/noise/ general

It's the /noise/ thread.

>Harsh noise coffees
>Harsh noise sodas
>Harsh noise smoothies

First for Mossy Throats. Microbe Shower fucking rips.

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sodie pop

haven't into noise yet, gonna listen to pulse demon then be disappointed and listen to something else cya

that's cool Pulse Demon's a good album but also check out Pittsburgh, PA by Macronympha before you give up that album is GOAT

bump

where have all the noise bros gone?

Coffee

>Coffee with cream and a little sugar

I listened to Incapacitants - No Progress earlier. It was pretty good, though I prefer As Loud As Possible.

Rec me an album that can reignite my interest in noise, I have kinda lost it :(

Check out some Koufar stuff, especially Lebanon For Lebanese.

What is the most harsh noise soda brand

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Started the day with some iced coffee for a change

Anyone here explore ubuweb? I stumbled on their Electronic Music Resources and they have some pretty cool /noise/ relevant articles. ubu.com/emr/index.html

hey guys

I'm listening to that right now. First track is fucking gorgeous.

not exactly pure noise, but Ive been digging Pete Swanson - Punk Authority lately.

Not exactly what I was looking for, but still cool nevertheless.

What has Sam McKinlay been doing all year?

I dont ge it, you just listen to noise? whats the point it just sounds bad and its not even music.

huh, i didn't know anyone on Sup Forums gave a shit about noise
anyone here order the new gods of tundra tapes? i never thought i'd see that label back in action again

not much, only a few releases out so far
the rita performed at incubate though

youtube.com/watch?v=vTuHQiQJNcQ

most, if not all of us disagree.

hey this is cool

haha sam you big perv :')

So what do you guys think about the new Gerogerigegege album? I loved it. Great atmosphere.

>it sounds bad
Nice meme

The fuck, how did I miss this? I'll put it on after

the definitive poseurcore album of 2016

not great, IMO.
Too quiet.

That album is sick. Anyone know any similar horror noise wall?

helloooo

i wasn't into music since july 2015
now i wanna restore the blanks
what are definin noise records from 15-16 i've missed ?

so far i listened (and loved)

John Wiese - Deviate From Balance
Kazuma Kubota - Utsuroi
Sightnings - Amusers and Puzzlers
Sissy Spacek - Brath
Prurient - Cocaine Daughter
Rutger Zuydervelt - Sneeuwstorm
Grunt - Myth of Blood
Lescalleet's TIWID series
VA - Vampyric Screams...

(about to listen to hijokaidan projects)


These were kind of mixedbags for me

Frank Bretschneider - Sinn + Form
Damien Dubrovnik - Vegas Fountain
Prurient - Frozen Niagara Falls
On a Business Trip to London - s/t
Merzbow + Xiu Xiu MERZXIU
Kevin Drumm - Syzygial
JOJO広重 - Jojo

If you feel burnt out on noise, I think the best way to approach the problem is to listen to one of your personal favorites at a very loud volume
If that doesn't do the trick, it's probably time to take a break and listen to some shoegaze or whatever

>too quiet
That seems like a lousy complaint. I guess it isn't as noise as their early output and uses more drone/musique concrete techniques.
Huh?

One of these days I'm going to record the Tornado siren they test every week and make something with it.

I think he means that any "real" fan would know gero were more relevant in the 80s so it seems pretty entry level to be like "ooh look at the new gero album" because you're just looking at a new release by an entry level artist. Sort of like "oh hey did you hear the new genocide organ?" That's not my perspective on the matter, it's just a perspective I can understand, and I in fact have not heard their new release. Can anyone describe it in some detail?

yo!

what up??

Anyone working on any cool projects these days? Any gear to show off? I got my new pedal today so that's pretty nice.
>inb4 ew rhythm wolf
>inb4 lmao nice meme pedal
They're not perfect pieces of equipment but they're very useful for my intents and purposes

>haven't into noise yet, gonna listen to pulse demon
Bad idea. Check out Galactic Tornado instead. Much better.

Pulse Demon is not a good introduction to noise, I dunno why Sup Forums says it is
listen to something less abrasive, like some drone music or maybe Jason Lescalleet stuff like Air Supply

Important links to other noise related websites:
forum.noiseguide.com
noisewiki.com

>I dunno why Sup Forums says it is
Because we like tricking people into listening to things they will hate.

How cool is it that the current AOTY is 50% noise???

it's 100% noise if you would listen to it properly

Has anyone made an essentials list, or maybe a flow chart?

I haven't listened to very much harsh noise, but I've enjoyed what little I have.

These threads are and always will be cancer.
When it comes to dilettantism and almost comical levels of ignorance regarding the thread's chosen subject, the only other thread that has /noise/ beat is /daily/.
Sup Forums and discussion of left-field music unrelated to the current Pitchfork hype cycle or established pop/rock mythology just don't mix. It's always either a dickswinging contest(which is unfortunate since as far as the level of knowledge of these niche genre goes, pretty much nobody posting on this board has much of a dick to swing and are just posting shit that's fed to them by superficial Sup Forums charts or RYM lists) or people who legitimately don't know anything about the things they're trying to talk about, or a mix of both.

And then you have people like this

>you don't appreciate art 'correctly'
>cancer

I'm waiting for my friend to set up his dual vinyl player setup so we can do it all on vinyl.

It's true though. I've been occasionally checking into these threads ever since they began which was like 2 years ago at this point, and I haven't seen an iota of improvement in all that time.
I just don't understand how it's possible for them to remain this shitty and vapid all this time, especially considering that the very nature of the genre encourages people to do their own research and extensively explore it.


I thought the point of general threads was that they were supposed to be a place for people with a deeper and more involved interest in something than the average casual listener though, and going through most of the other genre generals on this board it is apparent that the people in them do have a pretty decent grip on their subject of discussion.
That can't be said for /noise/ though. These threads perpetually feel like the only people posting in them just discovered noise 2 months ago in a "creepy music" thread on Sup Forums.

>the only people posting in them just discovered noise 2 months ago

That's because anyone who listens to noise longer than that gets convinced into committing suicide.

Newbie here

I haven't listened to a lot of noise, just some stuff by Prurient, Drumm, a lot of Erstwhile Records stuff, and Wolf Eyes, and I really enjoyed most of it, but I'm finding it kind of difficult to find new stuff, where should I go from here? Relief was my favorite album of what I listened to. Sorry to ask to be spoonfed.

People in the other generals don't know anything either

see

haha

nah, the shittiest part of noise threads is that people keep forcing them into the general thread format when there's clearly not enough interest or knowledge around to sustain a general
ive had some pretty good chats about noise on this board, but not many of them were in /noise/

prurient and almost all members of wolf eyes, past or present, run their own record labels and collaborate a ton with other artists. i suggest starting with those labels or the artists they collaborated with.
i always recommend that people just follow that line of exploration and go through label catalogs or ties the artists they're into have to other artists rather than just telling them to listen to a different merzbow album or a different john olson project

>Pulse Demon is not a good introduction to noise
>Because we like tricking people into listening to things they will hate
>we

What are you fucking stupid or something? You have to have a down syndrome to say that Pulse Demon isn't a good introductory LP to the genre

It isn't exactly full on abrasive to the upper limit and it shows perfectly that noise isn't just TV static. It also has some 10/10 textures that are really powerful

What do you two stooges recommend is a good album

Nice contribution to the topic, dickhead
Go back to your basement
I would personally recommend branching out to P.E. or drone to see if it sticks
Also Sissy Spacek is great

youtube.com/watch?v=xNvSWhiJNF0

is this even harsh noise?
has a good rhythm and everything

Whatever it is, it's fucking great

Wow when is Venetian Snares gonna get sued for copying Stairway to Heaven?

>It isn't exactly full on abrasive to the upper limit and it shows perfectly that noise isn't just TV static.
>It also has some 10/10 textures that are really powerful

See? This is what I'm talking about when I'm talking about /noise/ not actually having a clue about noise.
This dude is blatantly just regurgitating the terms he has seen (over)used on this board when people attempt to discuss noise without having any real idea about what they mean or how they apply to noise music, and in this case he's using those terms while talking about an album to which they absolutely do not apply in any meaningful way.
It's this level of continued laziness and ignorance that's just baffling to me. That you people can keep making these threads and posting in them while not bothering to gain any more educated or context-aware perspective on it for all that time. What's the point, honestly?

>branching out to P.E. or drone
>Also Sissy Spacek is great

So, branching out to one genre which has always had pretty loose ties to noise and which only gets thrown into the same basket as noise because of lazy journalism and a crossover between audiences, one genre which has no ties to noise or its audience at all and one band which every aspiring avant-teen on this board has heard ages ago(though none of them have went any deeper into their discography beyond a single meme album)?
Shut up, please.

Noise and harsh noise are not the same thing.

Pulse Demon is good introduction to Harsh Noise, but this isn't a Harsh Noise general, it's just a Noise general. If someone is trying to get into Noise for the first time, don't start with Harsh Noise.

how do i learn how to discuss noise and harsh noise in a meaningful way

Why are you this triggered about a simple comment that you have to go on a giant rant

By reading /noise/ ofc.

>giant rant

It took me like 2-3 minutes to type all that shit out, not really a world class effort.

>by reading /noise/ ofc.
i actually agree with what you're saying regarding most noise-related discourse here, and on Sup Forums in general, being particularly unsatisfying so i'd appreciate if you gave me a sincere response

Read /noise/ literature
Watch /noise/ documentaries and interviews
Make /noise/ yourself

And of course, listen to more Noise!

It really is just as simple as reading up on the genre and on the shit that you're listening to, and thinking about what it is you're actually hearing and how it relates to the last thing that you've heard.
There's nothing complicated about it at all as long as you've got genuine enthusiasm for it, which is what makes the stagnant and ignorant nature of these threads all the more annoying.

Would anyone be interested in hearing my noise?

I am

Thanks, user. God bless you

soundcloud.com/tungstencobalt/we-are-not-alone-no1
Fresh off the oven

how would you describe your favorite noise release

what is it? google search only returns fridges...

totalblack.bandcamp.com/album/under-the-roman-clamour

Could someone recommend some interesting percussion based noise?

I don't have a favorite noise release.
I don't think I could cut it down to a compact list of favorites either, the nature of the genre and the way that often abstract motivations and influences end up producing results which can even just on a sonic level(not even gonna be getting into the multimedia aspect that so many noise makes extensive use of) be approached either with a lot of attention given to those abstractions or on a purely direct and visceral, head-on level(which is still not to say that the most obvious visceral aspect is all that should be focused on or acknowledged, or that there's nothing to say about it beyond commenting on its volume; even as far as the nature of a noise record's potential extremity goes I'd say that any artist worth a shit will carve out his own identity and constantly develop its individuality further) results in there being a lot more room for very extensive and sprawling personal canons than there is in more simplistic and accessible music, motivation-wise.
There's a lot of space for personal obsession with very specific elements when it comes to noise, a good recording can be as simple or as complex as the listener may want it to be at the moment.

It isn't even the best Merzbow album 2bh

List top ten merzbow albums

feels good.

are collabs allowed?

Merzbeat comes to mind.

There was also some percussive noise floating around the bandcamp threads last year but I forget the artists name.

watch him name the 5 merzbow albums he's heard and then add another random 5 to the list lmao

1. Rainbow Electronics 2
2. 1930
3. Flare Gun
4. Hybrid Noisebloom
5. Atsusaku
6. Keio Line
7. Amlux
8. Antimonument
9. Noisembryo
10. Dharma

lol

see
also Winterkalte-structures of destruction.

>Winterkalte-structures of destruction.
Really good. Thanks user
Not exactly percussion based as much as generally rhythmic but I like it

don't mention textures or you'll get called a poser

I hate this meme

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the "i listen to it for the textures" thing is a good example of how little the dudes here know about noise t b h
when /noise/ first began people would regularly come in here and go "wtf is this shit shit why are you listening to it" and none of the posters here who claimed to like noise really knew what to say to that because none of them were listening to noise for very long at all.
like i legit remember there being one, ONE semi-decent thread about noise back in the summer of 2014, just one fucking thread on a board which generally didn't pay much attention to noise, and then /noise/ spinning off out of that one fucking thread. there was no larger amount of interest to noise on mu, no sort of consistency in noise threads being made before the start of the general, nothing. just one single thread.

and then dudes come in here and wonder why /noise/ blows lel. of course its gonna blow.

and anyway, a couple of tripfags(i think those may have actually been doc brown and xernon but my memory's pretty muddy) started to parrot the "t-the textures!" response every single time no matter what album or artist people reacted to and no matter how much of a focus on texture over other elements that artist's shit had, and everyone else started to follow suit and think that was an adequate answer to every question. the textures bro, the textures!

i still think most of the people here who talk about noise and textures don't even know how the two fit together lmao.

>pulse demon isn't close at all to merzbow's best work, generally is not one of the better releases in the noise realm, and the sole reasons it's regarded or stands out is because the memorable album artwork
How true is this?

Who gives a fucking shit man
It really is a beautiful artwork though, I'll give credit where its due

>a couple of tripfags(i think those may have actually been doc brown and xernon but my memory's pretty muddy) started to parrot the "t-the textures!" response
I think this was that one dude from /metal/ who kept spamming Trash Bazooka

Pedestrian Deposit - Fatale
Macronympha - Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
Skin Crime - Eyestrain
Richard Ramirez - Rush

What a shitty post. Texture is a perfectly fine reason to enjoy a piece of noise.

I like this quite a bit. Sometimes I feel like it switches between tones too quickly though. It could easily be stretched out to over 9 minutes and it would actually make it better imo.

Some of the best bandcamp noise I've heard in a while.

>I like this quite a bit.
Thank you for listening and for the criticism. I actually prefer long tracks myself, No.2 will have to be longer.

Why not give my other songs a listen, user?

>Why not give my other songs a listen, user?
Because I'm busy listening to Boris.

what do you listen to noise for then? You seem to know a lot about the subject.

I listen primarily for the feeling noise imparts. That is accomplished through "texture" regardless of your view. Feeling is also imparted through compositional elements, and dynamics of said textures. You can have suble looping textures which create a rhythm. You can have chaotic, ever changing textures to keep you on edge. You can have hypnotic drones of texture.

"Texture" just wraps all that up into a word. Timbre is a better word if you are particularly snobbish, and I think that's what people mean when they say texture.

Stop spewing the. "no trye scottsman" fallacy in noise threads as well, it is a tired "argument"

Awww. Okay

I find the multimedia component of noise releases to be one of my favorite qualities. I enjoy interesting packaging, like MSBR has done (and ahlzagailzehguh to some extent, pic related) but I think it's really just visual and conceptual motifs that excite me the most. That's why The Rita has been one of the most intriguing acts to me, since I first saw the cover of sea wolf leviathan. Despite being pretty entry level I can't see myself ever getting tired of his stuff

>I thought the point of general threads was that they were supposed to be a place for people with a deeper and more involved interest in something than the average casual listener though, and going through most of the other genre generals on this board it is apparent that the people in them do have a pretty decent grip on their subject of discussion.
they don't and you're lying or stupid if you think otherwise.

rhat ahlz tape is insane, probably my favorite harsh noise release of last year
i have no idea how much further he can take the cut-up approach after such a release, he's got it totally perfected right now
you getting the new phocomelus/mania split tape that james is putting out?

anyone have this? there's hardly any rips available from M.B.'s label, that sucks

sorry bub.