I believe that /mu tends to ignore the broader spectrum of music, generally blocking out tastes outside of the general /mu consensus, under the almost rhetoric assumption that you all are the ones who are superior. Now, let's put /mu in the spectrum. Imagine a scale. The far right being Top 40 pop listeners; for example, millennials with no musical culture at all, listening to whatever generic pop is on the radio. On the far left, people who are very cultured and conscious of what they are listening to, and are many times elitists within their specific genre, have decent knowledge of important works in other genres, etc. Now let's not use the average stat, but instead use the median, since there are a disgusting amount of people on the right, and saying you should conform to the average is normie bullshit, I think we can all agree. Like any statistics on such a scale, you'd see a bunch of dots on both sides, people. Some closer to the middle, some further towards the ends of the scale. But, then there are the outliers, the extremes. The 1%(if even that) on both ends that is literally considered irrelevant in terms of all the data, because it is so far outside the normal scale that it will fuck the data. This is where /mu stands. Far left on this scale. I can hardly fathom what the outlier is on the right, the top 40 side. Most likely people that only follow the popular musical trends, the type of shit where they wear t-shirts of people they don't even really listen to (think nirvana shirt poser fags I suppose). That's not important though. Mu/ shits not only on people who are on the far right, but also, since they are so far on the left side of the spectrum, even shit on people who are in the median. For perspective, the median would be moderates of the two sides. So I guess someone who occasionally accepts popular music without irrational bias, but also has a lot of culture and musical ethics that they stick to when listening.
Putting mu/ in perspective
(cont.)
Let's say John is in the median. He enjoys a lot of alt rock bands and pop punk bands from the 90's, and so is decently versed in alt rock and hardcore punk culture. He's also a general rock listener, so classics like The Who, The Kinks, Rolling Stones, Queen, David Bowie, and other important works in rock are important. He's branched out some into pop, rap, and metal, and enjoys classics in those genres. Despite his general disdain for top 40 listeners, some of his tastes will occasionally seep into that mainstream. Examples of these, for John, would be Panic at the Disco or Twenty One Pilots. Now mu/, you shit on John (and don't tell me that's not true because mu/ would shit all over John) because of his median taste, and shit on listeners of the far pop right, and generally consider both to be irrelevant. Well who are you then? How the hell are you, the elitist 1%, more relevant in opinion than the top 40 fags? It's like Fascism and Communism. I live in a Democracy, and so both far aides are autistic and irrelevant. How is this any different? You are the same thing. Mu/ is autistic and irrelevant in a broad spectrum, and that is fact. Perspective is what mu/ lacks. You can stay in your little box that is this board, and be a basket case and block out the world while nodding in agreement to the other grey blobs that are mu/tants, but when you put it into perspective, mu/ is autistic and irrelevant, completely.
I dont like tmr either xp
i think you are overestimating the degree of obscurity in Sup Forums's taste
memes
It's not about obscurity, it's about belief in the superiority of their own taste, despite being just as autistic as the other side of the spectrum.
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I don't think anyone would try to claim Sup Forums is not autistic
Sounds like you don't like memes, trolling, and general fuckery. Reddit has the answers for you son.
came here to post this
Le epik trollering XDDD le 4chin meme mask man
kill yourself
First day on the chan?
You're just mad we don't like the music you like and you're finding a creative way to say it.
Hating Sup Forums because we shat on your tastes and getting over it is part of Sup Forums.
I was trying to get into Foo Fighters when I joined Sup Forums and as much as I hate this place, i'm thankful they saved me from that waste of time.
(Everlong and Rope are pretty good though)
You'd be surprised. The general consensus here is because people take mu/ serious
You're right, but there are people that legitimately believe this shit. I don't mind the memes, but I'm here for actual music discussion.
>triggered
hey what's your guys' favorite flavor of ice cream
mint chocolate chip
stick to making threads about green day you stupid faggot
The thing is, mu/ can push you in the right direction. But there is so much toxicity here. If I put anything that says I like blink-182 or a Twenty One Pilots, the response will always be that I'm a retard and shouldn't listen to them. I've liked them and legitimately listened to them for years, and have the culture and knowledge to make my own decisions. For example, Foo Fighters discography never looked like it was worth it to me. It wasn't because some basement dwellers said so.
true
literally the only good post on Sup Forums
To be far I don't shit on my friends for having top 40 music taste, because that is there choice. I can't make there lives different, but I still like them.
>The general consensus here is because people take mu/ serious
someone who wasn't some narcissistic summer tourist would never write that
>I like blink-182 or a Twenty One Pilots
you like pleb shit and got trashed for it, instead of shrugging it off like everyone else does (since everyone gets their tastes bashed on the reg, regardless of patrician it is or whatever) you take it to heart and write a fucking essay on the societal inner workings of a shitty message board you are completely oblivious to, where do you get the gall to voice an opinion if you are ill-equipped to state it
patrician tastes
I like pleb shit because some basement dwellers that represent a potential one percent of everyone says so? The point is, I'm not gonna stop listening to shit I like because of this collective faggotry. I still listen to both of them. The point is, nobody cares what you have to say.
>nobody cares what you have to say.
for someone who claims not to care you sure make a lot of threads defending your right to have a pleb taste
the sentiment is right though, you shouldn't care, but you are too much of a bruised self important faggot to let it go
cookies n cream
only correct answer
>for someone who claims not to care you sure make a lot of threads defending your right to have a pleb taste
This.
It's obvious exactly what you are doing dude. Come back when your own "i'm smart' complex dies down.
Oh yeah? Name 5 albums
The point I was trying to make was I was going to listen to Foo Fighters because "they're popular and like nirvana and I have no idea what to listen to" which is how about 50% of Foo Fighter Fans listen to them.
>mu/ instead of Sup Forums
literally triggered
stop this now
That's the thing though nobody should care, ever. You think a good social gathering topic is how only plebs listen to blink and 21P? Like, get real dude.
Anyone that takes this board seriously really needs self reflection.
I come on here for the funny memes and occasionally see if there's a really influential album that's out n about.
That's all I'm saying. If you want serious discussion go to /sci/ or /his/
>You think a good social gathering topic is how only plebs listen to blink and 21P?
no but then again if a very uninteresting topic is spearheaded by a retard it's still worth checking out to laugh at them
>both far sides are autistic and irrelevant
finally someone said it, glad you took your time of the day to propose this
If you enter convos to belittle people, you're just a prick and need to reevaluate your life dude.
tl;dr
Nigga just make a pop music thread. Plenty of people post in those and they're usually calm except for that one guy who tries to make a scene because he has nothing better to do with his time.
>wah please dont cyberbully me
i browse this board for my amusement, if someone comes along that makes a spectacle of themselves i owe it to myself to derive pleasure from it
>owe it to myself
lmfaoohmyfucking god this, guys, this here, and make no mistake, this right here is a dumbass shitcunt
Makes sense to me user
Hi fantano
if you want to visit Sup Forums during the summer vacation to get angry at people for not validating your pleb tastes that's your prerogative user, i dunno why you are mad at me for
10/10
sentimental much?
sentimental about what user
>mfw this whole thread was a triggered twenty one pilots fan
People only hate them here because mu/ memes the shit out of them. Be your own person.
Who fucking cares honestly. This entire board is under thick layers of irony.
no, i hate them because of their """""alternative""""" attitude towards pop music. they make nothing groundbreaking or interesting, but act like they created the mona lisa, and the fans eat it up.
i wont even get started on the fans
This
I swear normies hate it but how? That's an everyone pleaser t b h
>mu/
It's Sup Forums, why do you keep omitting a slash and triggering my autism you stupid fuck.
That's okay. And their fan base is absolutely fucking toxic, they are waaaay overrated. Just seems like Sup Forums is making everyone afraid to like them.
This is true
Holy shit the fanbase is disgustingly redolent of pink floyd and metallica
The lyrics are literally 15 year old emo poetry, it's fucking disgusting
You are the one who lacks perspective you fucking moron.
Most Sup Forums listeners have median tastes - taste governed by big media outlets like Pitchfork and Stereogum or other third party sources like Fantano and so on.
Your whole paradigm is distorted. Listening to Twenty One Pilots and Panic! At The Disco puts you much further to the 'right' than you imagine.
Real far lefties don't bat an eye at a majority of the things that median Sup Forums talks about. There are whole disciplines devoted to the study of music, whereas I assume most people on Sup Forums treat music as a hobby (and there's nothing wrong with that).
If you don't even think about musical form, about songwriting, instrumentation, technique - if you aren't properly analytic about music, then you might be compelled to think Twenty One Pilots are alright. I assure you you are wrong.
If they're that influenced/triggered by other's opinions, that's their problem. Sup Forums can talk about Twenty One Pilots and their fans however they want to.
Bullshit. Nobody is more left than Sup Forums. This is the worst cesspool of collective autism either of us will ever see.
>Just seems like Sup Forums is making everyone afraid to like them.
yeah guys did you hear about the hivemind collectively entity known as Sup Forums? the residential boogeyman that stalks people with vapid tastes in their sleep and make them change their taste in music in lieu of being made fun of by the snobby musical elitists???
>Nobody is more left than Sup Forums.
Wait till someone informs this idiot that RYM exists.
If the spectrum measures interaction/engagement with music (which it seems to from my perspective) then you're either trolling or really fucking stupid
Faggot, if you didn't have fucking pitchfork and cal cuchesta, rym is the very next place Sup Forums would run to.
If it was about commercialism or obscurity or anything else that would be retarded. It's more so about conforming to either side. To be so far on either side, you'd have to actively conform.
This is obviously only in the context of Sup Forums. And you're proving my point, that none of these opinions that you all agree on even matter outside this board.
RYM is already a place Sup Forums runs to newfag. A link to it is literally in the sticky. Anyways, that user is right. By your spectrum and framework, Sup Forums is in the median. The board adventures outside pleb shit, but the engagement isn't huge enough to call the majority of users anything more than hobbyists. You're just butthurt that Sup Forums doesn't like your shit taste. If you want to listen to generic teeny-bopper bands, that's your perogative. But don't write an essay about bogeymen when Sup Forums doesn't accept your taste with open arms, as is nearly inevitable on Sup Forums.
Everyone on Sup Forums already uses RYM, everybody already used RYM before Fantano even had a YT channel, the first people on Sup Forums migrated from RYM and decided to trip here, what are you even trying to suggest?
>And you're proving my point, that none of these opinions that you all agree on even matter outside this board.
It's funny, because the people you are trying to argue with have already stated themselves that their opinions don't even matter on this board, let alone outside it. The irony is that you are trying to substantiate your "point" whilst completely failing in upholding it.
I mean, why bother trying to make a point out of saying that you can have whatever taste you like, and that nobody is going to bring you down for it; and then proceed to get bothered by it when someones calls your taste shit, writing essays that have to be fitted into multiple posts because you are just THAT upset about it all, it's just fucking sad to look at.
Ok far left must be only listening to cavemen banging fucking rocks together then. Where can I find some community on the internet more leftist on this scale than Sup Forums then?
Ohhhh so first rym is waaaayyy more leftist than Sup Forums, yet a shit ton of rym users migrated here? You're basically telling me that Sup Forums is leftist on the scale right there. And if you all agree this shit doesn't matter to you, then why the fuck does everyone here argue till the end whenever somebody says some easy Sup Forums trigger?
> radiohead sucks
> swans suck
> death grips suck
>shitcunt
>Ohhhh so first rym is waaaayyy more leftist than Sup Forums, yet a shit ton of rym users migrated here? You're basically telling me that Sup Forums is leftist on the scale right there.
No, that's just you trying to twist words and use very out of touch logic to compensate for how poorly you've chosen your arguments. People don't come to Sup Forums to have critical dialogue on the state of music today, the people that managed to entertain that deluded possibility usually go away real quick since it's not feasible.
I mean look at Sup Forums and tell me what you see that coincides with your spectrum on the far left, good luck.
didn't you read? RYM
Mango
>he actually wants to get spoonfed
Sup Forums is definitely not on the far left side of this chart you're describing, OP. If you take the top 50 or so most talked about bands or artists on this site and use that to decide where Sup Forums is I would imagine they might be around the middle. Maybe a little bit to the right of middle.
It's an interesting idea though. It would be cool if someone were to make a last.fm plugin for this kind of thing. There's that obscurometer that might be similar I guess.
Fucking degenerates, half of rym is on Sup Forums, it's all the same bullshit.
>It's like Fascism and Communism
this is truly a terrible metaphor, and you're idiot.
>it's all the same bullshit.
no
Notice you said "on this site". If that's what I was talking about, then you'd be right. This site isn't the whole world, it's a small percentage of general shut ins.
Well I'm specifically talking about Sup Forums so yeah, you would use the most talked about bands and artists on Sup Forums to decide that. I'm not sure what you're trying to say with your post.
Your well thought out arguments have made me retract my opinion, and so thank you for enlightening me. Excuse me while I go buy all of Radiohead's discography.
Plisdain for Debs
I don't know. Why did you devote an entire thread to try and validate your shit taste?
When people with more rightwards tastes than Sup Forums come here, Sup Forums shits all over them as if Sup Forums has real world relevance.
you weren't even aware RYM existed 5 minutes ago until someone told you about it and you're already putting it into sentences and dismissing it as "being like Sup Forums" which is pretty ignorant (and retarded)
Dude I'm fucking TRIGGERED. You mean to tell me someone thinks I have shit taste? Well fuck, I better go change their minds so I'm allowed to listen to those bands!
I'm just saying where I think Sup Forums falls in the spectrum OP is talking about. He says it's on the far left while I think it would be more around the middle. So yeah, Sup Forums may shit on people on the far right, or even more right than Sup Forums but that doesn't mean Sup Forums is on the far left. Unless you design the spectrum where Sup Forums is on the far left, but that's leaving out a bunch of stuff I imagine.
Pistachio master race
this is good too
For a board thats so patrician, why are the largest, most varied umbrellas shit into singular generals while there are multiple threads about the lowest common denominator pop trash?
>trad - centuries of music from over 200 countries
>3 replies
>classical - hundreds of years of vastly varied music
>12 posters
>jazz - 100 years of the most varied popular music
>6 posters
>r&b/soul/funk - 75 years of groove
>never even happens
But its okay, you can always be sure there will be 3 Grimes threads and 40 Sup Forumscore album threads at any time
Sup Forums is the most autistic board is just come here cause sometimes I find some good new bands.
But there is always the same circlejerking on the same albums beucase people find themselves more intelectual if they are into something harder to understand
You just told me that was true though. I've never used rym because I'm not a fucking pleb.
>You just told me that was true though.
[citation needed]
>For a board thats so patrician
lol who told you that
Nobody is worse than Sup Forums. And like these fucking basket cases have informed me, the apparently more leftist RYM users are already in Sup Forums, so there really is nothing worse.
The whole point of this board is the discussion and discovery of music. You should be prepared to explain why you like an album/band when someone calls you out on it, especially when it's groups that are so collectively hated on here. If you can't handle that then don't make posts about them.
*sigh*
Hey look it's this post again.
>why are the largest, most varied umbrellas shit into singular generals
You kind of answered your question in your post. Why do threads with barely any posts or posters need multiple threads? If you can barely fill up your single generals what good would it do to have more threads up?
My interpretation of OP's spectrum isn't good vs bad but just the I guess "deepness" of the music they listen to. As in, how far from surface level it is.
>Fascism and Communism are on the opposite side of each other
>you can pin political ideologies on a 2d scale
>and so thank you for enlightening me
no problem
Yeah but nobody has a constructive conversation here, everyone just decides to be an ignorant prick whenever they decide they don't like something.
why would you listen to TOP when there's better bands that do the same and are not made for 12 year old emo girls
Yes you can, when excluding economics.
Ok like who? I listen to them, I like them.