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What did you think of The Glowing Man, and what do you want the next incarnation of Swans to sound like?

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Post-shoegaze with vapourwave influences.

i like it when I'm not drunk, I expect it to be minimal industrial.

>impact font
>memecrunch.com
>doesnt like swans

>likes swans
>typical Sup Forums fag who thinks he has superior taste

personally I thought To Be Kind was better than TGM, nonetheless it was a great album to listen to

Soundtracks for the Blind > The Seer > To Be Kind > White Light > The Glowing Man > Children of God > Greed/Holy Money > Love of Life > Rope to the Sky > The Great Annihilator > Filth > Cop > The Burning World

Public Castration > Soundtracks > Filth > the rest of the albums > To Be Kind

My thoughts exactly

Damn, I really have to get Public Castration is a Good Idea. Which of their live albums are essential?

Swans are Dead
Public Castration
Die Tür ist zu

What the fuck do you have against To Be Kind?

it got memed on here too much so he probably thinks it uncool to like, so of course he went with what he believe to be their most inaccessible music as the best.

reminder that cop is better than filth

>filth and cop that low

Into the trash it goes.

TGM might just be my favorite reformation Swans album.
It might not bring much new to the table, but every song feels very distinctive and is a joy to listen to all the way through.
The album feels perfectly paced that I love listening to the whole thing at once, but each song feels so well developed, that I can turn on just one or two songs at a time to get my Swans fill of the day, without feeling like I'm missing out on the experience of the full album.
Something I think took the best of both worlds from both Seer, and TBK. I found The Seer to be riveting album all the way through but songs could feel awkward when out of context of the album, and I loved single tracks from TBK, but sometimes got exhausted listening to the whole thing.

I think TBK is overblown, everything on it was done better on The Seer, and some tracks are pure filler.

That said, Bring the Sun and A Little God in my Hands are some of the best Swans songs.

"Hey user, I saw your drum cover of The Apostate on Youtube, it was pretty good, will be auditioning for the new Swans line-up?"

>Larkin Grimm wanted every pump she got from me
>She is just saying it wasn't consensual cause i denied her advances cause i wanted a pure-white wife

>"h-hey, user... i-i-i saw your drum cover of the apostate on the internet thing the other day and uhhh... d-d-do you want to.. maybe... ummm... do you... do you want to... audition for.... the new... swans lineup? y-you don't have to"
ftfy

the glowing man is a good album,
I'm probably not gonna listen to it again though cause swans was my ex boyfriends favourite band

i-it's not like I want you to audition

I don't like Swans either but LITERALLY MEMECRUNCH.COM

More like

"I saw your cover of the Apostate on that stupid video site, I'm not saying it was good but i just need a figurehead to replicate the sounds i have in my head, so you better show up to my next albums recording session or what happened to Larkin Grimm will happen to you"

I absolutely loved The Glowing Man, no other neo-Swans release had such a "damn" factor when it was first released. I think Cloud of Unknowing is the single best song they've ever made. It sounds cheesy but I can really see what they mean with their "transcendental music" thing they're going for.
I'm seeing them later this month, am super excited.
I think the next Swans will be more folky but with the droning spiritual sounds that we see them introducing with TGM. Not as conventional as Angels of Light, but not as punishing as this incarnation of Swans.

Anyone want to compare track rankings?
Cloud of Unknowing > The Glowing Man > The World Looks Red/Black >>> Cloud of Forgetting = Frankie M > Finally Peace > When Will I Return > People Like Us

gira actually seems like a really nice guy when he's not in joseph-mode

well which is it then, Sup Forums?

joseph-mode?

How many members have come and gone in swans should tell you which it is

The Glowing Man was good but I still prefer The Seer and TBK.

New Swans will be field recordings of Gira raping women.

He's simmered down in the past few years as he has gotten older

The Glowing Man > Cloud of Unknowing > Frankie M > The World Looks Red/Black > Cloud of Forgetting > Finally Peace > When Will I Return > People Like Us

gira's talked about how he feels as though he doesn't write the songs but allows a guy called joseph to speak through him. that's what the joseph lines in the glowing man refer to.

>mfw 30 minute drone folk epics
yes please mr. gira!

>I think Cloud of Unknowing is the single best song they've ever made
It's definitely up there, the AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH towards the end gives me chills. I didn't know his voice went that high

I thought that was about drugs (riding a vein to my head/making my body fly)

Deepest lore

he's so tsundre

>he feels as though he doesn't write the songs but allows a guy called joseph to speak through him

Pretty much what you were saying, "transcendental music". Also Catharsis comes to mind, listening to TGM is really purging. I'd have to rank TGM above Cloud Of Unknowing though

holy crap, I wanted to meet him when he comes to my country in August but now I just don't know

Well....
A. The kind of music they make takes endurance and a very specific mindset.
B. Gira used to be a verbally abusive alchoholic, but that has changed.
C. You have to be able to take a lot of labor and occasionally not being able to line up to what Gira's vision entails.

tons of creative people have talked about how they feel as though they're allowing something to speak through them as they create, the experience that gira's given a name is no different.

trust me, it sounds better when he talks about it

he isn't going to freak out and strangle you at the merch counter for Pete's sake.

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he looked me dead in the eyes for like a minute straight when i saw them, and i kind of felt like he wanted to do just that. or maybe he just thought i was cool and wanted to be my friend idk.

He isn't being supernatural about it, that's just his way of describing that epiphany-like feeling of inspiration you can sometimes get.

were you holding up your cellphone

were you head-banging

nope, i was just like standing there chilling

did you have your fingers on the stage

did you whip your penis out during coward

Just posted this in a different thread, but here's an interview where he talks about it.
I recommend the whole interview if you're interested in him, he's got a great life story, but this is the part in particular that he talks about the Joseph thing.
youtu.be/tKQoem7EKAI

How do you pronounce his name? I've even seen him pronounce it slightly differently in different interviews

The only timr I've heard him say it he said "Michael Yuh-rah"

Michael Gi-AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH FLEX YOUR MUSCLES, BE HARD!

Pretty sure it's jer-aw

geedorah

its jeer-AH

Greed isn't drastically different from Cop or Filth... not sure why you'd rate it so much better than the other.

I thought Glowing Man was pretty good, the logical conclusion to what Seer and Kind started for this generation of Swans

I'm expecting the next incarnation of Swans to sound just like Angels of Light, to be honest

FRANKIE M
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A
N
K
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M

>what do you want the next incarnation of Swans to sound like?
all jarboe tracks

AHHH FRANKIE MINATRA

>Cum on my face, Frankie M
>Watch as i penetrate, Frankie M
>Going in raw on Larkin, Frankie M
>Spilling my semen on her chest, Frankie M
>AHHHHHHHHHH AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH AHHHHHHHHHHHH AHHHHHHH LARKIN AHHHHHHHHHH AHHHHHHHHHH AHHHHHHHH UMMMMMMMMMMM UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM UMMMMMMMMMMMMM

cute!

The real question: Are we getting more Angels of Light albums?

>what do you want the next incarnation of Swans to sound like?

I fucking need to hear the proper successor to this.

AHHHHHH FRANKIE SINATRA
AHHH FRANK SINATRA

What album would you recommend to someone to get into listening to Swans?

The Seer or To Be Kind.

Children of God

Public Castration is a Good Idea

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Pretty sure there was an updated version of that, it included TGM and side projects

i would also recommend starting with the seer and to be kind, is memeing

I though this was supposed to be their last album.

Nah, last with the current line up, but Gira is going to keep making music under the name

this gave me chills

That doesn't surprise me. Gira always looked insanely "off"

I doubt he literally means some dude name Joseph is talking to him. For a lot of people writing music is extremely intuitive and thus for the most part feels like your just a conduit for it to pass through. I know that sounds dumb and new agey but it is actually how it can feel.

Soundtracks for the Blind>The Seer>Great Annihilator>Glowing Man>Children of God>To Be Kind>Love of Life>Greed/Holy Money>White Light>Filth>Cop>Burning World

TWLR/TWLB > The Glowing Man > Cloud of Unknowing > Finally Peace > Cloud of Forgetting > When Will I Return? > People Like Us > Frankie M

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There already was one

I'd be fine with this desu.
Hopefully

I wonder how different would his output would've been without all that acid he dropped as a kid.

My introduction was the A Long Slow Screw video on youtube, which is basically Public Castration on film.

The idea that some entry points are worse than others is ludicrous to me.

pic related

>thinks Public Castration is goat
>doesn't mention the masterpieces that are Cop or Young God
lurk moar

I think Gira is going to go really theatrical, choral and orchestral in the future. Think Frankie M's intro, Cloud of Unknowings
>AAAAAAAAVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
etc.

Is it worth listening to We Rose from Your Bed with the Sun in Our Head, Not Here/Not Now and/or The Gate? Do the songs sound any different than the studio versions?