Is music better than what it was in the past? (both mainstream and not so mainstream)

Is music better than what it was in the past? (both mainstream and not so mainstream)

No talent required. In the past, to make it big in the music industry, you needed singers and musicians with real talent. One of the worst example today is rap music where the performer(s) doesn't sing or play any instrument. Now, we also have auto-tuning where it lowers the bar for those who can't sing. In the past, to make a record, you needed at least some musical talent in your group but today, you don't. Granted, solo artists have been hiring back up musicians and singers for a long time but at least in the past, they had some actual talent. Back then, even the solo artist could sing, without auto-tuning, and many/most could also play an instrument, even tho they didn't always perform with it. In the end, if it takes no musical talent, can you really call it music?

If you go back by 40 years or so, you'll find that the popular music was at the heart, about love, friendship, and political issues. Sure there were a couple of drug songs, but not as many as today. And the ones that were about drugs, were very subtle as someone said above me. In addition to that, sex was rarely the basis of a song and if it was, it was always hinted and never straightforward.
If you go back by 30 years more, you hear popular music that talks about simple love, picket fences, happiness, travelling, and about music itself.

Today, the music industry is dominated by Pop (digitalised), Rap, and Indie. Aside from Indie music and some pop artists, the music industry now is also dominated African-Americans and it is in their songs that talk about sex the most.
I'm a pretty liberal guy, I'm just stating the facts. If you really look at it, its the truth. Since African-Americans are the most prevalent and arguably have the more lewd music in the industry, this makes a lot of artists feel the need to incorporate vulgar into their own music in order to be successful. Its a cycle really

There are so many styles of music, so many genres and sub genres now its dizzying! You can easily find things in the same mark as the "oldies" and there are much more talented musicians in terms of skill and proficiency now than ever.

I'm a classically trained Flutist, who also plays a little jazz. I can play essentially every woodwind, ukulele, a little of the orchestral strings, and I've taken operatic singing courses. My experience has exposed me to a lot of music (as you can imagine). If you go to any Conservatory now days, you will see how competitive music is as an industry. You don't have competitive industries without growth, even if its small.

I think many people get nostalgic and set in their ways. It closes them to new musical experiences. Many older people think negatively about hip hop, and its because everything before was so harmonic that its just... A brave new world! Maybe its a little scary, but it is good music. A few people disliking it doesn't make it bad! Especially if the artists are selling records. Proof is in the pudding.

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This is not mine. I'm merely posting this short debate and a couple of its responses to see what Sup Forums thinks of those points and questions.

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>If you go back by 40 years or so, you'll find that the popular music was at the heart, about love, friendship, and political issues. Sure there were a couple of drug songs, but not as many as today. And the ones that were about drugs, were very subtle as someone said above me. In addition to that, sex was rarely the basis of a song and if it was, it was always hinted and never straightforward.

Given that 40 years ago takes us to 1976...

>no music out in the 70s had drugs or sex mentioned in it

Derp de derp de derp.

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My fucking sides

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I mean, his copypaste would have worked better if this was 1995 and 40 years ago was 1955.

it's sad that im only the 4th ip to post in this thread

op you should be ashamed
saged

stop niggering, please

>Many older people think negatively about hip hop, and its because everything before was so harmonic that its just
I'm going to take the wager again that this is probably a copypaste from some ancient Usenet post because not only has hip-hop been around almost 40 years, but black music was always rhythm-driven and not melody-driven.

>op you should be ashamed

Kek'd. Just would've liked to see the opinions on this topic.

>literally arguing with yourself

>rhythm-driven and not melody-driven.
Blues and jazz aren't melody driven to you?

I think that's But holy shit OP is buttfuck retarded

Why do you say that?

Jazz only turned to being melodic after being co-opted by white people and turned into mindless noodling for fedoras to listen to while in its original form, it was a fast, thumping music you danced to.

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And then off yourself painfully

I could name about ten Aerosmith/Kiss/Rolling Stones/disco songs out around that time that would handily refute the idea that music 40 years ago had no naughty content in it.

>turned into mindless noodling for fedoras to listen to
That's wrong though. Many of the earliest jazz recordings from New Orleans showed a vast amount of improvisation. Jazz evolved from blues which is at its core, sad and improvisational.

Hell, even music from the late 60s had sexual content. See: The Velvet Underground

Or The Doors even with their cover of Gloria.

"Now you show me your thing,
Yeeeah.

Now why don't you wrap your lips around my cock baby
Wrap your legs around my neck,
Wrap your arms around my feet yeah,
Wrap your hair around my skin yeah,
Gonna eat ya honey
I'm gonna eat you baby, yeah
I'm gonna hurl, right, ok yey,
It's getting harder,
It's getting too darn fast, yah,
It's getting harder,
Come on love now let's get it on, woo
Too late, too late, too late, too late, too late, too late,
Can't stop woo!
Make me feel alright babe!"

>I'm a classically trained Flutist, who also plays a little jazz. I can play essentially every woodwind, ukulele, a little of the orchestral strings, and I've taken operatic singing courses. My experience has exposed me to a lot of music (as you can imagine). If you go to any Conservatory now days, you will see how competitive music is as an industry. You don't have competitive industries without growth, even if its small.

But of course no, it doesn't count, because "b-but y-y-y-you're pop faggot h-haha

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Even a band as staunch and upright as King Crimson have done songs about sex

"A flower lady's daughter
As sweet as holy water
Said: "I'm the school reporter
Please teach me", well I taught her.

Two fingered levi'd sister
Said, "Peace", I stopped I kissed her.
Said, "I'm a male resister",
I smiled and just unzipped her.

High diving chinese trender
Black hair and black suspender
Said, "Please me no surrender
Just love to feel your Fender"."

And let's not forget the song on the same exact album about cuckqueaning too.

Fuck off

That's why I'm convinced it's some old copypaste from 90s Usenet which means "the 1950s" when it says "40 years ago".

I guarantee you most blues music has sexual undertones. They're just not explicit about it because it wasn't appropriate in the culture of the time

this thread is like unadulterated schizophrenia

For sure. "Got my mojo working but it just won't work on you" 'Shake your money maker"

Black music was always raunchier than white music even in those days.

"Musical miscegenation is an old story in America, where shocked reports of white teenagers dancing to black fiddlers go back to the 1690's. But though black musicians were common enough in a certain class of bar, even the freemen among them remained strictly local celebrities."

What actually in the name of fuck is going on here.

I'm scared.

Where else do you think Scaruffi's infamous "lusty negro attitudes" quote came from?

"Beatles' "Aryan" music removed any trace of black music from rock and roll. It replaced syncopated African rhythm with linear Western melody, and lusty negro attitudes with cute white-kid smiles."

Very true.