?

>2:37
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t. 12 years old wall noiser

Gb2 your cucktory worship your mongrel

>typical traditional metal
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>typical heavy metal
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there's a massive difference in style and sound. to pretend their somehow the same subgenre is ridiculous

What portion of nsbm bands are serious? What about anti-religious bands?

Trad metal is just a term like nwobhm to distinguish between scenes. Its still heavy metal

A vast majority of NSBM bands are not actually NSBM bands, it's just the members that are either neo-nazis, radical conservatives etc but don't actually put any of it in their lyrics, or do it very rarely, like Nokturnal Mortum.

Then there are bands that also put it into their lyrics, but it's just the same as traditional metal.

Black metal is supposed to be shocking, satanism doesn't shock anyone anymore so people transition to NS now, and it's clearly working.

As for anti-religious bands, fuck religion, pretty much every band is serious about that

first one is just rock music

Yeah he's being an idiot ignore him

I understand that plenty of bm bands have ns members, I didn't mean shit like that. Most of the time when anti-religious or pro-natalist shit is in bm it's so heavy handed that it sounds silly. I'm not a national socialist, but I am pretty anti-religious, so it's not entirely me just projecting my bias onto the music.

I think the tem you're looking for is proto-metal

why is the spork aesthetic so best, boys?

>I'm not a national socialist


why would you admit to this?

>fuck religion, pretty much every band is serious about that

>listens to metal
>somehow memes people who are anti-religion as fedoralords

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that's like saying black sabbath's first album is just rock music lad

you're trying to tell me that stuff along the lines of black sabbath are somehow the same subgenre of metal of stuff along the lines of priest.

but if you want me to link you heavier traditional metal thats unarguably metal and not heavier rock, here you go. how does traditional metal hold any semblance to bands like maiden, priest and diamond head?
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Why do people call black metal musicians "black metal composers"? Sounds like delusion to me

>so heavy handed that it sounds silly
What NSBM bands are you talking about specifically?

What's going on on this cover?

I've never heard someone say this and if someone does it it's usually the same people calling every artist a composer

They're usually referring to one man bands where they compose for all instruments

it's the phrasing desu.

If you don't use mammal sauce you might as well be gay

This makes sense. How come that's more prevalent in black metal than other metal subgenres (or at least apparently so)?

Not really sure why. Black metal has got this whole anti social extreme angle to it which led to more one man bands i guess

>I'm not a national socialist

the DIY aesthetic and everyone wants to be Grishnackh.plus most bm tracks aren't really technically demanding. it's more of a BM tradition desu.

The BM misanthrope thing really attracts autists.

This is ridiculously heavy for 1971, what the fuck.

>4:11

We proto-metal now
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extremely low requirement for talent. making even bottom of the barrel death or thrash takes some level of skill, with black metal you can be absolutely Down's syndrome-tier and if you package it right people will pretend they like it because 'lololo kvlt'

true
most one man bands are shit

38 minutes is the perfect length for a metal album

Nope. 45

28

42

Black sabbaths first is just rock music. Hard rock blues rock but rock music all the same. And black sabbath is not representative of all trad metal

>Black sabbaths first is just rock music

Yes, it is.

I was agreeing with you until you just said

>Black sabbaths first is just rock music.

I'm a different guy so no you weren't

>the defining metal album and the bible of doom metal isn't metal
ok

Its the album that birth metal sure, the the parent is not the child and it is still rock. And MoR is the doom one

nah, 76

>MoR is the doom one
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Explain how Black Sabbath's first album isn't metal, lad.

How isn't this doom metal?

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literally the first song on their s/t is one of the most iconic doom metal songs of all time
what the fuck are you on about

>it's a Sup Forums essentials shitter tries talking about metal episode

actually, it's 142 minutes

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>yfw this song

man I never listen to this anymore, I forgot how goddamn great it is

jesus christ ozzy can NOT sing at all, even from the start

Because it's just heavier blues rock. The band themselves says so, and who are you to argue with Black Sabbath?

EVIL WOMAN DON'T YOU PLAY YOUR GAMES WITH ME

>the parent is not the child
You're right, Cream, Led Zeppelin, Spooky Tooth, The Who, The Yardbirds and Yesterday's Children were the parents that were rock and Black Sabbath is the child that is metal

The grandparent is not the child.
see

What does Sup Forums think of this album?

I think it's fairly shit.

real good

>"Since we were so-called inventors of this music, and coming from Birmingham and all the surrounding things that are going on, it's really great for Birmingham and it's really great for us all," BLACK SABBATH guitarist Tony Iommi who has been involved with the project told the BBC.

>He added, "I wasn't familiar with [the term 'heavy metal'] for quite a few years. I mean, I always looked at what we did as heavy rock. And when that term was first mentioned to me Somebody said, 'Oh, you play heavy metal.' And I said, 'What? What's that?' And this was a journalist from a well-known magazine. He said, 'Well, that's what you play it's heavy metal.' And I'd been in America for quite awhile, so when I came back and I heard this term, I'd never heard it. And, of course, ever since that, that's been non-stop. I still think we're heavy rock, but you are put into a bag, and I'm quite proud of it now."

Literally forced by genre autists to conform to their meme tags

EMILY

>the content creator reserves the right to define their work

You never explained how it isn't metal you dumbfuck.

Listen to and explain to me how it's not metal, but all of the 70s and 80s doom metal bands that do the same thing somehow are.

That doesn't explain anything. It's apparently not metal because somebody says so? Then what about the identical sounding bands who are labeled metal?

You can't explain how it's not metal so you resort to "b-but somebody said".

You're practically saying that if I were to take a brown shit and call it a gray rock, it's technically a gray rock because I created it.

Only the creator of a piece of work knows its true meaning. If Iommi says Black Sabbath is hard rock, then it's hard rock. Period. No amount of mental gymnastics can change this fact.

Well yeah they do

>"b-but somebody said".
>how it isn't metal

The band said it wasn't metal. The people who made a thing tell you it's not some other thing, and you say they're wrong. Because you're an idiot.

Prove it is metal.

literally this
who cares what Tony thought. The intro riff of Black Sabbath is clearly metal even if some of that album (most even) is just heavy psych

if i wrote a black metal song that's just straight up tranny hunger worship and called it speed metal that wouldn't make it fucking speed metal

>all of the 70s and 80s doom metal bands that do the same thing somehow are.
How about you prove that first, since we're trying to be factual.

You're making a lot of statements and don't seem to hold yourself to the same standards you hold us.

So if I make a black metal song and say it's actually a romantic string quartet piece it totally is, right?

If I were to write goregrind and then say it was dreampop, it's dreampop now?

>some of that album (most even) is just heavy psych
Boom here we go
You are now on our side no matter what you said

How does this have anything to do with what we're saying?

>Prove it is metal
The fact that Black Sabbath spawned a massive subgenre of rock is enough proof. The fact that without Black Sabbath, metal would be vastly different, if not outright non-existent. The fact that many millions of people consider them metal. The fact that subjectively they are labeled label in relation to hard rock and objectively because the composition and performance is vastly different from jazz, rock and pop

9/10 troll, haven't seen people this pissed in a long time

>Black Sabbath spawned a massive subgenre of rock is enough proof
But user, that isn't proof. That's not how proof works. Google something called the scientific method and get back to us.

how?

>a song that shares every characteristic with doom metal and is generally considered one of the defining doom metal songs isn't doom metal because somebody says so

nah sabbath is still a heavy metal band and even if their s/t wasnt a metal album it still had the first metal songs

Because Black Sabbath played what objectively fits the 'metal' label but called it 'heavy rock' or whatever, and that doesn't make it 'metal'. The examples you quoted were hyperbole but valid.

it's the exact same argument: Only the artist can define his work

what is the best Death album?

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have you ever listened to Black Sabbath?
have you ever listened to metal?
because I seriously don't understand how stupid you have to be to not see how influential they were on the genre

They're all mediocre, overhyped shit

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>scientific method
Bloody hell mate. You're arguing about genres. They're literally artificially constructed, woolly lists of predicates useful only for descriptive purposes. This is a ridiculous discussion.

By the way guys, Immortal is Holocaust Metal, not Black Metal.

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Can you guy's growl?

Human or Symbolic, but they're one of the few bands that have a perfect discography, listen to all their studio albums their all incredible.

Besides Human most of there albums are really generic.

I can't growl but I can do really high-pitched screams.