No Avant-teens allowed edition. Hello friends and shitposting embryos, this is a thread for experimental music discussion. To clarify: Noise, drone, electroacoustic, free improvisation, futurism, indeterminacy, musique concrete, sound collage, and all that good stuff.
What have you been listening to? What have you been making? Movie and literature recommendations, concert experiences, gear, etc. are all welcome
>this is a thread for experimental music discussion >Movie and literature recommendations
i know that you're baiting but c'mon
Lucas Clark
Movie? Movie?! That's what hollywood makes dude. Movies sucks, i only watch films.
Nathan Wright
I listen to both without much though to the scene or identity around them
Benjamin Morales
Switch John Coltrane and Swans
Evan James
He's using the correct definition, embryo.
Andrew Roberts
>He's
you're revealed by the poster count OP, lmao pathetic fucking newfag
Joshua Baker
>grils >on le 4chinz
Evan Baker
"Someone has a different opinion then my retarded one, he must be a samefag!"
Parker Scott
Do you know how the poster count works
Jayden Reyes
>such a newfag that he doesn't even know about the thread poster counter and how it reveals newfags
sad!
Isaac Hernandez
Op here, there's 9 posters and 12 replies, I'm obviously not samefriending the whole thread up, but think that if you want it doesn't matter to me.
Hunter Gonzalez
>how it reveals samefags*
fixed
Jason Stewart
>Still at 9 replies.
Found the real samefag. Op is not the samefag, this random embryo is.
Angel Perez
>Implying Nico and Julius Mememan are any more esoteric than Death Grips or Swans
Sit down, you're embarrassing yourself. You are purposely proving what a brainless stereotype you are, for trying to make music into a competition of what can be more niche. Using "experimental" as a blanket term for entire genres is ridiculous in itself.
Do everybody on this board a favor, and stop posting. It's overwhelmingly obvious how new you are.
Ayden Ward
>two posts made at the exact moment the post cooldown ends
you really fucking suck at this lmao
you're such a lame retard, even your self-embarrassment is too beige and unremarkable to merit much attention i'm bored with you now. bye.
Michael Walker
>This avant-teen poseur getting assblasted this hard.
Ayden Jackson
Are you referring to yourself?
Carson Thomas
Bye for now, see you again in 5 minutes when you're done taking out the trash for mommy.
Aaron Fisher
>I know you are, but what am I!
Jeez, try to act at least slightly mature, I know it's hard to pretend but still.
David Cruz
Death grips
Justin Sanchez
What do you guys think of this?
Adrian Roberts
But you are the poseur here, correct? You are upset, correct? Again, when you're suggesting to act more mature, I think you're refering to yourself. No normal adult would behave like this, correct?
Brayden Clark
based on the Hungarian book?
Michael Rivera
All this butthurt over my posts.
Asher White
I think it's not music related, and you should leave with the other poseurs.
You are assuming this, obviously. You know nothing about me.
Elijah Martinez
I don't think I've ever heard anyone legitimately refer to MPP, TMS or The Seer as avant-garde.
Andrew Cox
"avant-adult"
Lucas Stewart
>referring to some avant-teen albums as avant-adult to save face I wonder who's dumber, the person who invented this damage control or the people falling for said damage control.
Nathaniel Sanders
Where do I go from here in free improv? Really liked the unsettling atmosphere of this
Joseph Martin
Death Grips
Samuel Barnes
Sure thing, buddy.
You must be new here.
Yes, it's the correct term, what seems to be the problem?
Tyler Ortiz
The thread starter is actually correct though and is correcting you all for using the terms improperly.
Bentley Edwards
If it's not art music it can't be experimental.
Daniel Mitchell
Most art music is not experimental, nice try.
Ian Wright
"I like art music! Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, the list goes on!"
Michael Hernandez
compared to popular music? of course it is. and almost everything listed in the OP is popular music, except maybe musique concrete but it depends on what kind. if you mean The Residents, Frank Zappa, Negativland, J Dilla, The Avalanches, then it's shit. however if you mean Stockhausen, Ianis Xenakis, and other composers like them it's good.
nice projecting. my favorite composers are Philip Glass and Stravinsky btw
Wyatt Peterson
Shoutout to the user who told me /experimental/ was better than /noise/, you're a liar.
Ian Gomez
For real this shit sucks.
Thomas Morgan
can u avant-fags rec me something similar to zs thank you
Liam Rogers
underrated post
Evan Cox
mediterrĂ¡neo is amazing senpai
Xavier Williams
Why do people like this exist
Adam Hill
There's no difference between /experimental/ and /noise/. The trajectories of both these threads are always identical.
Either it's
>thread is made >a bunch of entry level shit gets posted >thread dies with about a dozen posts made in it
or
>thread is made >thread accumulates a couple of hundred posts of nothing but shitposting and autistic arguments >thread dies
Grayson Thomas
Check out this obscure band called Swans, they're just what you are looking for.
Robert Davis
Okay, but that doesn't make avant adults any better than avant teens though. Both care more about muh experimentation than good music because they never have any real interaction with the real world forget actual living things.
Christian Rogers
You don't care about music either.
Carson James
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Robert Fisher
Maybe you could try to start improving it instead of whining like a bitch? But no, that would be too much effort, wouldn't it? Also /noise/ is pure shit. A bunch of no nothings that keep posting the same fucking albums over and over. At least on these threads there are occasionally albums discussed that nobody has discussed on Sup Forums before, when the shitposting is at a minimum anyway.
John Lewis
t. Butthurt faggot who knows nothing about music so relies on surface tier experimentation
Charles Perez
ITT: embryos
Julian Turner
t. butthurt embryo who only cares about image and not actual music.
Hunter Foster
it has pure poetry
Luke Ward
>Somebody actually using the Avant terms correctly
Never thought I would say this, but maybe Sup Forums can be saved.
Jayden Taylor
>accusing me of image while listening to avant garbage enough to make a thread on Sup Forums Did I even mention how pathetic avant musician fans look? No. Well I guess I just did now. But their lack of knowing what music really is makes them the truly worse of the worse.
Gavin Anderson
You really do only care about image, which is why you like a bunch of safe Sup Forumscore entry level crap to fit in with your "friends" here.
Isaac Richardson
Found the butthurt Death grips, Swans, or Anco (or all three) fan.
Nathan Torres
>implying that not liking avant garbage means only liking Sup Forumscore Holy shit, you guys are just as "intellectual" as the music you claim to like.
Thomas Thompson
...
Carter Nelson
Just because you like a few other groups that aren't Sup Forumscore in a pathetic attempt to look open minded doesn't make you any less of a drone.
Adam Campbell
how the fuck is nico avant adult
Henry Hernandez
>try to improve instead of bitch I'm working on that in /noise/, tyvm >a bunch of no nothings posting the same albums over & over Haha maybe if you tried improving the general instead of bitching :)
There are times when threads are bad, but if you get at least a good thread occasionally, it makes the general worth it. You already realize that with /exp/ but somehow are blind to that with /noise/ because you're bitter over easily ignorable bullshit.
Elijah Wright
>Haha maybe if you tried improving the general instead of bitching :)
I do, but my posts are ignored by the drones that only care about the same few noise artists/ albums. I still try, though it's pretty pointless.
Cooper Fisher
Lmfao at all the angry Swans, Dg, and Anco fans in this thread, you losers sure get offended when your Sup Forums image is insulted by a person with superior intellect.
Gavin Rogers
Then don't engage with them. I don't. You do you.
This is Sup Forums, this is Sup Forums, & nothing here is worth getting bitter over to the point where you constantly regurgitate your complaints. I acknowledge that you're right, that /noise/ has tons of problems, but the problems have been here since the start. Why is it now that you (& others) are so suddenly angry about it that its worth posting your grievances at every opportunity? I'm sincerely curious. I know you were a devoted poster & I want this heart to heart.
Lincoln Parker
>implying you even know the proportion of the albums Shit this ain't even a real argument. I guess one does have to make bullshit assumptions to enjoy such terrible excuses for music.
Hudson Wright
>implying you even know the proportion of the albums that aren't Sup Forumscore
Not sure who you are trying to fool.
Logan Lewis
Nobody, I am not the one in denial here.
Caleb Carter
I don't' care that much, but it would be nice if there was a thread to discuss such music without all the trolls and people that post the same few artists/ albums over and over.
Camden Miller
That's exactly what a person in denial would say.
Joshua Gomez
Even more assumptions. That's all you can do, huh? I feel like a God trying to communicate to the dumbest ants with how stupid your mental gymnastics are.
Christopher Allen
I was listening to desu tho senpai by Lil "Yung" Jizza, you probably never heard of him :p
Nathan Brooks
if you still think there's hope for /noise/ you're pretty dumb desu that general is beyond saving
Caleb Long
>with how stupid your mental gymnastics are
Not sure why you are referring to yourself in third person, but whatever floats your Swans.
Hudson Jenkins
Glad somebody figured out a way to inject some vitality into these threads: shitposting
Leo Wood
Came here to say this. Those posers are getting BTFO hard in this thread, it's amusing to read.
Jaxon Torres
I agree, which is why I only engage the posters who have a clue. Thats the only reason I still stick around. Its been worse when BRR was around, imo. People fall for the same shitposts if it has a new face.
Tyler Lewis
Xernon keeps holding onto /noise/ as if being on the ground floor of that general was his only achievement in life.
William Martin
>implying a single person on this board has ever called MMP "avant" unironically
Lincoln Perez
You must be new here.
Isaiah Gonzalez
genuinely you're all retarded 4 people posted actual attempts at conversations you're all so hung up on the "avant" label it's pathetic
Andrew Clark
I've said it before and I'll say it again: attempting to discuss "experimental" or avantgarde music in a place like Sup Forums is a terrible fucking idea.
Matthew Jenkins
I put a lot of love into this place, its no fun to watch it crash & burn. Its not about achievements, user.
Gavin Price
I don't care what kind of "avant" label you guys wanna slap on this, i just want something noisey and colorful like it.
please Sup Forums. i love you guys.
Jacob Wright
Is this poseurcore or sub-poseurcore? I know that it's all the rave with poseurs and mallgoths on this board.
Robert Lopez
DAMNIT
Anthony Evans
>mallgoth
People here don't like bands like Slipknot, HIM, or Korn, though.
William Scott
Found the butt blasted Death Grips fan.
Carson Bell
Your newfagness is showing.
Jace Morris
Hey guys, wondering if you could recommend me some drone/noise/etc... bands. I don't know many of the genres, I enjoy Sunn O)) and Boris. I'm looking for some somber, darker, noisier but still relaxing kinda music and I thought drone and noise would be the best genres to that.
Christian Gray
Try some Death Grips.
Liam Price
Hey avant garde fans Any Harry Partch nuts in here? Thoughts on micro tonality?
Juan Bennett
Can't seem to enjoy Death Grips, I've given them a try a couple of times, but I dunno, didn't liked them that much. Either way, their sound is anything like what I'm looking for, it's not exactly relaxing.
Angel Long
micro tonality seems really interesting, but often I can't help hearing it just as a regular piece but with notes played slightly out of tune, rather than carving new tonal relations into my mind.
Andrew Brooks
That's unfortunate. Have you ever heard Death Grips though?