Dear reader...

Dear reader, we would like to take this opportunity to inform you on a regrettable subculture which has been forming on our beloved Sup Forums.

>WHAT IS THEIR NAME?

Poseurs.

>WHAT IS THEIR DEAL?

Poseurs are people who go out of their way to cultivate an image of being interesting, by and large through doing their best to cultivate a "sophisticated" music taste.
HOWEVER, as these people have no self-sufficiency of their own, or any knowledge or familiarity with music beyond the pop sphere presented on sites such as Pitchfork, the best they can do to cultivate that image is to go on RateYourMusic and sheepishly drone the top-rated albums of whatever niche genre they think will bring them the most "patrician" or "underground" or "sophisticated" credibility.

IF you were to question them on the merit an album they claim to be a favorite, they would not be able to provide any substantial opinion or judgment regarding it(only empty buzzwords which they regurgitate without ever giving any thought to what they mean or how they relate to that artist) as in reality they have none of the knowledge which would help them to properly evaluate it.
The vast majority of them don't know music theory or have any sort of education(whether through personal exploration or professional education) on music/art history and have no familiarity with the origins, backgrounds and histories of their "favorite" genres, albums and artists. Their education begins and ends with RYM pages and lists and Sup Forums chart thread images.

More effort goes into building up the perfect "patrician" RYM profile and curve using the perfect combination of albums and ratings than into actually trying to understand and genuinely appreciate what they are hearing.

This utter dilettantism and ignorance, however, does not prevent them from nurturing severe superiority complexes which serve as fuel for regular mockery, ridicule and debasement of the rest of this fine board's residents.

Other urls found in this thread:

rateyourmusic.com/~thedb
vocaroo.com/i/s0W5JV6ZizTj
vocaroo.com/i/s1pPCb9QXEgU
twitter.com/NSFWRedditGif

>WHY SHOULD I CARE?

Because poseurs make this board a more toxic and uninviting place.
Because they fuel tension and antagonism.
Because their use of music as an ego-building tool sets a bad example.
Because, ultimately, their mentalities regarding music, art and their fellow man are just no good.

>BUT WHAT DO POSEURS ACTUALLY (CLAIM TO) LISTEN TO?

Presented in the OP is a brief introduction to the wild world of poseurcore. It is not an attempt at making a statement regarding the quality of the music produced by those artists. It is not the only music which poseurs listen to. It's just a quick rundown. If you wish, you can also take note of this somewhat more expansive text list of poseurcore favorites.

Merzbow, Boredoms, Gerogerigegege, Coil, Throbbing Gristle, Whitehouse, Nurse with Wound, Einstürzende Neubauten, Brainbombs, Death in June, Current 93, La Monte Young, Moondog, Lou Harrison, Henry Cowell, Luigi Russolo, Popol Vuh, Fishmans, Jean Jacques Perrey, Les Rallizes Dénudés, Rainbow Caroliner, Taj Mahal Travellers, Zero Kama, Fushitsusha, Peter Brötzmann, John Cage, Scott Walker, Unwound, Dead, Frank Zappa, Morton Feldman, Captain Beefheart, Pharoah Sanders, Albert Ayler, Ornette Coleman, Alice Coltrane, Arnold Schoenberg, Pierre Boulez, György Ligeti, Karlheinz Stockhausen, Thinking Fellers Union Local 282. Raymond Scott, Delia Derbyshire, Daphne Oram, Terry Riley, Peter Sotos, Boyd Rice, Henry Flynt, Kazumoto Endo, David Tudor, Half Japanese,Secret Chiefs 3, Keiji Haino, Ramleh, Otomo Yoshihide, Basic Channel, John Zorn, Joe Meek, Faxed Head, Harry Partch, Wesley Willis, Fred Frith, The Residents, Sun Ra, Sun City Girls, Hans Krusi, Royal Trux, Jandek, Loren Mazzacane Connors, The Dead C, Comus, Cromagnon, Eliane Radigue, The Red Krayola, Opus Avantra, Pan.Thy.Monium., Murmuüre, Gong, cLOUDDEAD and Muslimgauze

If you don't reply to this post you will die in a fiery car crash tomorrow

>WHAT ABOUT GENRES?

Genres popular among poseurs include, among others: jazz and its variants, industrial music, noise and its variants, "world music" and its variants, non-dance-oriented electronic music and its variants, "smart pop" music, "experimental" music in general.

>CAN YOU SHOW ME A LIVING, SPECIFIC EXAMPLE OF A POSEUR?

Sure. Straight from RYM, here it is: rateyourmusic.com/~thedb

>IS THERE A SPECIFIC PLACE ON Sup Forums WHERE POSEURS CONGREGATE?

Yes. The hottest beds of poseur activity on Sup Forums are the /RYM/, /daily/ and Top 100 album chart general threads.
Take note of the mentalities with which music is approached in these threads and you are bound to find even more repulsive details than have been exposed in this thread.

Lesser quantities of poseurs can also be found in threads such as /noise/, the Last.fm threads and the 3x3 Last.fm collage threads. These are a more benign and inconsequential variety of poseur, but they are poseurs nonetheless.

>Wow, this is some pretty heavy shit to take in. WHAT SHOULD I DO? HOW CAN I HELP PUT A STOP TO THIS?

That, friend, is entirely up to you.

This has been an informative thread regarding the subject of POSEURCORE. Thank you for your attention,

- The Sup Forums Anti-Poseur Initiative

welp

i'm glad we all agree these albums are essential

s
age

his taste didn't really change that much. both sides are noisey and industrial.
looks like he just discovered more albums desu

post yr poseur charts
for real doe, so many of those albums have been floatin' around Sup Forums for years, none of this shit is new

Are YOU a poseur?

This is the most up to date poseurcore chart. Poseurs are people who pretend to like """obscure""" music for the sake of posturing - as in, attempting to gain an image of some sort of deep and educated insight that is above the average person. They will often shit on albums people genuinely love to help prove their authenticity, but when you lift the curtain, you shall see these people are authentic Top 40 lovers. They lack theory or music theory knowledge yet listen exclusively listen to music made for those who do. Typically, favorites include Oasis (this is the big one), Slowdive, Neutral Milk Hotel, Radiohead (perhaps the most egregious example, as they have no good releases), Fleet Foxes, and Wilco.

Even more pathetic, however, is the fact that they believe their taste is unique when they, in fact, copied it from the first page of RYM pages or Pitchfork's 9/10s.

These people often conglomerate in /skype/, sucking each others ego off until they actually think they are special for listening to some white guy play guitar and sing about how hard British life is.

Poseur favorites are typically psuedoexperimental edgelord stuff that most teenagers would cringe at like Neo-Psychedelia, Psychedelic Folk, Contemporary Folk, Chamber Folk, Indie Folk, Singer/Songwriter, Art Pop, Pop, Baroque Pop, Chamber Pop, Twee Pop, Britpop, Alternative Rock, Jangle Pop, Shoegaze, Dream Pop, Country Rock, Alt-Country, Heartland Rock, Progressive Rock, and Symphonic Prog.

While there is nothing wrong with any of these poseurcore albums inherently, if you see yourself liking most of these, consider this: you are probably a poseur. Shame on you.

Dear reader, we would like to take this opportunity to inform you on a regrettable subculture which has been forming on our beloved Sup Forums.

>WHAT IS THEIR NAME?

Poseurs.

>WHAT IS THEIR DEAL?

Poseurs are people who go out of their way to cultivate an image of being interesting, by and large through doing their best to cultivate a "sophisticated" music taste.
HOWEVER, as these people have no self-sufficiency of their own, or any knowledge or familiarity with music beyond the pop sphere presented on sites such as Pitchfork, the best they can do to cultivate that image is to go on RateYourMusic and sheepishly drone the top-rated albums of whatever niche genre they think will bring them the most "patrician" or "underground" or "sophisticated" credibility.

IF you were to question them on the merit an album they claim to be a favorite, they would not be able to provide any substantial opinion or judgment regarding it(only empty buzzwords which they regurgitate without ever giving any thought to what they mean or how they relate to that artist) as in reality they have none of the knowledge which would help them to properly evaluate it.
The vast majority of them don't know music theory or have any sort of education(whether through personal exploration or professional education) on music/art history and have no familiarity with the origins, backgrounds and histories of their "favorite" genres, albums and artists. Their education begins and ends with Pitchfork and Fantano reviews.

More effort goes into building up the perfect "patrician" RYM profile and curve using the perfect combination of albums and ratings than into actually trying to understand and genuinely appreciate what they are hearing.

This utter dilettantism and ignorance, however, does not prevent them from nurturing severe superiority complexes which serve as fuel for regular mockery, ridicule and debasement of the rest of this fine board's residents.

kek

whats the album in between pavement and oasis on the bottom? i feel like an idiot for not knowing.

>which has been forming
>just showing how new you are

>WHY SHOULD I CARE?

Because poseurs make this board a more toxic and uninviting place.
Because they fuel tension and antagonism.
Because their use of music as an ego-building tool sets a bad example.
Because, ultimately, their mentalities regarding music, art and their fellow man are just no good.

>BUT WHAT DO POSEURS ACTUALLY (CLAIM TO) LISTEN TO?

Presented in the OP is a brief introduction to the wild world of poseurcore. It is not an attempt at making a statement regarding the quality of the music produced by those artists. It is not the only music which poseurs listen to. It's just a quick rundown. If you wish, you can also take note of this somewhat more expansive text list of poseurcore favorites.

Oasis, Wilco, Slowdive, Belle and Sebastian, My Bloody Valentine, Tame Impala, Fleet Foxes, Sufjan Stevens, Deerhunter, Radiohead, Alvvays, R.E.M., The Beach Boys, Neil Young, Neutral Milk Hotel, The Olivia Tremor Control, Yes, Pink Floyd, Love, The Stooges, The Strokes, Coldplay, Julee Cruise, Swans, Brian Eno, Tim Hecker, Death Grips, Suede, U2, Candy Claws, Julia Holter, Electric Light Orchestra, and The Beatles

By the way friends, feel free to make further suggestions on artists deserving of being added to the poseurcore list!
Here at The Sup Forums Anti-Poseur Initiative offices we work hard to keep up with the latest developments in the world of poseurcore, but it is only to be expected for some artists to slip through the cracks.

Thank you.

back to plebbit you go

Also, can't forget about Montie's cringeworthy rants about resident patrician Unty.

vocaroo.com/i/s0W5JV6ZizTj
vocaroo.com/i/s1pPCb9QXEgU

Really folks, these are extremely hard to listen to. Just the combination of the poor audio quality, his naivety of the subject matter, and the absolute failure of an attempt to sound smart make these "voocaroos" (as he would say) the cringiest thing Sup Forums has ever produced.

Why, it's another Oasis album of course.

Abelian has openly admitted to only putting albums on his charts because he wanted to look "patrician".
I reckon that his first chart is as disingenuous as the second one.

i regret even asking. I'm glad I didn't know.
wew lad those vocaroos

seems like he's just a shit desu

>patrician
>unty

dude i aint a fan of montie but unty

did you see his meltdown last week

holy fucking shit dude

>moondog
why? I don't get it.

>you are the Donald Trump of musical taste
top kek
what a fucking idiot

>did you see his meltdown last week

archive link pls

that fucking vocaroo holy shit im dying

see

oh wait i thought u were talking about montie's rant

nah i was talking about unty dude, i love reading his meltdowns

damn...

holy fucking shit dude
prepare yourself

Great posts OP

wow sick reccs

thanks

>66355805
holy fucking shit dude

Quality post m8, glad you like those albums too!

this is better than /x/

im gonna read this with some popcorn you made my day sir

I'm a poseur ama

Same m8, wanna come to my house and listen to some Comus?

why are you a poseur

>DIANA DIANA PUT YOUR FEET UP
such a great album desu.
poseur albums > normie albums

>Helter Stupid
>poseur
That's a hilarious record, you don't to be avant teen to like it

all hope is gone

comus are garbage listen to good psychedelic folk like Simon Finn

because my taste is better than yours and I'm not afraid to flaunt it

>your taste

>better than mine

>>>>>>>>


whoa hey now i disagree

>taking the taste meme seriously

...

That's fine. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion even if they are wrong

what's ur top 5 post ("""art""") punk albums?

ur top 5 """""experimental""""" albums?

ur top 5 free jazz albums?

ur top 5 """"brootal"""" prog albums?

ur top 5 noise albums?

No self respecting poseur would listen to any music on this chart

whoa whoa

you are implying that my opinion is objectively wrong when I heartily disagree

antz is an underrated masterpiece of minimalist cinema. even the masters like kiarostami have nothing on katzenburg

Unknown Pleasures
The Queen Is Dead
Disintegration
Remain In Light
Turn On The Bright Lights

I'm such a poseur I just love post punk XD

I don't believe in genres but I'll answer your question

>post ("""art""") punk
הקליק - Crowded World
Grain [GRE] - Εδέμ
Lautmusik - Lost In The Tropics
Shadowplay [Mass] - The Camp of the Saints
Meltable Snaps It - Meltable Snaps It

>"""""experimental"""""
too vague

>free jazz
Ivo Perelman & Whit Dickey - Tenorhood
The Ganelin Trio - Jerusalem February Cantabile
Second Approach - Beeswing
Dugan Building Sessions - Dungan Building Sessions Volume 58 (The Dawn of Man)
Agustí Fernández 4uartet - Lonely Woman

>""""brootal"""" prog
Ruins - Improvisations
Anthurus d'archer - Fatalitas – Desperate Pinball
Tougsbozuka - Tousgbozuka
Sajjanu - Trauma13
The Hosemobile - Six Foot Hater

>noise
again too vague

I'm sorry, but you can't prove you disagree

...

>I don't believe in genres
what did he mean by this?

A collection of waves propagating through a medium at different amplitudes and frequencies over a period of time can be arranged in more or less infinite combinations. To say that a specific combination of this collection of waves can be categorized as a specific "genre" is absurd as there are no detectable boundaries between these combinations which allows then to be classified into a set grouping.

lmao

Is that "lmao I finally see why genres are a ridiculous concept and I greatly thank you for that" or "lmao I just got fucking told"

>A collection of waves propagating through a medium at different amplitudes and frequencies over a period of time can be arranged in more or less infinite combinations
truly irrelevant to this argument
it being infinite doesn't change anything
>To say that a specific combination of this collection of waves can be categorized as a specific "genre" is absurd as there are no detectable boundaries between these combinations which allows then to be classified into a set grouping.
the boundaries between these waves are the melodies, the rhythms, the timbres and textures which they provide differently

if you can seperate the noise of a sexophone and a guitar, you can seperate music with saxophones as saxophone music and music with guitars as guitar music

though if you are autistic enough to compose a retarded argument like this, i doubt you can even differentiate between the timbres of a saxophone and a guitar

Poseurs: Anyone who claims to like albums instead of individual songs.
Either that or you are a millennial.