Some other outstanding recordings of Obrecht's masses. It's a pity that some of his finest masses, such as the Missa Libenter Gloriabor and Missa Grecorum, are yet to receive recordings. Other works such as the Missa Maria Zart and Missa Fortuna Desperata are yet to receive decent recordings which can do them full justice.
Ryan Watson
Are you serious? In C is one of the best pieces of pop art minimalism in existence. Just becuase some shitty phone company used it as ringtone doesnt make it bad. Terry Riley is an innovator of music. One of the original ambient musicians and first western musicians to incorporate ideas from African, Asian and middle eastern music into his work, combining those ideas with western art and pop music as well as prog. Hes amazing. You guys sound like idiots. Also a pioneer of sample based musc and synthesizer based music. Is In C really that difficult or challenging for the normal person? Sure its taking on a lot of different ideas and complex musically? But to a pop music listener? Its pleasant pretty music. Its not scary, harsh, aggressive, abrasive, or anything. Believe me i prefer other music but i thought it was something that customers could enjoy as well... I played alice coltrane and pharoah sanders earlier in the day and a customer asked me to shut it off which is understandable because there is some atonal saxophone playing in it and arythmic yet complex and melodic improvisations going on. Maybe a bit harsh for pop fans. But In C? Its pretty and pleasant for the pleb brain, while engaging, thought provoking, conceptual, and existentially aware to the thinker....
James Reyes
what the hell is that top right cover
Nathaniel Nelson
I couldn't find a cover online since it's a release by some company that has long since gone out of business, the ensemble which recorded it, Dufay Consort, has also been disbanded. So I just picked some animu image and slapped words on it using inkscape.
Logan Cox
oh well good job friend
Alexander Ortiz
Might as well give an overview of the state of recording for Obrecht's masses in chronological order, the ones with (?) are attributed works >Early 1. Missa Petrus Apostolus 2. Missa Beata viscera [No recordings] 3. Missa O lumen ecclesie (O quam suavis) 4. Missa Sicut spina rosam >Transitional 5. Missa de Sancto Martino [No recordings] 6. Missa Sine nomine (?) [No recordings] 7. Missa de Sancto Donatiano 8. Missa Salve diva parens 9. Missa Adieu mes amours [No recordings] 10. Missa Ave regina celorum 11. Missa de Sancto Johanne Baptista (?) [No recordings] 12. Missa Gracioulx et biaulx (?) [No recordings] >Maturity 13. Missa Caput 14. Missa L'homme arme 15. Missa Plurimorum carminum I [No recordings] 16. Missa De tous biens playne 17. Missa Fors seulement 18. Missa Je ne seray plus (?) [No recordings] 19. Missa N'aray-je jamais (?) [No recordings] 20. Missa Plurimorum carmimum II [No recordings] 21. Missa Grecorum [No recordings] 22. Missa Pfauenschwanz 23. Missa Scaramella [No recordings] 24. Missa Je ne demande [No recordings] >Full Maturity 25. Missa Fortuna desperata 26. Missa Libenter gloriabor [No recordings] 27. Missa Malheur me bat 28. Missa Rose playsante >Post Maturity 29. Missa Maria zart 30. Missa Si dedero 31. Missa Cela sans plus >Special 32. Missa Sub tuum presidium
>frog poster >le meme entry level tchaikovsky fuck off
Julian Perez
No worse than Bach, really.
Jaxon Kelly
Not sure if right thread, but could you help me please? I play the piano, but I'm not very good at it. I'm trying to find some new pieces to play in order to improve my technique and sight-reading skills, but I don't really know where to find good pieces. Could you recommend me some? Preferrably romantic or modern era (kind of tired of baroque because I've played the harpsichord for several years), but I'm not ready for too much dissonance. If you could just post youtube links to your favourite pieces that are not too hard to play, that'd be great. The limit of my skill at this point is Chopins Nocturnes (op. 9).
Andrew Edwards
Le V For Vendetta meme xDDD
Jonathan Powell
Surely there's a few sonatas in the Essercizi that you can play through.
Oliver Lee
This one's a personal favourite, and I don't think it's too well known yet.
Zachary Brooks
I can, but I don't like baroque
Benjamin Anderson
Also, this doesn't seem like it'd improve my technique, I'm looking for some sort of challenge, a harder piece each time I finished the last one. I'll try it though, thanks!
Christian Fisher
scarlatti is technical as fuck bro
Benjamin Taylor
Is he underrated?
Nathaniel Lewis
Is this one of the founding fathers?
Owen Lewis
>15th century music
No thanks. Real music began with Bach, and real music ended with Bach.
Carson Allen
Nice meme
Adam James
Looks like my grandma
Logan Wood
anyone of you guys can share the album posted by OP?
Jacob Clark
What're some good recordings of Debussy's piano works?
Easton Bell
How did a listening public that adored Beethoven and turned out for his funeral en masse sit on Schubert for decades?
Henry Ward
t. Mozart
Dylan Foster
Schubert f a m ww@
Julian Wright
Francois is popular on Sup Forums.
Carson Watson
Michelangeli - Preludes Uchida - Etudes Fergus-Thompson - probably most consistent complete works
Owen Richardson
Because he died young and hadn't become a well known public figure unlike Beethoven.
Thomas Thomas
Aimard and Helffer are fine choices for assorted piano works in good sound but Fevrier and Ericourt are great historical accounts for reference
You can find Fevrier's complete Debussy set in the second Mega link, albeit in kind of dry sound
Matthew Garcia
The dark ages of music didn't really end until Monteverdi. Probably because musicians had less hellenic source material than philosophers, painters, dramatists, etc did.
By choosing to listen to that degenerate trash you are soiling your ears. That is nihilist music, lacking the spirit of the agon.
William Ortiz
Yeah but Gesualdo literally killed his cuckers.
Ian Morgan
xD
Adam Cooper
That may be true but true to his cuckold religion and music (christian music doesn't end until the baroque, the real "renaissance" of music"), he seems to feel guilt about those killings, many critics feel this is reflected in his music. So one must be cautious when one listens to even Gesualdo from this era.
It's really no surprise it took a man with literal depression (CLT) to make such self-effacing music popular here. True Christian music must have seemed perfect to him, the sounds of the knife turned inwards, total numbing of the unbearableness of things that are worldly.
Fuck off, pleb.
Josiah Rivera
You seem like an interesting guy, are you a musicologist/wanna be musicologist?
Aiden Bailey
Among the very best conductors, is Furtwangler rated because of the old recordings meme or despite of it?
Cooper Young
I'm still an unspecialised undergrad but I would be allowed to transfer into music from my own course if I wished. Do you only need to start at a young age for performance, or does that apply to musicology too?
Brody Brown
A bit of both
Gabriel Carter
Nah I don't think that applies to musicology considering it's just the study of music akin to the study of art history, history, philosophy, etc.
Angel Miller
Well that's good. Philosophy really does seem most important because it is the basis for all other subjects but I could minor in music if they'll have me. I'll email some people from the faculty.
Yeah, before I saw your reply I listened to it a couple times and realized that it was actually in English.
Angel Rodriguez
>americans
Justin Robinson
If I were a burger I would have obviously recognized my native language, I literally never listen to anglophone classical music so it hadn't occurred to me it could have been in English.
Jace Long
There's gotta be someone better than Uchida in the etudes.
I cant post the scans for this because they were over 10mb and I couldn't resize them without distorting them but this album also has liszt's legend 2 and hungarian rhapsodies 2 & 6
What youtube channels do you guys follow? I follow gullivior, pianopera, shellackophile, and truecrypt for historic memes, and aTonalHits for contemporary memes.
Eli Miller
TheWelleszCompany, Gerubach, Norman Perryman, artofcounterpoint (check his fugues based on popular tunes - pretty based), Wellesz Theater, among other non-classical channels
Julian Martin
Shhh no tears, only dreams now.
Ayden Collins
Checked
Sebastian Lopez
Lemmie know when you get some good stuff uploaded :))
Jacob Ortiz
What's the best place to start with classical music?
Pls no memes
Hudson Lopez
Bach, Mozart, Beethoven
Hunter White
Chopin or Beethoven.
Bach if you have autism.
Jack Thomas
If Bach is for the autistic, then Chopin is for the shallow. His lifes work was literally salon background music
Gabriel Myers
Poly shoo, don't you have to sleep early for work tomorrow?
Lincoln Foster
I agree
Chopin is pretty shit, a composer for one right hand
Chase Martin
>blunt and insensitive personality >let his wife rot in siberia and married a younger woman right after with no problem >has the blank aspie stare in almost every picture
Found out that another guy that studied Prokofiev's life also thinks he was a high functioning sperglord. Pretty interesting. Does Prokofiev's music make any of you think of autism?
Evan Morgan
Pretty much all composers are high functioning autists/spergs with the possible exception of Telemann and Haydn, user.
Leo Powell
Vivaldi's Four Seasons is a memetic and structurally simple work, so it's great for newfags. Beethoven's 14th piano sonata (Moonlight) is very emotional and the first movement is simple, so it's a great introduction as well.
Be careful with Bach, his music isn't particularly emotional. When you pick one of his works and don't get it, keep relistening and try several different interpretations.
Also, read about the works you're listening to. For program music (for example, Four Seasons), read the program. And it's really useful to know basic theory and terminology, to orient yourself in a work. Otherwise you can feel like the composer is just randomly throwing a bunch of melodies at you.
Can someone list all the sad/spooky Scarlatti pieces? Thanks.
Josiah Nelson
>a Wagner quote
Chopin would be laughing his ass off if you told him his music would still make bogbillies this mad in 2016.
There's an anecdote about a G*rman who attended a Chopin recital and started spazzing out afterwards because he didn't get his daily FFF mud dose. You are literally that guy.
Lincoln Clark
heard one chopin composition heard em all desu
Nicholas Perez
To me the "spookiness" of most Scarlatti piece comes from how unhinged he can get at times. This is one guy who just doesn't give a damn about rules or decorum. You have a piece which begins innocently enough like this: youtube.com/watch?v=uSj24ge6sew Then suddenly out of nowhere freaking cluster chords. If you were brought up on Bach and the likes this is the music that makes you nauseous. And did I mention it's addictive?
Kevin Sanders
>tfw scarlatti invented post-punk
Camden Wood
>mad Chopin's music is too inoffensive to make anyone mad.
We called Chopin shit. One can calmly call a composer shit without getting emotional. Chopin writes bel canto inspired arias for the right hand, but without any text to convey meaning. He writes decent homophonic tunes for piano, but thats about it.
If Chopin was alive I think he'd be full of regret that he didn't branch out beyond lite salon music.
Nathaniel Price
>If Chopin was alive I think he'd be full of regret that he didn't branch out beyond lite salon music >The orthodox view of Chopin as a miniaturist is now pretty much obsolete, exploded, discredited. Many of the large works—ballades, scherzi, sonatas, great polonaises, fantasies, barcarolle—are longer than an average movement of Beethoven. Chopin was, in fact, the only composer of his generation who never, after the age of twenty-one, wrote a long piece that was ineffective. Many of schumann’s larger works (although not, of course, the finest) have uninspired moments that raise problems for their interpreter of sustaining the interest. There are deserts with few oases in a number of works of Berlioz; and there are not many works of liszt that are completely exempt from some facile and even trashy pages. But the elegance, distinction, and efficacy of Chopin’s large forms are almost unique for the time in their success.
Colton Sanchez
also glenn gould's goldberg variations can suck a dick, a harpsichord is way better because it puts more emphasis on the tempo rubato instead of waxy dynamic changes
Alexander Cooper
>bel canto inspired arias for the right hand >homophonic >lite salon music >you dropped pic related
If you hate Chopin at least come up with your own arguments.
Hunter Brown
>also glenn gould's goldberg variations can suck a dick
He actually agreed with you.
Parker Gutierrez
Has /classical/ ever drafted the perfect music library? It seems easy to do if you avoid the "which performance" debacles. Viennese classicism is most essential and you'd branch either way from there, sticking to the big names.
