Does anyone actually still like him?

Does anyone actually still like him?
He was good in between 1960-1980 but now he is a former shell of his self. His songwriting is weak compared to earlier work. His voice got worse over time.
>He will never top Blood on the Tracks or Blonde on Blonde

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>Time Out of Mind
>Tempest
>Modern Times
>"weak"

Time Out of Mind, Love and Theft, [spoilers]Christmas in the Heart[/spoilers] and Tempest are all good to great albums.

Shadows in the Night and Fallen Angels are okay.

Modern Times and Together Through Life are trite.

His live shows are pretty shit, I'll give you that.

i think about him

yes I enjoyed time out of my mind, love and theft, and tempest a lot. Also he topped blood on the tracks with bringing it all back home

Who cares if the new stuff is bad, he made some great stuff and that's all it matters. You doon't have to listen to the bad stuff.

people respect him for that era. its not like we've forgotten. its the same with most old musicians

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Dylan's actually been pretty smart about this with releasing "new" classic albums via the bootleg series.

Me.
Bringing it all back home and blonde on blonde are two of the few 10/10s

Heinous lies and bullshit in this thread. Dylan aged like wine.

tempest is also a 10/10 imho
Bob Dylan is still kicking it, and his songwriting puts most others to shame

>he is a former shell of his self
>a former shell

>tempest is also a 10/10 imho

>Time out mind
>Not uninspired trash

i'll wait until you actually listen to the albums before i try to argue with you, k user? :)

>Being this butthurt
Wow summer sure came early this year

Show me another album with something like Highlands. Then show me one written and performed by a man almost in his 60s.

I was just thinking about listening to Tempest today. I don't listen to him much these days but he's still in my Top 5 Artists. And I actually enjoy 2000's Dylan the most of all the Dylan era's.

>And I actually enjoy 2000's Dylan the most of all the Dylan era's

That album (and pic related) were let down by Daniel Lanois's hack production, but the songs are excellent. Far from uninspired though, even if Love & Theft is the better album.

>And I actually enjoy 2000's Dylan the most of all the Dylan era's.
Every genuine Dylan fan realises this eventually.

You're just blatantly wrong here, pal. I get not liking it, but calling it uninspired is ridiculous. It's one of the most emotional albums he's made.

Most of you cucks in this thread only listen to Bob Dylan because you want to feel special. Fucking autist can't take critism of your favorite musician. At least the other fags have containment threads

/dylan/ general when?

>Time out of mind
>Emotional
Do you even know what that word means?

>Every genuine Dylan fan realises this eventually
this
his late 90s-2000s stuff is objectively the best of his career, all the parts fit together perfectly

Tempest and Shadows In The Night are exemplary as well.

and who do you listen to, user?

He is one of the most popular and revered figures in music history, why would I feel special for loving him when so many others do?

Dylan threads have always been pretty Troll-proof.

Bowie

I mean sure, the albums flow together better than his 60s albums but there are still more individual standout tracks on the classic albums than there are on the modern ones.

I like the modern Dylan albums, just want to clarify that before we get at this. I just can't bring myself to say they're better than the stuff he's known for.

shittest b8 and all these faggots are falling for it

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>Bowie
>"you want to feel special"
KEK

>Listens to Bob Dylan
>unironically enjoys it
I bet you think Blood Meridian is a good book. Stay Pleb.

>says the guy who's favorite book is the Divine Comedy
>"want to feel special" much?

Batman reaction pics too da rescue!!

Where in this thread does it say my favorite book is The Divine Comedy?
WTF are you talking about?

>mfw when an artist who has had a stellar 50 year career with tons of brilliant albums releases something that's not as good as his heyday in his old age so obviously I have to stop liking him forever

>Where in this thread does it say my favorite book is The Divine Comedy?
>WTF are you talking about?

>I bet you think Blood Meridian is a good book. Stay Pleb.

Townes is better t
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derivative hack

lol, what, his style itself is totally different from Dylan's. Nevermind that every Dylan album has lifted lines.

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we all know its you user, you've been shitposting all day.

his style wouldn't come close to existing without dylan

>every Dylan album has lifted lines.
post them all faggot

What are you talking about?

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don't feel too bad

everybody gets humiliated by scaruffi once in a while

>"professional" rock critic
nice try

There are kids on Sup Forums who have nothing better to do than reverse troll a Dylan thread.

How is that me? Grimes is cancer.

>considers critics opinions
>scaruffi at that

neck yourself user

Scaruffi is a clueless hack and you know it.
Stop forcing this meme, you're worse than the Fantanofags

this is you right now

not going to read that, sure it's an epic win though. ;^)

are you trying to be this retarded

its epic cringe.

You mongs realize that Dylan has said his earlier albums are far superior, right? He has flat-out stated that his ability to make great music is gone. He has said that he made his best music when he was in his 20s.

Don't let the views of the artist himself or 99% of the music world affect you though. You're the smartest boy in the world, just like Mommy said.

Really? Because his style is just as influenced by Hank Williams and Lightnin' Hopkins as it is by Dylan. If you're going to get at it Dylan wouldn't have existed without Hank, Guthrie, Johnson or Little Richard. No artist is truly original.

I'd be here for days if I listed out each and every possible example of Dylan swiping something from somebody else. I'll just say this - Blowin' in the Wind has a melody lifted from No More Auction Block, Every Grain of Sand has lines lifted from William Blake and Chronicles is a collage of lines from other books. I respect Dylan as an artist, if you study how art was created before corporations made copyright the law of the land, you'll see Dylan's just doing what artists from other eras did. The fact stands that his catalog of work would be almost unrecognizable if Dylan had never taken something from somebody else and called it his own.

Here are some links:
dissidentvoice.org/2013/12/bob-dylan-and-plagiarism:
rollingstone.com/music/news/bob-dylans-greatest-lyrical-thefts-20110511
The books Song and Dance Man vol III: The Art of Bob Dylan and The Songs He Didn't Write: Bob Dylan Under the Influence go into very detailed depth about his.

You could argue that Dylan was simply working within the folk tradition and therefore not a plagiarist but then by the definition of tradition in relation to art he'd have to be derivative.

Hey bud, Scaruffi thinks your Bowie is the most overrated solo artist of the rock era.

Dylan also didn't think Blind Willie McTell was worth releasing when it was the best song he wrote during the 80s. Who gives a shit about what Dylan thinks of his own art

he also said he was never a protest singer and that blood on the tracks was not a personal album, your point?

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>I'd be here for days if I listed out each and every possible example of Dylan swiping something from somebody else. I'll just say this - Blowin' in the Wind has a melody lifted from No More Auction Block, Every Grain of Sand has lines lifted from William Blake and Chronicles is a collage of lines from other books. I respect Dylan as an artist, if you study how art was created before corporations made copyright the law of the land, you'll see Dylan's just doing what artists from other eras did. The fact stands that his catalog of work would be almost unrecognizable if Dylan had never taken something from somebody else and called it his own.
You don't seem to understand how the folk tradition works.

I do completely. I even put a little tidbit at the end of that post. The fact that Dylan willingly followed a derivative method of creating art doesn't negate the fact that it was derivative.

And Chronicles was straight up plagiarism, he took lines from old Time magazine articles.
>Chronicles, p. 88:
>Some women wanted to be called ‘a woman’ when they reached twenty-one. Some sales girls, or women, didn’t want to be referred to as ‘salesladies.’ In churches, too, things were shaking up. Some white ministers didn’t want to be labeled ‘the Reverend.’ They wanted to be called just plain ‘Reverend.’

>Time, Friday, Mar. 31, 1961: “The Press: The Reporter’s Guide”
>The Los Angeles Times, concluding that all women aren’t ladies, ungallantly applies its conclusion: ‘A salesgirl or a saleswoman is not a saleslady, and a washerwoman is not a washlady, so a scrubwoman cannot be a scrublady… …In the Memphis Commercial Appeal if a minister is white, he is ‘the Rev.,’ if Negro he is simply ‘Rev.’

>Chronicles, p. 127:
>“I bought a red flower for my wife, one of the loveliest creatures in the world of women.”

>R. L. Stevenson, Providence and the Guitar, Complete Short Stories of Robert Louis Stevenson, p. 203:
>As Leon looked at her, in her low-bodied maroon dress, with her arms bare to the shoulder, and a red flower set provocatively in her corset, he repeated to himself for the many hundredth time that she was one of the loveliest creatures in the world of women.

>Chronicles, p. 63:
>“He didn’t need to say much—you knew he had been through a lot, achieved some great deed, praiseworthy and meritorious, yet unspoken about it.”

>Jack London, White Fang, p. 298:
>“He carried himself with pride, as though, forsooth, he had achieved a deed praiseworthy and meritorious.”

Saw him in 2010 and it was fucking terrible. I do like his Christmas album though.

I really don't care about that at all.

I know this is bait but it'd still make me happy if you shot yourself in the head.

And you know what? Dylan himself apparently isn't okay when people use the folk tradition to lift from his works - the latest addition to the Bootleg Series was to keep the copyright on all those non-album old recordings from going to the public domain and Dylan's taken Hootie and the Blowfish to court for lifting lines from him (I know that you like many other Dylan fans are going to take the hypocritical stance that since it's Hootie and the Blowfish you don't care, but that doesn't change the fact that he's saying it's alright when he does but not when anybody else does). If he was such a student of the folk tradition neither would've come to pass.

Dylan is the owner of all of his songs btw, so it's indisputable that he was the one to file the suit against Hootie and the Blowfish.

he's jewish, what did you expect?