/éire/

so were the 6 counties though
sources could be all unreliable and might've been used to justify plantations but who knows

>Many of the Gaelic Irish lived by "creaghting" (seasonal migration with their cattle) and, as a result, permanent habitations were uncommon.[16] The wars fought among Gaelic clans and between the Gaelic and English undoubtedly contributed to depopulation.[17] By 1600 (before the worst atrocities of the Nine Years War) Ulster's total adult population according to Perceval-Maxwell was only 25,000 to 40,000 people.[18]

>British sources
Lad are you for fucking real

Who /pintman/ here?

he seems pretty reputable, gives good reasons for why it would be depopulated and probably expresses and addresses concerns over the biases of the sources

haven't even read his book though, might order it

nothing wrong with thinking critically about Nationalism instead of just swallowing everything big Gerry says about a 32 county socialist republic

Well, they don't have to stay here. They can always fuck off back to Britain but that is our rightful clay.

>Antrim and Down can fuck off
>Belfast has a nationalist majority now

You whiny faggots always give out shite about Dublin being stuck up its own arse, yet you'll give away the one city on the island that has the potential to compete with it? LMAO-ing at your life decisions

How the fuck would we have a hierarchical system of Kings if we we're a migratory people? Ireland isn't even big enough to support a nomadic way of life
Not to mention it was originally forested, why would we cut down all the trees? To make way for hordes of deer? We had had agriculture for millennia
How would we have monasteries and brehon law unless we were a settled people?
Utter bollocks, clear British propaganda to justify their invasion and subsequent occupation

seasonal migration for pasturage isn't strictly nomadic in the Eurasian steppenigger sense though, it's just moving slowly from one field to another to let the herd graze
>We had had agriculture for millennia
yeah and we had pasturage along with it, at a greater level
Celts had Gods to cows/pasturage and cows feature heavily in our mythology for a reason
it's still a pretty big industry today


spose I was ignoring the Irish element of the North there, if Nationalism (or the brand of Nationalism in the North) becomes the majority sentiment it's fair play sure

>tfw too dumb to join the discussion

You weren't due here until 2017, Paddy-Angloman.

we're all talking out of our arses to some extent, I was just winding the nordie up and playing a bit of devil's advocate